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TD Goodliffe
Registered User
Join date: 31 Dec 2005
Posts: 13
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04-02-2006 12:24
Rarely ever see software released at 1.0 Actually there is a lot of really great software out there that is released (check out sourceforge) that isn't even v1.0  Just a few minutes ago I saw the newest version of Wine is out (see winehq.org). The version? 0.9.11 |
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Ketra Saarinen
Whitelock 'Yena-gal
Join date: 1 Feb 2006
Posts: 676
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04-02-2006 12:43
Actually there is a lot of really great software out there that is released (check out sourceforge) that isn't even v1.0 Just a few minutes ago I saw the newest version of Wine is out (see winehq.org). The version? 0.9.11 Exactly, though I do believe the discussion is about mass-market retail product. (i.e. selling to those who have even less understanding of version numbers) |
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ReserveBank Division
Senior Member
Join date: 16 Jan 2006
Posts: 1,408
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04-02-2006 20:34
reserve...nothing against you whatsoever but your penguin dood in your sig has me crackin up...your isp is aol and it says i own joo beotch? good one! *walks away laughin* Funny, but what you see in the Penguin's sign is your own ISP and IP Address. Hahahahah... Funny Madiera, I see you are an AOL Sucka... lol Go ahead, run a web search on your own IP address and you'll see it matches the sign... I gotcha ya... Logging every IP too, just in case I need it for devilish reasons.. _____________________
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Selene Gregoire
Eyes of the Wolf
Join date: 14 Sep 2005
Posts: 681
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04-02-2006 21:18
pfffft...
The only IP he can see is his own. Those things have been out for a long time and are free. He can't see anyone's info but his own.  |
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ReserveBank Division
Senior Member
Join date: 16 Jan 2006
Posts: 1,408
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04-02-2006 21:53
pfffft... The only IP he can see is his own. Those things have been out for a long time and are free. He can't see anyone's info but his own. Believe what you want Selene, but my logs tell me otherwise.. connect from mantle.snu.ac.kr (147.46.135.180) connect from static-67-62-136-26.dsl.cavtel.net (67.62.136.26) connect from static-67-62-136-26.dsl.cavtel.net (67.62.136.26) connect from 4533.whserv.de (80.190.192.162) connect from 4533.whserv.de (80.190.192.162) connect from 210.123.198.181 (210.123.198.181) connect from 210.123.198.181 (210.123.198.181) connect from 202.123.85.199 (202.123.85.199) connect from 69.90.123.51 (69.90.123.51) connect from 69.90.123.51 (69.90.123.51) connect from 202.123.85.199 (202.123.85.199) connect from 210.0.201.232 (210.0.201.232) connect from reenfriocr.com (200.91.96.110) connect from reenfriocr.com (200.91.96.110) connect from 203.172.175.116 (203.172.175.116) connect from esp-2.dsl.zianet.com (216.31.18.2) connect from 203.172.175.116 (203.172.175.116) connect from esp-2.dsl.zianet.com (216.31.18.2) connect from 219.239.107.134 (219.239.107.134) connect from 219.239.107.134 (219.239.107.134) connect from 69.44.14.15 (69.44.14.15) connect from uo82.internetdsl.tpnet.pl (80.55.144.82) connect from uo82.internetdsl.tpnet.pl (80.55.144.82) connect from 213.151.39.68 (213.151.39.6  connect from dsl-146-108-161.telkomadsl.co.za (165.146.108.161) connect from dsl-146-108-161.telkomadsl.co.za (165.146.108.161) connect from ipaddr-12-9-16-59.leiner.com (12.9.16.59) connect from ipaddr-12-9-16-59.leiner.com (12.9.16.59) connect from ipaddr-12-9-16-59.leiner.com (12.9.16.59) connect from adsl-69-208-29-243.dsl.akrnoh.ameritech.net (69.208.29.243) connect from adsl-69-208-29-243.dsl.akrnoh.ameritech.net (69.208.29.243) connect from 69.72.217.130 (69.72.217.130) connect from 69.72.217.130 (69.72.217.130) connect from 60.18.182.34 (60.18.182.34) connect from 207.38.19.104 (207.38.19.104) connect from 61.153.4.55 (61.153.4.55) connect from 61.153.4.55 (61.153.4.55) connect from ip-193-239-80-166.merinet.pl (193.239.80.166) connect from bulma.servidorpyme.propagation.net (66.221.171.137) connect from bulma.servidorpyme.propagation.net (66.221.171.137) connect from 218.248.33.225 (218.248.33.225) connect from 59.36.99.20 (59.36.99.20) connect from 59.36.99.20 (59.36.99.20) connect from 218.246.120.198 (218.246.120.19 connect from 218.246.120.198 (218.246.120.19 connect from 195.68.17.212 (195.68.17.212) connect from 202.8.86.150 (202.8.86.150) connect from 202.8.86.150 (202.8.86.150) connect from 195.68.17.212 (195.68.17.212) connect from 66.225.18.62 (66.225.18.62) connect from 62.254.183.162 (62.254.183.162) connect from 62.254.183.162 (62.254.183.162) connect from 62.254.183.162 (62.254.183.162) connect from 62.254.183.162 (62.254.183.162) connect from 62.254.183.162 (62.254.183.162) connect from 62.254.183.162 (62.254.183.162) connect from 66.225.18.62 (66.225.18.62) connect from LNeuilly-152-23-4-123.w193-252.abo.wanadoo.fr (193.252.7.123) connect from LNeuilly-152-23-4-123.w193-252.abo.wanadoo.fr (193.252.7.123) connect from blk-224-160-15.eastlink.ca (24.224.160.15) connect from blk-224-160-15.eastlink.ca (24.224.160.15) connect from 200.60.207.58 (200.60.207.5 connect from mail.clarocom.com (200.105.69.20) connect from blk-137-80-159.eastlink.ca (24.137.80.159) connect from blk-137-80-159.eastlink.ca (24.137.80.159) connect from 61.129.83.35 (61.129.83.35) connect from 202.103.69.69 (202.103.69.69) connect from 202.103.69.69 (202.103.69.69) connect from 60.195.248.29 (60.195.248.29) connect from 60.195.248.29 (60.195.248.29) connect from ik61023.ikexpress.com (213.246.61.23) connect from 61.178.20.170 (61.178.20.170) connect from 210.87.136.171 (210.87.136.171) connect from 210.87.136.171 (210.87.136.171) connect from 211.233.11.165 (211.233.11.165) connect from 211.233.11.165 (211.233.11.165) connect from mail.fbf.cc (65.68.62.82) connect from mail.fbf.cc (65.68.62.82) connect from 125.248.101.66 (125.248.101.66) connect from 125.248.101.66 (125.248.101.66) connect from 211.99.8.250 (211.99.8.250) connect from 211.99.8.250 (211.99.8.250) connect from adsl-71-138-154-220.dsl.pltn13.pacbell.net (71.138.154.220) connect from adsl-71-138-154-220.dsl.pltn13.pacbell.net (71.138.154.220) connect from 220.117.241.71 (220.117.241.71) connect from 220.117.241.71 (220.117.241.71) connect from 201.134.153.230 (201.134.153.230) connect from 218.93.205.141 (218.93.205.141) connect from 194.243.42.14 (194.243.42.14) connect from 194.243.42.14 (194.243.42.14) connect from 125.240.221.135 (125.240.221.135) connect from tehpwnz0r.centurytel.net (69.179.206.25) connect from 125.240.221.135 (125.240.221.135) connect from 221.143.22.24 (221.143.22.24) connect from 202.42.236.4 (202.42.236.4) connect from 202.42.236.4 (202.42.236.4) connect from 202.107.202.66 (202.107.202.66) connect from 221.143.22.24 (221.143.22.24) connect from 221.143.22.24 (221.143.22.24) connect from 218.71.137.69 (218.71.137.69) connect from spyder.appliedtheory.com (207.127.151.35) connect from spyder.appliedtheory.com (207.127.151.35) connect from 61-222-201-234.HINET-IP.hinet.net (61.222.201.234) connect from 218.108.1.180 (218.108.1.180) connect from 218.108.1.180 (218.108.1.180) connect from 61.178.20.170 (61.178.20.170) connect from 220.119.33.251 (220.119.33.251) connect from 219.234.95.9 (219.234.95.9) connect from 72.36.231.146 (72.36.231.146) connect from 219.234.95.9 (219.234.95.9) connect from 72.36.189.93 (72.36.189.93) connect from 67.69.162.68 (67.69.162.6 connect from 67.69.162.68 (67.69.162.6 connect from 202.107.202.66 (202.107.202.66) connect from 202.107.202.66 (202.107.202.66) connect from 61-222-8-50.HINET-IP.hinet.net (61.222.8.50) connect from 220.165.4.70 (220.165.4.70) connect from 61-222-8-50.HINET-IP.hinet.net (61.222.8.50) connect from nirvana.ncst.ernet.in (202.141.152.22) connect from 220.165.4.70 (220.165.4.70) connect from nirvana.ncst.ernet.in (202.141.152.22) connect from ool-4573cd36.dyn.optonline.net (69.115.205.54) connect from ool-4573cd36.dyn.optonline.net (69.115.205.54) connect from 210.51.37.117 (210.51.37.117) connect from 210.51.37.117 (210.51.37.117) connect from pd334c1.tokynt01.ap.so-net.ne.jp (220.211.52.193) connect from pd334c1.tokynt01.ap.so-net.ne.jp (220.211.52.193) connect from 201.134.153.230 (201.134.153.230) connect from 201.134.153.230 (201.134.153.230) connect from 61.185.217.214 (61.185.217.214) connect from 61.185.217.214 (61.185.217.214) connect from it-park.com (210.172.172.55) connect from it-park.com (210.172.172.55) connect from tabstravel.nznet.gen.nz (202.27.216.5 connect from tabstravel.nznet.gen.nz (202.27.216.5 connect from adsl-71-134-204-92.dsl.irvnca.pacbell.net (71.134.204.92) connect from adsl-71-134-204-92.dsl.irvnca.pacbell.net (71.134.204.92) connect from softbank221111049120.bbtec.net (221.111.49.120) connect from softbank221111049120.bbtec.net (221.111.49.120) connect from 69.19.225.155 (69.19.225.155) connect from 69.19.225.155 (69.19.225.155) _____________________
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Dmitri Polonsky
Registered User
Join date: 26 Aug 2005
Posts: 562
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04-02-2006 23:07
Believe what you want Selene, but my logs tell me otherwise.. connect from mantle.snu.ac.kr (147.46.135.180) connect from static-67-62-136-26.dsl.cavtel.net (67.62.136.26) connect from static-67-62-136-26.dsl.cavtel.net (67.62.136.26) connect from 4533.whserv.de (80.190.192.162) connect from 4533.whserv.de (80.190.192.162) connect from 210.123.198.181 (210.123.198.181) connect from 210.123.198.181 (210.123.198.181) connect from 202.123.85.199 (202.123.85.199) connect from 69.90.123.51 (69.90.123.51) connect from 69.90.123.51 (69.90.123.51) connect from 202.123.85.199 (202.123.85.199) connect from 210.0.201.232 (210.0.201.232) connect from reenfriocr.com (200.91.96.110) connect from reenfriocr.com (200.91.96.110) connect from 203.172.175.116 (203.172.175.116) connect from esp-2.dsl.zianet.com (216.31.18.2) connect from 203.172.175.116 (203.172.175.116) connect from esp-2.dsl.zianet.com (216.31.18.2) connect from 219.239.107.134 (219.239.107.134) connect from 219.239.107.134 (219.239.107.134) connect from 69.44.14.15 (69.44.14.15) connect from uo82.internetdsl.tpnet.pl (80.55.144.82) connect from uo82.internetdsl.tpnet.pl (80.55.144.82) connect from 213.151.39.68 (213.151.39.6 connect from dsl-146-108-161.telkomadsl.co.za (165.146.108.161) connect from dsl-146-108-161.telkomadsl.co.za (165.146.108.161) connect from ipaddr-12-9-16-59.leiner.com (12.9.16.59) connect from ipaddr-12-9-16-59.leiner.com (12.9.16.59) connect from ipaddr-12-9-16-59.leiner.com (12.9.16.59) connect from adsl-69-208-29-243.dsl.akrnoh.ameritech.net (69.208.29.243) connect from adsl-69-208-29-243.dsl.akrnoh.ameritech.net (69.208.29.243) connect from 69.72.217.130 (69.72.217.130) connect from 69.72.217.130 (69.72.217.130) connect from 60.18.182.34 (60.18.182.34) connect from 207.38.19.104 (207.38.19.104) connect from 61.153.4.55 (61.153.4.55) connect from 61.153.4.55 (61.153.4.55) connect from ip-193-239-80-166.merinet.pl (193.239.80.166) connect from bulma.servidorpyme.propagation.net (66.221.171.137) connect from bulma.servidorpyme.propagation.net (66.221.171.137) connect from 218.248.33.225 (218.248.33.225) connect from 59.36.99.20 (59.36.99.20) connect from 59.36.99.20 (59.36.99.20) connect from 218.246.120.198 (218.246.120.19 connect from 218.246.120.198 (218.246.120.19 connect from 195.68.17.212 (195.68.17.212) connect from 202.8.86.150 (202.8.86.150) connect from 202.8.86.150 (202.8.86.150) connect from 195.68.17.212 (195.68.17.212) connect from 66.225.18.62 (66.225.18.62) connect from 62.254.183.162 (62.254.183.162) connect from 62.254.183.162 (62.254.183.162) connect from 62.254.183.162 (62.254.183.162) connect from 62.254.183.162 (62.254.183.162) connect from 62.254.183.162 (62.254.183.162) connect from 62.254.183.162 (62.254.183.162) connect from 66.225.18.62 (66.225.18.62) connect from LNeuilly-152-23-4-123.w193-252.abo.wanadoo.fr (193.252.7.123) connect from LNeuilly-152-23-4-123.w193-252.abo.wanadoo.fr (193.252.7.123) connect from blk-224-160-15.eastlink.ca (24.224.160.15) connect from blk-224-160-15.eastlink.ca (24.224.160.15) connect from 200.60.207.58 (200.60.207.5 connect from mail.clarocom.com (200.105.69.20) connect from blk-137-80-159.eastlink.ca (24.137.80.159) connect from blk-137-80-159.eastlink.ca (24.137.80.159) connect from 61.129.83.35 (61.129.83.35) connect from 202.103.69.69 (202.103.69.69) connect from 202.103.69.69 (202.103.69.69) connect from 60.195.248.29 (60.195.248.29) connect from 60.195.248.29 (60.195.248.29) connect from ik61023.ikexpress.com (213.246.61.23) connect from 61.178.20.170 (61.178.20.170) connect from 210.87.136.171 (210.87.136.171) connect from 210.87.136.171 (210.87.136.171) connect from 211.233.11.165 (211.233.11.165) connect from 211.233.11.165 (211.233.11.165) connect from mail.fbf.cc (65.68.62.82) connect from mail.fbf.cc (65.68.62.82) connect from 125.248.101.66 (125.248.101.66) connect from 125.248.101.66 (125.248.101.66) connect from 211.99.8.250 (211.99.8.250) connect from 211.99.8.250 (211.99.8.250) connect from adsl-71-138-154-220.dsl.pltn13.pacbell.net (71.138.154.220) connect from adsl-71-138-154-220.dsl.pltn13.pacbell.net (71.138.154.220) connect from 220.117.241.71 (220.117.241.71) connect from 220.117.241.71 (220.117.241.71) connect from 201.134.153.230 (201.134.153.230) connect from 218.93.205.141 (218.93.205.141) connect from 194.243.42.14 (194.243.42.14) connect from 194.243.42.14 (194.243.42.14) connect from 125.240.221.135 (125.240.221.135) connect from tehpwnz0r.centurytel.net (69.179.206.25) connect from 125.240.221.135 (125.240.221.135) connect from 221.143.22.24 (221.143.22.24) connect from 202.42.236.4 (202.42.236.4) connect from 202.42.236.4 (202.42.236.4) connect from 202.107.202.66 (202.107.202.66) connect from 221.143.22.24 (221.143.22.24) connect from 221.143.22.24 (221.143.22.24) connect from 218.71.137.69 (218.71.137.69) connect from spyder.appliedtheory.com (207.127.151.35) connect from spyder.appliedtheory.com (207.127.151.35) connect from 61-222-201-234.HINET-IP.hinet.net (61.222.201.234) connect from 218.108.1.180 (218.108.1.180) connect from 218.108.1.180 (218.108.1.180) connect from 61.178.20.170 (61.178.20.170) connect from 220.119.33.251 (220.119.33.251) connect from 219.234.95.9 (219.234.95.9) connect from 72.36.231.146 (72.36.231.146) connect from 219.234.95.9 (219.234.95.9) connect from 72.36.189.93 (72.36.189.93) connect from 67.69.162.68 (67.69.162.6 connect from 67.69.162.68 (67.69.162.6 connect from 202.107.202.66 (202.107.202.66) connect from 202.107.202.66 (202.107.202.66) connect from 61-222-8-50.HINET-IP.hinet.net (61.222.8.50) connect from 220.165.4.70 (220.165.4.70) connect from 61-222-8-50.HINET-IP.hinet.net (61.222.8.50) connect from nirvana.ncst.ernet.in (202.141.152.22) connect from 220.165.4.70 (220.165.4.70) connect from nirvana.ncst.ernet.in (202.141.152.22) connect from ool-4573cd36.dyn.optonline.net (69.115.205.54) connect from ool-4573cd36.dyn.optonline.net (69.115.205.54) connect from 210.51.37.117 (210.51.37.117) connect from 210.51.37.117 (210.51.37.117) connect from pd334c1.tokynt01.ap.so-net.ne.jp (220.211.52.193) connect from pd334c1.tokynt01.ap.so-net.ne.jp (220.211.52.193) connect from 201.134.153.230 (201.134.153.230) connect from 201.134.153.230 (201.134.153.230) connect from 61.185.217.214 (61.185.217.214) connect from 61.185.217.214 (61.185.217.214) connect from it-park.com (210.172.172.55) connect from it-park.com (210.172.172.55) connect from tabstravel.nznet.gen.nz (202.27.216.5 connect from tabstravel.nznet.gen.nz (202.27.216.5 connect from adsl-71-134-204-92.dsl.irvnca.pacbell.net (71.134.204.92) connect from adsl-71-134-204-92.dsl.irvnca.pacbell.net (71.134.204.92) connect from softbank221111049120.bbtec.net (221.111.49.120) connect from softbank221111049120.bbtec.net (221.111.49.120) connect from 69.19.225.155 (69.19.225.155) connect from 69.19.225.155 (69.19.225.155) Did you get the permission of these users before 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Steve Steed
Premium account
Join date: 2 Sep 2004
Posts: 420
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04-03-2006 00:00
Posting logs of IP adresses is against TOS.
This is going to Linden Review for editing. _____________________
Second Life is based on the values of tolerance and free expression. Residents are asked to adhere to community standards that are based on the golden rule, but beyond those standards, there are few to no restrictions.
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ReserveBank Division
Senior Member
Join date: 16 Jan 2006
Posts: 1,408
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04-03-2006 04:44
Did you get the permission of these users before publicly posting info that can tell othrs thier ISP, geographical location etc in a public forum? I sure didn't and I don't plan too... I walk between the rain drops. The rules don't apply to me. _____________________
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Zapoteth Zaius
Is back
Join date: 14 Feb 2004
Posts: 5,634
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04-03-2006 07:00
I released one of my products at V1.1 because I thought I was done, found some bugs, updated it.
Don't think any of the poll options fit that, so I went for pie _____________________
I have the right to remain silent. Anything I say will be misquoted and used against me.
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Zapoteth Zaius
Is back
Join date: 14 Feb 2004
Posts: 5,634
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04-03-2006 07:14
I sure didn't and I don't plan too... I walk between the rain drops. The rules don't apply to me. As Steve said this thread is up for Linden Review, I won't close it given this is one post that needs review. Please refrain from posting any personal information about users. _____________________
I have the right to remain silent. Anything I say will be misquoted and used against me.
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Aaron Levy
Medicated Lately?
Join date: 3 Jun 2004
Posts: 2,147
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04-03-2006 07:22
Posting logs of IP adresses is against TOS. This is going to Linden Review for editing. Huh? Logs of IP addresses are against TOS now? Cause I just searched http://secondlife.com/corporate/tos.php like crazy and found NO reference to this new ResMod-created rule. _____________________
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Kyrah Abattoir
cruelty delight
Join date: 4 Jun 2004
Posts: 2,786
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04-03-2006 07:32
a come on it's just a kid playing with a php script -_-
who give a shit _____________________
 tired of XStreetSL? try those! apez http://tinyurl.com/yfm9d5b metalife http://tinyurl.com/yzm3yvw metaverse exchange http://tinyurl.com/yzh7j4a slapt http://tinyurl.com/yfqah9u |
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Euterpe Roo
The millionth monkey
Join date: 24 Jan 2005
Posts: 1,395
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04-03-2006 08:01
Huh? Logs of IP addresses are against TOS now? Cause I just searched http://secondlife.com/corporate/tos.php like crazy and found NO reference to this new ResMod-created rule. Let me suggest that the post in question lies very close to: Disclosure Residents are entitled to a reasonable level of privacy with regard to their Second Lives. Sharing personal information about a fellow Resident --including gender, religion, age, marital status, race, sexual preference, and real-world location beyond what is provided by the Resident in the First Life page of their Resident profile is a violation of that Resident's privacy. Remotely monitoring conversations, posting conversation logs, or sharing conversation logs without consent are all prohibited in Second Life and on the Second Life Forums _____________________
"Of course, you'd also have to mention . . . furries, Sith Lords, cyberpunks, glowing balls of gaseous neon fumes, and walking foodstuffs" --Cory Edo
“One man developed a romantic attachment to a tractor, even giving it a name and writing poetry in its honor." MSN "  next week: the .5m torus of "I ate a yummy sandwich and I'm sleepy now" " Desmond Shang |
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Marker Dinova
I eat yellow paperclips.
Join date: 13 Sep 2004
Posts: 608
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04-03-2006 08:05
Who needs manners when we have the truth? What's your problem?? GEES. Does your life so much depend on version numbers that you are willing to fight it out on a forum? #1: There is NO standard for version labelling. #2: If you would have seen V1 on the object you bought, would you not have bought it? _____________________
The difference between you and me = me - you.
The difference between me and you = you - me. add them up and we have 2The 2difference 2between 2me 2and 2you = 0 2(The difference between me and you) = 0 The difference between me and you = 0/2 The difference between me and you = 0 I never thought we were so similar  |
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ReserveBank Division
Senior Member
Join date: 16 Jan 2006
Posts: 1,408
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04-03-2006 09:30
As Steve said this thread is up for Linden Review, I won't close it given this is one post that needs review. Please refrain from posting any personal information about users. Wooooo You scare me... I told you, I walk between the rain drops. I am untouchable. _____________________
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Strife Onizuka
Moonchild
Join date: 3 Mar 2004
Posts: 5,887
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04-03-2006 11:37
I'm locking this thread and submitting for linden review, and recommending RBD for violations of the TOS under sections 5.1.iv, 5.1.v, 5.1.x and for CS Disclosure violations.
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Truth is a river that is always splitting up into arms that reunite. Islanded between the arms, the inhabitants argue for a lifetime as to which is the main river. - Cyril Connolly Without the political will to find common ground, the continual friction of tactic and counter tactic, only creates suspicion and hatred and vengeance, and perpetuates the cycle of violence. - James Nachtwey |
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Selene Gregoire
Eyes of the Wolf
Join date: 14 Sep 2005
Posts: 681
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04-03-2006 11:39
ooooooo.....
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Torley Linden
Enlightenment!
Join date: 15 Sep 2004
Posts: 16,530
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04-03-2006 13:53
The Community Standards apply to all Residents of Second Life. They obviously also apply to Lindens such as myself.
While I'm unable to personally confirm if the IPs posted are in fact Disclosure, this thread remains closed for the following reason: Flaming, Spamming, Trolling – Flaming (posting a message that is intended to incite anger or directly attack a person or persons), Spamming (multiple posts of the same topic or discussion), and Trolling (a post with an intentionally contrary opinion written with the intent of inciting or getting argumentative opinions) are strongly discouraged. If you think your post might be over-reactive, or that it might fall into one of these definitions, please reconsider posting. Please see the forum Guidelines for more info._____________________
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