A business idea with 1.6 coming: Real clothing stores

I was thinking, with this new click text thing that lets you link to a webpage...

Well, those of us who run constant e-bay auctions and what not, well why not "sell" some of your real life stuff in a Second Life store. That is put up a picture of what you're auctioning, and have a click link in the browser to the webpage that your selling it from, whether it be E-bay or whatever site you have. There'd be a certain loss of anonymity, since sites like e-bay demand details such as that, but that'd be up to the user.

Would make things interesting when it comes to how SL and RL is blending with the idea that L$ is worth $, so SL could be almost like a 2nd generation web browser.

hehe go shopping for fake clothes and buy some real clothes while you're at it.

Eh who knows, passing idea.

Yeah, cross selling RL products would be cool. Things that are SL friendly would be probably best.

Maybe someone could get a bulk discount on PhotoShop, Poser, etc and resell them in a SL virtual store.

Wow how very rl commercial of you. I'm buying an island just so I don't have to leave it.

i think this is a great idea/opportunity!

afterall, that is what Philip said he wanted SL to become... a place where you can perhaps even pay L$ for real life things. (his eg was a pizza delivery i think lol)

with the streaming video we can have a person walk onto a 16m piece of the land, watch the demo video of the item then go to the webpage to buy it.

I had a post deleted off the forums for advertising RL CD cases for sale for L$.

Oooh, Artemis, you so stole my idea; I'm telling... umm... my mom on you.

It's not your idea stupid face!

*gets a bat and starts running towards Malachi's location*



Pfft I don't see how RL commercial stuff can make things any worse, we've already got porn and morons so how about some shopping.

That post was deleted because that kind of post isn't allowed in the forums:



If you wanted to have a stack of CD cases on a table in SL that, when you clicked on them, would take you to a website with an eBay auction or paypal account...THAT would be cool.

Very neat ideas in this thread.

I can't wait to see people having little "virtual yard sales" on their plots of land, where every item is a RL yard sale item. I've always loved flipping through old albums, finding out of print books, bizarre coffee mugs and toys.

I'll remember that when I get my arse in gear to sort the tier out again.

If one wanted to sell snazzy t-shirt designs that they've made in-world, and move them onto a t-shirt shop out in the Real World, where could you go?

Cafepress.com only lets you have one shirt at a time, unless you pay them a monthly fee (boo).

Any other sites?

LF

Yes it would be kewl to see that Pathfinder but if LL is in the business of turning SL into a 3d web site (www.3d.com) as was talked about many moons ago in a town hall then I would think that you would no longer charge a subscription to your users. After all I don't pay a dime to click on a web site.

So SL is a commercial product I guess I am in the minority when I say that is too bad as it realy could of been a truely wonderful creative space for artists and sciptors. The only way that I can get away from the commercialism is to now buy myself a little island and never leave it not a problem I still have my dream. Its just too bad I can't move freely threw SL without having to deal with commercialism.

I thnk when your at the GDC or advertizing SL you should make it very clear what SL is realy. For the most part I think LL is advertisizing its self as a game. Its very clear after all this time and the trends that they keep pushing that that is no longer true. So how about a little truth in advertizing so the new ppl know that this is just another advertizing tool. Ok

Also I liked how you slipped that littel plug in for Ebay and Paypal. I was suprized you didn't say anshechung.com also.

You speak for the company as an employee. So much for ebay not affecting sl.

Cat

P.S: Pathfinders 1st life profile quote:
"Living on the East Coast. I've worked on developing online communities for 12 years, focusing on healthcare. My "big picture" goal is to help support the creativity of the SL community through better communication tools and processes. And I dig cats."

born: 3/15/05

How ironic. pfft

Welcome to Capitalism Catherine, everything like this is going to be business oriented, if it isnt then it won't stay afloat. Low-brow, low-tech programs can run for free but Second Life needs servers and lots of them.

SL as an world of creation, yes. Everything is created and sold regardless of it being bad or good or uncreative. SL as an advertising tool? No, not yet anyways. I have yet to see anyone advertise anything on SL that wasn't sold in SL. Maybe if there were McDonald's signs everywhere or even if eBay had signs up, but there's no such thing, everything is user built and so far not many corporations have taken interest into making SL an advertising platform.

SL isn't a game, it's a world. And yes, it has gotten less creative among the masses, but more creative among the minority. While most people in SL are content on never touching the building, scripting, animation, or tutorial options, there still remain that select few that do it all the time and are constantly finding ways to raise the bar. Back in the 1.0 days, you wouldn't see the quality builds you see now, granted you saw more OF them back then, but that was a time when SL was all creators.

Besides, this isn't about companies advertising, only reason Pathfinder mentioned eBay is because I mentioned it, and I mentioned it because it's a very common sellers market, especially since anyone can sell something without making any sort of step towards owning your own business. And I imagine Paypal was mentioned because it's a good and popular over the net person to person credit card program. They weren't intended as advertisements in the same way as telling a friend that "I love Coca-cola" (And I do.) wasn't intended as an advertisement, but just a truth.

I didn't intend for this whole thing to be a big socio-economical debate, but since you've turned it into one, I don't know who you're fooling when you think you can get away from commercialism anywhere, I don't like it myself, but I know it's a truth, something that needs to be in our society since unless we downgrade ourselves back to a tribal society, there's no way that we can do that basic "I trade my specialized skills for your specialized skills" way of economics. If you can find a place that's not a small tribal-esque society that doesnt survive on commercialism in the world, i'd be interested in hearing about it, even the communists are somewhat commercial.

Frankly, this is a rather pure and nice artists form of commercialism at the moment, since everything that's made has to be made by the person. There's not a whole lot of middleman stuff going on, after all, most stuff you buy you buy the items directly from the creator.

If you want to go buy an island to maroon yourself on, that's fine, but wouldnt it be easier and cheaper to just leave? You seem very bitter about Second Life anyways.

So, I click on a link to go buy real goods and turn over my real name and shipping address? No thanks.

No kidding.

What prevents somebody from URL-encoding a unique identifier before launching the site, emailing the unique ID and the Avie's name/key from the clicked prim, and having the external site match up the avie data with the RW information?

I don't think so.

-- jj

Nothing I guess, but that's why it'd be nice to use E-bay, since assumingly the owner of E-bay does not play SL and does not care about your Real life information enough to change the site for it.

I don't know what lsl changes will allow when it comes to SL/webpage interfacing. Since I don't know LSL period lol.

Wow you seem to realy know my most inner thoughts yet you and I have never talked in sl. So hogwash. I come to sl to be creative and to do the things I cannot do in rl. Yes I know all about rl advertisizing but sl isn't rl now is it. I dont subscribe to newspapers or magizines, I scan the bbc for my news and I watch public television for the most part. When a commercial comes on regular tv I go potty. You mean to tell me youi sit there flipping channels to see the next commerical. Yes lets get real about this.

What is or isn't cheaper for me is none of your business to be honest and if I wish to buy myself an island and get away from all the commercial bullshit I will do just that. Maybe I will do something very creative and fun, that would be a nice change from the bullshit event listings that i have been reading.

Now back to your post and buying rl services threw sl those posts above mine are correct about having to give out rl information. At some point in time the product will have to be shipped to the buyer.

I dont frequent these forums much anymore mostly because 99% of it is bullshit anyway. So where do you get the feeling that I am negative. I'm not in here I am in world talking to ppl and having a great time. So maybe if you want a commercial web site why not contact www.networksolutions.com and have them set you up an e commerce site. Why use a little game.

Hell I can talk till im blue in the face it wont mean a shits bit of difference to some ppl who are hell bent on this. Its 2 years later and I still dont see this "metaverse" .I still dont see 1 million ppl so ya got 25k subscribers big whoop I have had web sites that did much better than that in a month. All this commercial crap is gonna do is have ppl asking "so why am I paying to see your merchandise"

Now before you go off half cocked I thinik I should remind you about my stance on commercialism.

I love sl I love how I can lose myself in it.

If it was all just a dream then, what a beautiful dream it was.

I dont want to deal with rl commercialism. I play sl as a game just as many many many ppl ask the furries for one. As a matter of fact ask anyone who doesnt look like barbie or ken they are all playing in a virual world too.

SL creators making kewl builds, making vehicles, guns, clothes , hair, food. what ever MORE POWER TO THEM! I hope they get rich and can quit their day jobs. I support them not just with words but I have spent a fortune here.

I just do not want to hear one more rl radio advertizment or see a huge rl product billboard. I dont want to see rl mix with sl in a commercial venture.

I do not want to give some other player my real life cc, address, phone number or address period. Huge companies have securtiy problems and now your asking LL to take this on threw scrits we all know how flawed LSL is. They are way to small to be taking that liability on. If you read the forums at all you know what they will say "give out your personal information at your own risk, we will not assume any liablility in these matters" via a form letter.

You want me to get real and realize its here, I want you and others to get real and think about the ramifcations of those actions and the over all impact on SL, for a change.

Catheirne

Didn't ebay invest 8 million dollars into SL. Yes they did. I think if they wanted to know my rl information they could obtain it.

correctionThe fouder of ebay invested 8 million.
LL press release

Ack! Don't go there with her... trust me.


That's been attempted multiple times.

Hi Cat! Welcome Back! ::waves::

Cat.. it wasn't actually eBay. It was a venture capitalist who also has invested in eBay - but it wasn't eBay, itsself.

LOL waves back stinker hehe

Your right it wasn't Ebay it was the founder of ebay.

San Francisco, CA - October 28, 2004 – Linden Lab®, creator of the acclaimed 3D digital world, Second Life®, announced today it has closed a financing round of $8,000,000 led by Benchmark Capital and with participation from Omidyar Network, a new organization led by eBay founder, Pierre Omidyar. Existing investors including software pioneer Mitch Kapor also participated in the round.
LL press release

Trust me I hate this subject as much as eveyrone.

I think those ideas expressed by Pathfinder Linden will go over about as well as Sponsored Links" by Linden Lab via Ebay

Cat

Catherine verus capitalism. There is something epic about that.

It's a tension that I personally miss and I think SL is much poorer without it.

the slave labour factories in the LEDC's ... they'll make you all the t-shirts and love you long time

Why not.

Yeah. I didn't make this thread to get in an argument I made this thread just to throw out a random idea I had (And apparently Malachi had, before me... >_> and see if anyone could find any use for it.

I've said what I wanted to say and now i'm done.

I think this will open the most doors for $SL sellers who can put adverts in-game and link to paypal based auctions