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Mulch Ennui
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11-19-2005 20:43
I have heared about Private Entertainment some time ago, but never took closer look as it did not seem relevant for my business (nor my wiener). She is neither competitor nor have I been in need of any Private Entertainment in SL. I would also like to say that every time I dealt with Anshe, she was always polite, prompt and friendly. This week I did take closer look at Private Entertainment. And what I learned surprised me. Let me list some of what I learned and, please, if I am wrong correct me: 1. Private Entertainment is fully owned by Anshe Chung. 2. Only Anshe takes responsibility and guarantees a happy ending for clients. 3. Anshe has sofar collected about $5 for a "sucky sucky" (unconfirmed) 4. Anshe currently offers Private Entertainment from 19:00 - 24:00 CET, 10 am - 3 pm PST 5. We are unaware how many clients have heard ""As nasty as you want to be, papi."" 6. This money Anshe uses for "enhancements" 7. Her biggest investments are in "land" 8. Anshe tells people that she is a "busineswoman." 9. Almost all RL States in North America are not willing to allow certain types of "Private Entertainment." For this reason she is forced to sell land rather than offer a "hot towel." 10. We have no information whatsoever about revenue generated by any "client needs," nor what Anshe used the money for that she took from people 11. We have no information that Anshe ever made any profit with any serious scale "entertainment" in the past. 12. There is no health laws in SL regulating or controling "entertainers" 13. Money you deposit into Anshe you do not get back 14. There is no government securing you from a virus 15. Linden Lab explicitly stated that they will not step in if Anshe can't get the "Little Engine that Could" up the hill As you know I am one person who only needed 9,95 US$ investment to be successful in SL and to build one huge pink torpedo. If entertainment would just be as easy as "money makes happy ending" then I would never have received my chance. Others, with more money, would have been beaten off. Right now I have more than like L$300 L$ on my SL account. There is absolutely no private entertainment that I could conceivably think of, neither in SL or outside, that could generate private dances for that kind of chump change. I have talked to number of people I know: hookers, pimps, crackheads, strippers. I did "research" on the Web (and boy are my arms tired). So far I have come to one preliminary conclusion. Please note that this is simply one working thesis or what I currently consider the most probable explanation. However, it would be unethical if I would keep this to myself. I really do hope that Anshe or somebody else can proove this wrong. But currently the only explanation that I can possibly think of and what my porn star friends have pointed out to me is that Anshe is a "working girl". A "working girl" is one type of entertainment where you pay to play, and money is taken from the "john." It is like one price for a snowball or another for pyramid positions. New "johns" are lured with the promise of "a date". Early "johns" are happy that they got off, word of mouth spreads like herpes, more and more people join the "fun". Once the influx of new "johns" slows down or reverses, the "love you long time" crashes with one big bang (or with no banging, as the case may be). I, and almost all people I consulted on this, based on information we have about Anshe believe that Anshe is an "escort." I would be very happy if somebody could proof me wrong and provide some information that allow me to come to one different conclusion.
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Fox Diller
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11-19-2005 20:44
From: Mulch Ennui 5. We are unaware how many clients have heard "love you long time" ... 15. Linden Lab explicitly stated that they will not step in if Anshe can't get the "Little Engine that Could" up the hill.
I want to have and carry your babbies. SWEEET! .fox
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Jim Lumiere
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11-19-2005 21:10
ROFLMAOPIMP if you will pardon the expression
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Michael Seraph
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11-19-2005 21:52
Isn't this a personal attack? Where are the "kiddies who cry Linden" when anybody posts anything they take offense to? Where is the flood of posts crying for Linden intervention? Where are the links to the TOS webpages? Where oh where is the accusation that the thread creator is so powerful the Lindens won't intervene?
Not to mention, where's the originality? This has been done into the ground now. It was almost funny the first time, if you could get past the patronizing ridicule of Anshe's grasp of English as a second language.
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Nolan Nash
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11-19-2005 21:56
From: Michael Seraph Isn't this a personal attack? Where are the "kiddies who cry Linden" when anybody posts anything they take offense to? Where is the flood of posts crying for Linden intervention? Where are the links to the TOS webpages? Where oh where is the accusation that the thread creator is so powerful the Lindens won't intervene?
Not to mention, where's the originality? This has been done into the ground now. It was almost funny the first time, if you could get past the patronizing ridicule of Anshe's grasp of English as a second language. It's 10 PM on a Saturday night in SF. Give it time. And have a beer or some tea or something, you're springs are going to break soon if you keep on.
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Phoenix Psaltery
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11-19-2005 22:03
This is soooooooooo old. Grow up.
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Mulch Ennui
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11-19-2005 22:04
From: Michael Seraph if you could get past the patronizing ridicule of Anshe's grasp of English as a second language. actually, read my post that parodies Anshe's post, and reread hers, there is no editorial "patronizing ridicule," i just substituted some words and used as much as I could of the original syntax in other words, the ridicule had NOTHING to do with English as a second language
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Michael Seraph
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11-19-2005 22:09
From: Mulch Ennui actually, read my post that parodies Anshe's post, and reread hers, there is no editorial "patronizing ridicule," i just substituted some words and used as much as I could of the original syntax
in other words, the ridicule had NOTHING to do with English as a second language Take a chill pill Mulch. Reread what I wrote, slowly. From: Michael Seraph It was almost funny the first time, if you could get past the patronizing ridicule of Anshe's grasp of English as a second language. I was talking about the first time this was done, not your tedious imitation.
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Mulch Ennui
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11-19-2005 22:11
From: Michael Seraph Take a chill pill Mulch. Reread what I wrote, slowly.
I was talking about the first time this was done, not your tedious imitation. o goody, i would hate to have my tedious imitation subject to any "patronizing ridicule"
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KatanaBlade Anubis
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11-19-2005 22:13
this post needs to be removed. I am not saying it to defend Anshe business pratices, personally I believe that is her business, not mine. but I am COMPLETELY offended by your racial sterotype posting Mulch. Sucky Sucky 5 dollars and love you long time is a complete insult to Asian women. It is a racial and personal attack. Yes I am asian.
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Mulch Ennui
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11-19-2005 22:19
From: KatanaBlade Anubis this post needs to be removed. I am not saying it to defend Anshe business pratices, personally I believe that is her business, not mine. but I am COMPLETELY offended by your racial sterotype posting Mulch. Sucky Sucky 5 dollars and love you long time is a complete insult to Asian women. It is a racial and personal attack. Yes I am asian. now now, I included those as well known quotes of the "worlds oldest profession," nothing to do with racial stereotype, but , I can see how you could come to that conclusion I beleive a 2 live crew song was responsible for love you long time, and Sucky Sucky 5 dollars relates to Thailand "entertainers", not China, so I fail to see the connection (not to mention a southpark episode) however, since offending asians was certainly not my intention, I will happily and gladly substitute non offensive words if you will supply them
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Michael Seraph
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Off topic, sort of
11-19-2005 22:21
I just hit Mulch's website. I'm scared to say I loved it. Excellent take on current events in RL. Judging from that I don't think he meant anything racist in his first post on this thread. An unfortunate parody carried too far maybe.
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Rinji Kawabata
Registered User
Join date: 28 Sep 2005
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11-19-2005 22:22
From: Mulch Ennui I have heared about Private Entertainment some time ago, but never took closer look as it did not seem relevant for my business (nor my wiener). She is neither competitor nor have I been in need of any Private Entertainment in SL. I would also like to say that every time I dealt with Anshe, she was always polite, prompt and friendly. This week I did take closer look at Private Entertainment. And what I learned surprised me. Let me list some of what I learned and, please, if I am wrong correct me: 1. Private Entertainment is fully owned by Anshe Chung. 2. Only Anshe takes responsibility and guarantees a happy ending for clients. 3. Anshe has sofar collected about $5 for a "sucky sucky" (unconfirmed) 4. Anshe currently offers Private Entertainment from 19:00 - 24:00 CET, 10 am - 3 pm PST 5. We are unaware how many clients have heard "love you long time" 6. This money Anshe uses for "enhancements" 7. Her biggest investments are in "land" 8. Anshe tells people that she is a "busineswoman." 9. Almost all RL States in North America are not willing to allow certain types of "Private Entertainment." For this reason she is forced to sell land rather than offer a "hot towel." 10. We have no information whatsoever about revenue generated by any "client needs," nor what Anshe used the money for that she took from people 11. We have no information that Anshe ever made any profit with any serious scale "entertainment" in the past. 12. There is no health laws in SL regulating or controling "entertainers" 13. Money you deposit into Anshe you do not get back 14. There is no government securing you from a virus 15. Linden Lab explicitly stated that they will not step in if Anshe can't get the "Little Engine that Could" up the hill As you know I am one person who only needed 9,95 US$ investment to be successful in SL and to build one huge pink torpedo. If entertainment would just be as easy as "money makes happy ending" then I would never have received my chance. Others, with more money, would have been beaten off. Right now I have more than like L$300 L$ on my SL account. There is absolutely no private entertainment that I could conceivably think of, neither in SL or outside, that could generate love me long time for that kind of chump change. I have talked to number of people I know: hookers, pimps, strippers. I did "research" on the Web (and boy are my arms tired). So far I have come to one preliminary conclusion. Please note that this is simply one working thesis or what I currently consider the most probable explanation. However, it would be unethical if I would keep this to myself. I really do hope that Anshe or somebody else can proove this wrong. But currently the only explanation that I can possibly think of and what my porn star friends have pointed out to me is that Anshe is a "working girl". A "working girl" is one type of entertainment where you pay to play, and money is taken from the "john." It is like one price for a snowball or another for pyramid positions. New "johns" are lured with the promise of "sucky sucky 5 dollars". Early "johns" are happy that they got off, word of mouth spreads like herpes, more and more people join the "fun". Once the influx of new "johns" slows down or reverses, the "love you long time" crashes with one big bang (or with no banging, as the case may be). I, and almost all people I consulted on this, based on information we have about Anshe believe that Anshe is an "escort." I would be very happy if somebody could proof me wrong and provide some information that allow me to come to one different conclusion. I'm inclined to agree with KatanaBlade.
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KatanaBlade Anubis
House of Blade
Join date: 20 Jun 2004
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11-19-2005 22:23
From: Mulch Ennui now now, I included those as well known quotes of the "worlds oldest profession," nothing to do with racial stereotype, but , I can see how you could come to that conclusion I beleive a 2 live crew song was responsible for love you long time, and Sucky Sucky 5 dollars relates to Thailand "entertainers", not China, so I fail to see the connection (not to mention a southpark episode) however, since offending asians was certainly not my intention, I will happily and gladly substitute non offensive words if you will supply them Actually it all comes from the movie full metal jacket. which was a war movie. and I happen to be thai. There is no non offesive words you can find for the post you have started. Your attack is in vain and completely childish.
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Mulch Ennui
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11-19-2005 22:23
From: Michael Seraph I just hit Mulch's website. I'm scared to say I loved it. Excellent take on current events in RL. Judging from that I don't think he meant anything racist in his first post on this thread. An unfortunate parody carried to far maybe. ty for the compliment, and no, there was nothing racist intended, was based solely on the screen shot of Anshes interests in her profile, and as you and another have mentioned, inspired by similar parody threads. Mine wasn't even so much a politcal attack as much as a funny-ha-ha parody no offense to anyone intended (not even Anshe, she just made it too easy)
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Mulch Ennui
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11-19-2005 22:26
From: KatanaBlade Anubis Actually it all comes from the movie full metal jacket. which was a war movie. and I happen to be thai. There is no non offesive words you can find for the post you have started. Your attack is in vain and completely childish. you know, i do need to see that movie and it was not an attack, it was a parody. there is quite a difference. others have done a parody, but it was for political reasons (for lack of a better term), and can be viewed as counter attacks mine was just a joke, and yes, it was childish (can you say giant pink torpedo with a straight face?) Once again, no disrespect or racism intended at all everyone is just taking everything too seriously all of a sudden
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KatanaBlade Anubis
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11-19-2005 22:27
From: Mulch Ennui you know, i do need to see that movie and it was not an attack, it was a parody. there is quite a difference. others have done a parody, but it was for political reasons (for lack of a better term), and can be viewed as counter attacks mine was just a joke, and yes, it was childish (can you say giant pink torpedo with a straight face?) Once again, no disrespect or racism intended at all everyone is just taking everything too seriously all of a sudden I can take a good joke. I wasn't laughing though.
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Mulch Ennui
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11-19-2005 22:29
From: KatanaBlade Anubis I can take a good joke. I wasn't laughing though. well, honestly, that joke wasn't at the expense of a race, I am truly terribly sorry if you felt that way what kind of jokes do you like, perhaps I can make you laugh I'm willing to try
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Fox Diller
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11-19-2005 22:39
From: someone The scariest thing that one could hear is that there might be some right, or privilege that can make you immune from ever being offended.  .fox
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Gabe Lippmann
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11-19-2005 22:51
From: Mulch Ennui you know, i do need to see that movie I sincerely hope you are joking and have already seen the movie. If not, I'm personally attacking you for not having a sufficient enough grasp of American cinema. 
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Mulch Ennui
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11-19-2005 22:56
From: Gabe Lippmann I sincerely hope you are joking and have already seen the movie. If not, I'm personally attacking you for not having a sufficient enough grasp of American cinema.  I saw house party 3 man and breakin 2 (electric boogaloo), wtf do u want from me?
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Mulch Ennui
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11-19-2005 23:12
in an effort to not offend anyone (besides women and sex workers), I have altered the original post so that no one could confuse a parody piece on the lenience of LL policy relating to what one powerful resident can get away with, with any type of racism
i apologize for any insensititvity on my part, however I do beleive the parody is important enough to stand. If one resident can speculate on another residents business in open forums, we should all be able to do it (regardless of how invested we are in the platform)
i do apologize if my social commentary was percieved as any attack on any specific or general race or class of people. I hate explaining motivations behind a parody, so I will stop and hope that the reasons speak for themselves
peace
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Oyun Tuque
Milarepa Land Trust
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11-19-2005 23:19
From: Mulch Ennui [...]3. Anshe has sofar collected about $5 for a "sucky sucky" (unconfirmed) 4. Anshe currently offers Private Entertainment from 19:00 - 24:00 CET, 10 am - 3 pm PST 5. We are unaware how many clients have heard "love you long time" [....] 9. Almost all RL States in North America are not willing to allow certain types of "Private Entertainment." For this reason she is forced to sell land rather than offer a "hot towel." [...] It is like one price for a snowball or another for pyramid positions. New "johns" are lured with the promise of "sucky sucky 5 dollars". Early "johns" are happy that they got off, word of mouth spreads like herpes, more and more people join the "fun". Once the influx of new "johns" slows down or reverses, the "love you long time" crashes with one big bang (or with no banging, as the case may be).
I, and almost all people I consulted on this, based on information we have about Anshe believe that Anshe is an "escort."
I would be very happy if somebody could proof me wrong and provide some information that allow me to come to one different conclusion.
dude, it's evident that you have some race issues with Anshe. Either that or your critique of SL capitalism as one giant escort service doesn't quite make sense. But your motive seems clear enough to myself and other posters: demean a fellow SLer with stereotypes. If you have an issue with Anshe, best use facts like a responsible adult. Don't hide behind cheap shots. So what if Anshe kicks ass? Chinese mainlanders are changing world history in RL, and North Americans more often than not have their face stuffed into a bag of Doritos. This sort of attack -- old stereotypes from the 20th century -- does nothing except confirm this trend. I'm not Asian, but I've spent enough time there to know that someone like yourself would be treated with a heck of a lot more respect than what you offered Anshe. Either you understand this or you don't. Any decsion to make amends will have to be yours.
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Mulch Ennui
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11-19-2005 23:30
From: Oyun Tuque dude, it's evident that you have some race issues with Anshe. Either that or your critique of SL capitalism as one giant escort service doesn't quite make sense. But your motive seems clear enough to myself and other posters: demean a fellow SLer with stereotypes. If you have an issue with Anshe, best use facts like a responsible adult. Don't hide behind cheap shots.
So what if Anshe kicks ass? Chinese mainlanders are changing world history in RL, and North Americans more often than not have their face stuffed into a bag of Doritos. This sort of attack -- old stereotypes from the 20th century -- does nothing except confirm this trend.
I'm not Asian, but I've spent enough time there to know that someone like yourself would be treated with a heck of a lot more respect than what you offered Anshe. Either you understand this or you don't. Any decsion to make amends will have to be yours. did you look at the link i posted ? your response says otherwise (your critique of SL capitalism as one giant escort service doesn't quite make sense) this is not a race attack, nor an attack on the capitalism. it is a parody of an attack Anshe made based on facts she gathered from SL materials and her own opinions for whatever reason she did what she did look at the link, the photo of Anshes profile and maybe, just maybe, you will understand why that was chosen. it was not for racial reasons, ill give you that hint, but for a reason that her profile quite clearly illustrates (opinions based on facts gathered from SL materials) certainly you aren't saying i manipulated her profile? I could see why, because her profile has indeed been altered since this thread came out here, ill make it easy
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Sansarya Caligari
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11-19-2005 23:33
From: Oyun Tuque dude, it's evident that you have some race issues with Anshe. Either that or your critique of SL capitalism as one giant escort service doesn't quite make sense. But your motive seems clear enough to myself and other posters: demean a fellow SLer with stereotypes. If you have an issue with Anshe, best use facts like a responsible adult. Don't hide behind cheap shots. So what if Anshe kicks ass? Chinese mainlanders are changing world history in RL, and North Americans more often than not have their face stuffed into a bag of Doritos. This sort of attack -- old stereotypes from the 20th century -- does nothing except confirm this trend. I'm not Asian, but I've spent enough time there to know that someone like yourself would be treated with a heck of a lot more respect than what you offered Anshe. Either you understand this or you don't. Any decsion to make amends will have to be yours. Go here Oyun: /130/7e/71981/1.html Then hit the link in the first sentence in the first post in this thread.(which is re-posted above by Mulch) Mulch does not have issues with Asians, Mulch has issues with hypocrisy, abuse of power and money, and with the destruction of one resident's business by another businessperson in SL based on rumors. Point being, if the previous thread is allowed to carry on, then push the limits and see how far LL will let it go...
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