Second Life economic stats
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Paulismyname Bunin
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01-30-2006 09:32
I have started this thread to enable me to monitor 3 core economic Second Life Stats
They are
Members registered
Members online
Members spend (in real US dollars)
GMT Time of entry.
I do not guarantee to keep doing this but if I log on to the BBs I "may" add to it by a simple brief post.
The information is obtained from the Second Life main homepage; I have stored it here for my own interest. Other posters may add to it if they wish. The information is obtained directly from Second Life and the accuracy or relevance of the information depends on Second Life. Other posters should do their own research before acting on any stored information.
Finally if my posts are edited or moderated I may cease to add to this thread
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Paulismyname Bunin
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01-30-2006 09:34
29/01/2006 21:30 Gmt
128,968
4,727
$80,482
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Paulismyname Bunin
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01-30-2006 09:35
30/01/2006 17:20 Gmt
129,643
2,767
$47,288
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Iron Perth
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01-30-2006 12:55
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Schwanson Schlegel
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01-30-2006 13:03
Awww man. I liked it with the random times better. 
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Frank Lardner
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Thanks for excellent source
01-30-2006 16:15
That's a great data source ... notice the difference between the growth rates of the "population" that includes alts and dormant accounts and the upper limit of the simultaneously connected users. In 15 weeks, the latter grew from about 3,500 to 5,500, roughly 50%, while "population" roughly doubled. What I'd like to see is when/if a distinct concavity shows up in these linear tables and one needs to switch to a semi-logrithmic table to keep it manageable. What would also be very interesting is a "density" figure in which the pop/connected users figure was divided by the total acreage of virtual land in SL.
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Paulismyname Bunin
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01-31-2006 02:36
Thanks Iron, good data source....
130,255
1,828
$40,199
GMT 10:35 31/01/2006
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Paulismyname Bunin
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02-01-2006 02:29
130,751
1,939
$42,472
GMT 1028 1st Feb 2006
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Flavian Molinari
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02-01-2006 02:34
Wouldn't a spread sheet be better for this or am I missing something?
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Paulismyname Bunin
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02-02-2006 03:04
Yes, of course a spreadsheet would be easy for me but I am GMT based, cannot log on day and night, and I am wondering if these stats really mean anything from a growth viewpoint.
I therefore hope other people will also post the same stats at different GMT times, for example I logged on briefly GMT 22:30 Sunday last and noticed a far higher percentage of people on line, nearly 5,000 as it happens. I thought these stats migh have some use to more of us.
131,500
1,860 $23,973
11:00 GMT 02/Feb/ 2006
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Frank Lardner
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Purpose?
02-02-2006 05:05
From: Paulismyname Bunin Yes, of course a spreadsheet would be easy for me but I am GMT based, cannot log on day and night, and I am wondering if these stats really mean anything from a growth viewpoint. So, rather than relying on an existing source that is far more comprehensive and detailed, you'd rather you and others spend their time spotting these un-correlated numbers? I fail to see the purpose. Once again, here is the data from the link originally posted by Iron Perth at http://planet0.planet-zero.org/~chromal/slpop/, which appears there as an easily understood graph with about 14 weeks of compiled data:   
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Paulismyname Bunin
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02-03-2006 03:28
Information not on web page today.
No disrespect intended but I am just looking at stats.....that is my nature of course and over the years I have learned that so called un-correlated data is not always so
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Wayfinder Wishbringer
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02-03-2006 07:28
I found this post most enlightening. Out of 130,000+ users, only about 1,800 to 4,000 log on at any one time? I've always wondered what the real figures would reveal and how that would compare to other systems. Since unique demographic stats are essential to proper marketing, as a merchant I have to wonder why it is that Linden Lab doesn't produce such information. For example: at what time of day does SL boast the largest online populations? (important for planning events and sales). How many unique users are there on the board?. Since these things are not published (to my knowledge), I have to believe it's because LL doesn't want that information known. If that's not correct, I'd invite LL to provide open-book, no-smoke-screen statistics and prove otherwise. I've often wondered what the actual "membership" of SL would be... * If we take out those who haven't logged on in the last 30-60 day period * If we take out those who have multiple accounts (alts) * If we take out FREEBIE users * If we take out users who spend less than L250 a week How many UNIQUE users log on during an average day? (ie, totally different users, discounting alts). I've often mentioned to LL that their user policies and decisions are not condusive to long-term business. This thread appears to verify what I've suspected for a long time: SL doesn't seem to be all that popular or successful. Just how many active members does SL really have? Inquiring minds want to know. 
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Paulismyname Bunin
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02-03-2006 08:05
Now back up, web page has been fixed as I posted in Lindon Forum
132,069
2,497
$34,408
16.00 GMT 03/02/2006
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Paulismyname Bunin
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02-03-2006 16:29
132,069
4,410
$98,456
GMT 00.26 04/Feb/2006
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Paulismyname Bunin
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02-04-2006 03:04
132,658
2,048
$17,034
11:00 GMT 04/Feb/2006
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Paulismyname Bunin
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02-05-2006 03:27
133, 321
2,151
$23,716
GMT 11:20 05/Feb/2006
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Damien Phoenix
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02-05-2006 09:36
What is the point, when there is MUCH better data already available?
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Paulismyname Bunin
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02-06-2006 00:55
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08:50 06/Feb/2006 GMT
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Paulismyname Bunin
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02-06-2006 01:38
From: Damien Phoenix What is the point, when there is MUCH better data already available? Damien, let me tell you a true story from my real first life and to give you some background to my own thoughts and my way of thinking and working with stats Unlike some here who guard their real life ID, and perhaps because I have been a member of quite a few virtual communities over the years I am reasonably relaxed about my real life ID. What I do and what I am is a 50-year-old male Independent Financial Advisor in the UK. I have direct responsibility for many millions of pounds of other peoples invested money, and in addition I am an active private investor. I say this to illustrate the point that back in the early days of the Internet it was either extremely difficult or expensive to get real time stock market information, and what was provided was either out of date (in other words the time value had been extracted from it before it was passed on) or very expensive...i.e. a Bloomberg or Reuters Terminal. A group of people clubbed together in the UK to see if they were able to overcome those obstacles by a combination of group buying power and free exchange of information, and by and large they succeeded. One particular piece of information that was very important for us ALL to know was the FT100 closing level at 4:30 GMT vis-à-vis the Dow at the same time. Armed with that information we would be able to predict (at 21:00 GMT) if the FT100 would have an up or down day the next day. From a trading viewpoint that was all you needed to know...but unless a group of us clubbed together and posted up the information the previous day we would not know market direction until the time value of that information was used up...i.e. around 10:00/11:00 GMT the following day. (PS for those of you who understand such matters we did not have direct access to the futures market either) So here, in the early days of Second Life in perhaps similar circumstances instead of wading though countless screens, graphs, and other stats, from a financial/economic view all I need to know is contained within those 3 numbers, population/online/spend. If they all go up and maintain their average ratios we have a healthy expanding economy and concept if they don’t or if ratios change, there may be a problem. The data comes direct from Lindon, so presumably it is a trusted information source without bias. Finally I have said this before but I have no clear idea as to if this platform (Second Life) has real long-term financial possibilities, or is a massive potential financial disaster in the making. However I am here which must tell you I am very cautiously optimistic it may be a good trading platform that could evolve into a type of Ebay. But those 3 numbers from Lindon website may inform or warn us either way.
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Paulismyname Bunin
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02-07-2006 06:37
134,562
2,204
$67,946
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Shep Korvin
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02-07-2006 08:54
From: Paulismyname Bunin The data comes direct from Lindon, so presumably it is a trusted information source without bias. Actually, until fairly recently, those figures were a just rough estimate/average based on the total trade the day before. People noticed something fishy when it started getting somewhat out of synch with reality (especially on maintenance days, when the stats insisted thousands of people were logged in, when the system was in fact down). It might represent live data now. Or it might not. I forget. *shrugs*. Irrespective of that, who is this "us" you speak of? And wouldn't you be better just jotting this stuff down in a desktop notebook?
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Wayfinder Wishbringer
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02-07-2006 11:05
From: Damien Phoenix What is the point, when there is MUCH better data already available? Could someone post the URLs of better demographic data? I'd love to do a bit of research. Because myself, I've been looking for it for ages, and have come up either with zip, or pretty much pointless data. Of particular interest are the total users per day, and the times they are online. Of additional interest (although probably totally unavailable) is how many of those are unique identities rather than alts for the same user.
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Paulismyname Bunin
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02-07-2006 16:51
134,562
4,592
$214,058
The last dollar spend figure is outside my limited date range. I post it "as is" as data from Linden.
Shep, I am UK GMT based and the data available seems to spike at 20:00/23:50 US West Coast time. I was hoping that a few kind people would just post the data at that time...when I am tucked up in bed!!!
Thanks for your time
Paul
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Paulismyname Bunin
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02-08-2006 01:58
135,250
2,059
$19,550
10:00 GMT 08/Feb 2006
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