Land Selling 101 and "Land Swooping"
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mectron Noodle
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05-14-2006 21:27
From: Cottonteil Muromachi What does one call an ethical greed oriented individual? Someone will do anything legal (and still ethical) do make a buck. but when one is trolling the grid in search on land for sale at 0$ or 1$ (when that undividual perfecly know that is someone setting up is land for sale) is just a plain low life parasite scumbag. And believe there is a lot of those in SL. To remain a nice place to live and visit LL need to get rid of the garbage that litters SL everywhere. (people who make a living STEALING should be the first to be "swoop" from the grid. Proposed anti-stealing protocol. If soneone "buy" you land for a low price (like 0$ or 1$) and you don't ment to, a complaint to Sl should result is and instant life banning of the parasite who did it. Only extrem and fast action from LL will clean ut the grid of all the individuals that are there only to cheat and steal.
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ReserveBank Division
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05-14-2006 21:52
From: mectron Noodle Crooks who STEAL land from unsuspected newbies or user who made a mistake, are just low life garbage. And if SL does do anything agains them. i sugest a NEW group to fight those scumbag any we can. Folks have to live and learn.... Thats Life... If they sold their land for L$1 dollar, I bet you they won't make the same mistake a 2nd time. You can't save the world from its stupidity... Some people are just ignorant. That's life...
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Cottonteil Muromachi
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05-15-2006 05:02
From: mectron Noodle Proposed anti-stealing protocol. If soneone "buy" you land for a low price (like 0$ or 1$) and you don't ment to, a complaint to Sl should result is and instant life banning of the parasite who did it. I suppose they should have a confirmation dialog box for people shooting at avatars too. Something along the lines of 'Your avatar is being shot at. Do you want to take the bullet?'
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Jamie Bergman
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06-01-2006 13:14
From: Weedy Herbst Reported for personal attack.
A land swooper is someone who takes land from someone that did not intend the sale to take place. NEVER have I bought land from someone that did not intend to sell it to me.
If you wish to continue to accuse me of this, I will continue to report you for personal attacks. Looks like LL really thought it was a personal attack seeing as how I was never banned nor even warned. 
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2ndLife Commerce
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06-01-2006 13:17
From: ReserveBank Division
You can't save the world from its stupidity... Some people are just ignorant. That's life...
i'm not ignorant you damn fool.
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Jonas Pierterson
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06-01-2006 15:27
From: 2ndLife Commerce i'm not ignorant you damn fool. Ok, maybe he's NOT an alt of RBDs.
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Musuko Massiel
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06-01-2006 16:36
"If soneone "buy" you land for a low price (like 0$ or 1$) and you don't ment to, a complaint to Sl should result is and instant life banning of the parasite who did it."
And you don't mean to?
Person A: Whoops! I didn't mean to shut down my computer just then! Person B: What do you mean? Your computer said "are you sure?" and you had to click again. How could you shut it down by accident? I mean...wha...how...? *head explodes*
Now, I'm all for justice, but if you put up a big sign saying "DON'T PUSH THIS BUTTON UNLESS YOU ARE REALLY SURE YOU WANT YOUR HEAD TO EXPLODE", you really shouldn't be expected to compensate exploded-headed people. Sure, you could step in and reverse sales when the seller complains, but how far do you take that? Someone realises they sold for under the market value and realises they could have gotten more, so complains to Lindenlabs about it and pretends they didn't mean to sell?
"Reported for personal attack."
Today, boys and girls, we're going to learn all about the word "sensitive".
Hey Weedy! You're a weed! Yah boo! *raspberry!* Look at me! I'm attacking your person! Oh noes!
Musuko.
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Weedy Herbst
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06-01-2006 17:25
From: Jamie Bergman Looks like LL really thought it was a personal attack seeing as how I was never banned nor even warned.  Sounds like sour grapes to me Jamie, for the Lindens coming to your store and ripping down the invisible prim, walls, floor and roof you used to 100% block me from my land. Not to mention the abusive and slanderous statements your alts hurled while I was on my land. That AR is still under investigation. Hmmm, somehow, amazingly you left a couple of walls open and removed the roof after talking to a Linden.....can you say "Jamie is warned?".....hahahaa Oh, BTW, they didn't warn me about my sign (which you also illegally blocked). Didn't you accuse me of extortion?.... Well, I was not warned about that. Freedom of Speech does not appear in your so-called free world advocacy. That's something which communists do.
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Jamie Bergman
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06-01-2006 18:52
From: Weedy Herbst Sounds like sour grapes to me Jamie, for the Lindens coming to your store and ripping down the invisible prim, walls, floor and roof you used to 100% block me from my land. Not to mention the abusive and slanderous statements your alts hurled while I was on my land. That AR is still under investigation.
Hmmm, somehow, amazingly you left a couple of walls open and removed the roof after talking to a Linden.....can you say "Jamie is warned?".....hahahaa
Oh, BTW, they didn't warn me about my sign (which you also illegally blocked). Didn't you accuse me of extortion?.... Well, I was not warned about that. Freedom of Speech does not appear in your so-called free world advocacy. That's something which communists do. I win!!!
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Weedy Herbst
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06-01-2006 19:27
From: Jamie Bergman I win!!! On the contrary, you lose. Afterall the Lindens attended at my request, took down the walls and forced you to allow me access to my land. Griefing is not winning. Bumping a thread to make a personal attack is the lowest of the low, particularily when your accusations stem from a completely an unrelated incident, where you were warned.
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Sandy Barnett
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New Users and Land
06-01-2006 23:41
Hello everyone. Since we are talking about new users and selling land while not knowing the system....I thought I would throw my two cents in here....since I am new user who just got royally SCREWED on the system by selling my land, when I did not really want to sell it.
Well...I guess I should not say that...I mean...I DID want to sell it. ...I DID want to make a profit off of it...But....it is not fair....because....well...see...I was not really READY to sell it.... I mean ....well...I said YES...I want to sell it to ANYONE at the price that *I* set....but I was really only wanting OFFERS....I Mean...I never thought anyone would actually BUY it as fast as they did....
I went to the kitchen for a quick break, and came back...and the Lindens were in my account, and the land was gone.... It was just not fair...Terrible terrible thing....Absoultely horrible....
Of course....I DID put it up for sale...I DID know that I was doing it...and that anyone could buy it....I just did not expect it...being taken advantage of is so terrible...
Especially when it sold for about 6 times the market value. Yep...I got screwed out of my land all right. I just made sure that if I got screwed out of it, I would make my money first by setting the price so high, that it would be well worth losing it. I am financed for the next few months easy now.
The guide for selling really is clear. It does ask you plenty of times if you REALLY want to do this....After all...the only SURE way to never get pregnant is to not have sex. And if you DO have sex, well, you just might could get pregnant...For those who are not aware of that....
By the way, pointing a gun at anyone is dangerous. I just thought I would mention that as well.
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Jamie Bergman
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06-02-2006 06:44
From: Weedy Herbst On the contrary, you lose. Afterall the Lindens attended at my request, took down the walls and forced you to allow me access to my land.
Griefing is not winning.
Bumping a thread to make a personal attack is the lowest of the low, particularily when your accusations stem from a completely an unrelated incident, where you were warned. I was never warned, silly goose. Thats why I WIN! Capitalism will always prevail.
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Jonas Pierterson
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06-02-2006 06:46
From: Jamie Bergman I was never warned, silly goose. Thats why I WIN! Capitalism will always prevail. Nburg was capitalist. You yourself said Nburg failed. Guess you disregard silly things like that, eh?
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Jamie Bergman
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06-02-2006 07:05
From: Jonas Pierterson Nburg was capitalist. You yourself said Nburg failed. Guess you disregard silly things like that, eh? You're nuts. Nburg was NOT capitalist. Read its bylaws... even Ulrika and Kendra would agree it was a "Socialist Paradise". Read up, sonny!
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Jonas Pierterson
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06-02-2006 07:09
Their economy was  after all, their shops still compete.
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Good freebies here and here I must protest. I am not a merry man! - Warf, ST: TNG, episode: Qpid You killed my father. Prepare to die. - Inigo Montoya, The Princess Bride You killed My father. Your a-- is mine! - Hellboy
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Jamie Bergman
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06-02-2006 07:13
From: Jonas Pierterson Their economy was  after all, their shops still compete. Ummm... no. Read up Sonny. Maybe even IM Ulrika. She would shriek if she knew people were calling Nburg capitalistic.
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Jonas Pierterson
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06-02-2006 08:31
From: Jamie Bergman Ummm... no. Read up Sonny. Maybe even IM Ulrika. She would shriek if she knew people were calling Nburg capitalistic. competition in shops is capitalistic..any price difference is to a degree Don't really care if she shrieks, don't really care for much of what she says.
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Good freebies here and here I must protest. I am not a merry man! - Warf, ST: TNG, episode: Qpid You killed my father. Prepare to die. - Inigo Montoya, The Princess Bride You killed My father. Your a-- is mine! - Hellboy
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Jamie Bergman
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06-02-2006 12:49
From: Jonas Pierterson competition in shops is capitalistic..any price difference is to a degree
You really have no idea what you are talking about. I feel better now, as in the past I wondered if any of your arguments might have any merit at all, but if this is how you define capitalism I now know that you don't. :whew: thanks!
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Jonas Pierterson
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06-02-2006 13:21
You know its amazingly easy to ignore you Jamie.  Expect more freebies given out near your store tomorrow.
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Good freebies here and here I must protest. I am not a merry man! - Warf, ST: TNG, episode: Qpid You killed my father. Prepare to die. - Inigo Montoya, The Princess Bride You killed My father. Your a-- is mine! - Hellboy
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Kendra Bancroft
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06-02-2006 13:30
From: Jamie Bergman You're nuts. Nburg was NOT capitalist. Read its bylaws... even Ulrika and Kendra would agree it was a "Socialist Paradise".
Read up, sonny! Ulrika and I are Social Democrats. Neualtenburg was founded on strong capitalist economic principals fused with socialist principals of defending the minority classes, and ensuring a minimum standard of virtual life for all it's citizens. To claim that Neualtenburg, which had a merchant capitalist corporation as the the third arm of it's Government, is a socialist government is laughable.
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Jonas Pierterson
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06-02-2006 13:59
Care to admit I was right, Jamie?
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Good freebies here and here I must protest. I am not a merry man! - Warf, ST: TNG, episode: Qpid You killed my father. Prepare to die. - Inigo Montoya, The Princess Bride You killed My father. Your a-- is mine! - Hellboy
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Paulismyname Bunin
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06-02-2006 14:01
Can some kind soul tell me where I can get hold of a scripted land scanning tool if such a thing exists. Could be quite useful methinks.
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Rasah Tigereye
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06-02-2006 14:13
From: Paulismyname Bunin Can some kind soul tell me where I can get hold of a scripted land scanning tool if such a thing exists. Could be quite useful methinks. IM Ice Brodie for one. Her group built such a thingy
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Cosmic Rust
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06-02-2006 14:55
I'm very new so I wouldnt know but I read so many posts about land and "find" has thousands of plots of land available, as a newbie people keep asking if they can buy my first land plot which i've not sold to anyone but what I can understand is why would people want to swoop in a buy land like has been said in this thread or I cant understand why there are hundreds of people saying they will buy your land, as theres so much land available and thousands of regions you can buy for $1000 odd each whats the hype?
I've just looked at a small part of land at the side of the road, you could hardly build on it price was $L 2000 + $5.88 a month, even if someone got it a lot cheaper by doing it in dodgy ways whats the point? there tier will only go up but theres another 98 million possible plots for someone to take?
Just cant see any value or how mass land owners could stay in business by holding lots of land?
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Weedy Herbst
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06-02-2006 15:18
From: Paulismyname Bunin Can some kind soul tell me where I can get hold of a scripted land scanning tool if such a thing exists. Could be quite useful methinks. Land scanning was nerfed in 1.9.0.
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