New competition for the Lindex !

I'd have to agree with you there.

I have a feeling more and more virtual worlds
will be coming online over time... with even
more emmersion. Soon, 3D holograms, etc.

As far as another exchange goes...
I think it might be interesting to have one
set up where the sellers get to sell WITHOUT
partial fills... this would allow them to sell
bulk amounts at different rates.

Not sure how much I really like that myself,
but I'd like to see it more in action. GOM was
doing this, but it was before my time.

Have you ever dealt with attorneys? I am in the midst of 2 RL disputes. My RL business was sued by 2 different people. The total amount we are being sued for is ~$18,000 USD. I am in the right in these cases 100%. The first case was just resolved, we won, my legal fees for that case are $5000 USD. The suit was for $8000 USD. It is likely my legal fees for the second case will equal the amount we are being sued for. A legal remedy is not always a viable solution, sometimes you just have to take what you can get.


Perhaps it's just his way of getting back at a party who he perceives did him an injustice.



See above.



I don't think the one liners are such a good idea either, makes him seem bitter. Initially you asked if there was substance in his posts, I simply relayed my POV on the subject. You seemed to have no idea what had transpired in the past. I am in no way defending Merwan, he is a big boy and can do that himself.

Yes.




Then again, maybe not.




It makes him seem more than bitter, IMHO.



You're right and I STILL have no idea. All I've seen are one-liner type attacks from Merwan on a business he has no stake in, and nothing whatsoever from the other side. Farther, I've not noticed ANYONE but Merwan posting these attacks, leading me to believe that it is probably utter nonsense.

Merwan has offered to provide a reference on request. Since he has offered, I'd like to know, from him, what's behind all of this childish behavior. I'd like his reference on SL Exchange and whatever/whoever else he is 1-lining about.. I'd like a complete accounting of what he's been (just BARELY) flapping his jaws about all this time so that *I* can form an educated opinion as to whether or not SL Exchange is to be trusted with my currency exchange business.

Ahh.. I see this thread has turned in
to one all about Merwan...

just great.. thanks guys

Do you really expect anything more from these forums? I am surprised that the LindeX thread has lasted 13 pages without a warning from Jeska. That in of itself must be a record!

This is a public discussion forum. A company's history comes into play when trust is involved. My part in this discussion was just to enlighten someone who seemed to have no knowledge of Merwan's involvement with the company we are discussing.

I should also add that I use SLEX and have never had any problems. I would trust them with my $$ and believe this has the potential to be a great service.

No I really just wanted to write a post and get a response. He tries to turn EVERY SINGLE THREAD that mentions SLEx into a discussion of why he hates SLEx without really saying anything other than nasty little 1-liner attacks. Really I was addressing him specifically and hoping for one reply from him specifically so we could get OFF of this and back onto the real topic, hopefully in ALL SLEx threads.

I wasn't antiticipating that everyone BUT the wonderful Mr. Marker himself would reply. Why does he need to post this nonsense and then lurk while other people who aren't even connected with his greivance jump in on his behalf? Really, if he has anything of substance to offer, he should just state his claim, and then let it go allowing people to make up their own minds without his snide attacks! If he DOESN'T have anything of substance to offer, he should stop playing his libalous games or face a banning from the forums! Ruining threads like this in an effort to canabalize someone else's business is NOT an acceptable way to act!

I like cheese.

Yes... and that is why each of us has the ability to start a new thread
for a new topic... and even point to the new thread if needed.

In fact... this topic of SLex exchange coming online was talked about
in several other threads, and that is exactly the reason I stopped
and created a thread just for the topic.

Perhaps you should start one called "The trouble with Merwan"
and at least TRY to stay on topic

Well, I'm still waiting.

Hmphf.

Why would I do that?


Good for you! That's exactly what we are discussing!


I was not the one who brought up Merwan. I was simply addressing a concern from another poster in this thread.

Yeap - money talks and bullshit walks.

Spare me the it's over, move on, grow up, drop it, etc. etc.

Apo is dishonest and no amount of pressure will silence me!

He knows what he did, I know what he did - and as my 97 year old mother's says:


"The truth will out."

_/_/

I just got my email from Apotheus saying his test exchange
is NOW open! I guess he's letting us testers in now.

Check your email!

I know Apotheus as one honest, fair and reliable person. I wish your words and actions would allow me to develop similar level of trust in your person as well.

Unfortunately, what you have been engaging in, since January, and not seem to want to stop even after 8 months is harassment, slander, stalking and deliberately trying to damage the reputation of one person, Apotheus, and one business, SLEx. Considering that you voluntarily sold me your share in SLExchange.com with the promise that you are not going to damage the very business that you advertised and sold to me I find what you are doing here very irritating.

I suggest that if you still have one personal problem with Apotheus you take it to personal communication with him. I own 30% of SLExchange.com and I bought those from you, for your asking price and not on my own initiative. You should seriously question yourself about the morality of your actions on this thread, countless other threads and in world, at least as far as they relate to me. I trusted you that you would be fair when offering me your SLExchange.com share, that you would keep to your promise and not take my US$, then turn around and try to ruin what you just sold to me!

Anshe this has nothing to do with you!

Ok so, what IS this "truth" that you keep vaguely alluding to? Why don't you stop trolling from the shadows and just tell this mysterious and elusive "truth"? Could it be that in fact you have nothing of substance to say?

I'm not trying to silence you at all, I'm trying to do just the OPPOSITE. If there's anything whatsoever of merit that you have to say, the community diserves to hear it in light of the launching of this currency exchange. If not, you should just admit that you're a bitter, trolling liar and/or stop with the attacks. Barring either of these, you should be banned from the forums as the lying troll that you continue to make yourself out to be through these vague attacks.

Is there any substance to your vague attacks? If so, by all means please, let's hear it!

Thanks for realizing this. Then please take your personal issues with another resident to your own discussions or threads and don't post it in the context of SLExchange.com, which I am co-owner of.

I'm beginning to agree. I'm feeling like he really doesn't have any specific substance to offer. The question really is, why is THIS resident special in LL's eyes? Why is he allowed to engage in these characater assasinations? He should offer up his claims in full, or be banned from the forum, IMHO.

Merwan, I left you a message in your PM box.

MJ

Not understanding most of this thread because I have never bought $L's before (mostly because I havn't needed to, but it all seems quite confusing with the out of world web sites, pay pal, etc.

Are the Lindens offering a service fee free exchange?

If so, I don't see how anything could compete with that, especial for relative newbies and newbies to exchanging.

Why would someone use an out of world site rather than an in-game service? (not flaming just asking to be convinced of the pros to such a service)

Nope.

so basically, if I'm understanding this right, anyone wanting to compete with the LL system is going to have to make it attractive to people who would rather do everything the simple way. Simple transactions, lower processing fees, and MUCHO in-world advertising in order to lure the Newbie away from what is easiest?

The huge advantage that LL has is direct access to a users payment details. The first thing that any new user has to do before they even get a SL account is give LL their CC or PayPal details and LL are leveraging that advantage with their exchange.

Any competing exchange, whether free market or direct trader, has first to also convince the user to give them their CC or PayPal details as well. This the part Philip pointed out as being "to difficult" for new users...


When GOM closed yesterday there were roughly 2000 active accounts. That is less than 4% of the published user numbers. LL has instant access to the remaining 96%. In RL that would be seen as unfair competition.
If LL had created the market in the first place it would have been a different story and 3rd party sites may never have tried to compete, but LL actively encouraged GOM to create this market and 'taking it over' at this stage amounts to no more than goverment interference.

LL write the software for SecondLife, they host the servers it runs on, they tell us the world we created with it is ours. Well WE created the economy by buying and selling our creations. 3rd party sites created the exchanges. LL needs to think very carefully about how much of OUR economy in OUR world they can control and still hold true to their marketing hype.

Your world, your imagination... yeah right...