Defending consumer interests: rating escort girls

I have created this site:

http://sl-escort-ratings.blogspot.com/

Escort girls sell a product, so I thought it would be fair to rate it.
Just like cars, computers, and other products are rated.

How excellent! Have you considered making this into a website? You could charge L$100/wk for virtual sex providers to list themselves (bio, etc) and make that free to read. However, in order to retrieve ratings, virtual sex consumers would have to pay L$10 to query the ratings database, assuming the query returns results. Of course it would have to be free for virtual sex consumers to rate virtual sex providers. You could be sitting on a gold mine here!

I thought about doing such a thing. But then all girls are going to give each other high ratings. So the site will become worthless.

Escort Girls could offer discounts to punters on the promise of a good rating...

In fact, Punters could charge Escort Girls depending on the rating the escort wants to receive.

This could cause a major turn-around in some business areas...

Well. This is why I haven't included any submitted reviews yet.
So far I've been as objective as I could. When people loose faith in the ratings, the project will fail.
But I am looking for people who I can trust and want to write reviews too.
There are a few good girls out there, and many crapy ones. With a little bit of help this site can turn into a valuable service.

The Linden$ that escorts receive are so laughably few that their "escorting" should not really be thought of as a commercial service, but rather, erotic roleplay for fun. There is nothing wrong, per se, about rating escorts. However, you should keep in mind that the experience someone has with an escort is usually directly related to the experience the excort receives. For example, if you want an escort to be expressive, then be expressive yourself. If you want romance, be romantic. If you want dirty talk, talk dirty, etc. Make the experience memorable for the escort and it will usually be reflected in the experience you have. Therefore, the value of "ratings" is greatly diminished unless the person rating the escort also discloses both sides of the interaction. I speak from personal experience as I've "hired" a few Second Life escorts prior to meeting my beloved Crystal.

About the two-way thing: that's true.
Therefore I only rate when I'm in the mood for, well, the thing I'm rating.
And I always play more or less the same character, namely myself. Good escorts make the experience good, bad escorts don't respond well to what you want to do. There's some explanation about this on the site, under the The Best Girls post.
My input is always the same, so it doesn't influence the ratings.

And about "The Linden$ that escorts receive are so laughably few that their "escorting" should not really be thought of as a commercial service, but rather, erotic roleplay for fun": many ask about L$800 for 30 minutes.
If everybody thinks that's laughable, okay, I'd like to know that.

I find it hard to believe that there aren't a LOT of av's making a RL living as virtual escorts. I know a few av's who make a ton of L$ in this field. Workers in the virtual sex industry should not sell themselves so cheaply for the sake of erotic roleplay. Don't be afraid to charge fair market value for your services. You should form a union of virtual sex workers and standardize prices!

I will say from the start that yes this response is biased, My friends own and manage Bb's honeys and I dance there occasionally. I also own one of the adjoining islands, Kauna.

I do agree that ratings will help clients choose better escorts and places to go but you also need to take into account the settings that each club can provide.
How are the private rooms?
How is the atmosphere and the company of the people ?
Is the club squashed on a mainland sim with 2 other clubs and a monster mall with 10 campers?
Have you been with the girls you review more than once?
More importantly, how about a little feedback to your escorts so the girls CAN become better?

Does the public want a more personal experience at a club? Say taking a girl for a romantic walk on the beach and relaxing in a sauna or a romantic setting? Eventually leading to some nice lovings?
Or is it all about the sex and only that ?

Ive created a park behind BBs for the public to use free of charge (hopefully for some small tips LOL ) and for the girls to take clients that wish for this type of activity but I am not sure that it is even desired. Id love to get some comments from the users of this forum, better yet come out to the park and Im me and tell me your thoughts

ps- I do think that Jeroen DeGroot has a great idea but it needs to be unbiased without input from people that benefit - including me. lol

Thanks
Sara

I'd seen the site a few times before this thread came along.

It's a little misleading calling it escort ratings, there's more than a number next to each name. It's more like escort reviews.

As a result it's a really nice site. More than once I've thought I should send an escort over there for a tutorial... the evaluations are effectively some good advice. So I just want to say 'good job Jeroen'... keep it up and I encourage you to keep sharing the whole experience, don't try to make the reviews shorter or simpler.

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And for you Sara... I haven't been to BBs lately so I haven't seen the park. But I've compared other clubs/services and BBs already does a number of things better than most -- atmosphere, information, facilities, and more. I do have some good advice, and I'm the park type... but I'm not exactly your target market so maybe it doesn't matter.

Actually, your post is surprising, in the best sense. I've talked to various dancers, escorts, and madams in SL, and few of them have much interest in feedback... or in giving any feedback either. But don't mind that... you're asking the right questions, so keep it up.

that is just it, We WANT feedback, we want to have a nice club where people can come and have fun and we want to be unique, offer something that is NOT run of the mill
sure our girls and ourselves want to make a little Lindens but we are more into the fun, Oh yeah
we do love the fun, lol new friends sexy avis good music and hoopefully good friends. If we can come close to supporrting our islands then that is a plus also.

as for the review on Jenny, she is a great girl and has a heart of gold and I KNOW she loves her escorting. I just cant explain her review but I DO hope that you told her about it.

Good night all

I would say the ratings would be based on popularity. Which would be fine, but let's look at a different situation.

The demand for plus-size and super-size escorts, while small, is not nonexistant. So if there was a plus-size escort being rated, suppose everyone who only thought thin was beautiful ganged up and gave her a bad rating? This doesn't go both ways as long as "fat admirers" are the minority.

My point is, obviously there will be favoritism, but it will run smack into size discrimination.

BTW I will not become an escort, do not PM me asking about it.

I'd bet that about sums about the thoughts of the majority residents' view on L$ made from hot avatar nakedness. Even those that frequent the best of in world services don't spend anywhere near what live cam "escort" web sites charge. Now if a smart madam started to provide live in world streaming video of their girls for enhancing the experience I'd think the money made would be more noteworthy.

I will keep my coments as brief as possible. Long winded posts that state the obvious bore me, so I would only assume others have the same reaction.

I think this is a wonderful idea. Beyond wonderful, actually.

There are so many "girls" (in quotes due to questionable gender issues) out there that give those of us who have a passion for the career (can you call it that?) a bad rep. Ever since I started escorting in SL, I have been disgusted by the way some of the girls act, treat clients, and carry themselves.

While I am sure that some guys want nothing more than to stare at a sexy avvie bounce up and down on a poseball, I would think that the majority want much more. Frankly, escorts that limit themselves to such laziness should not be charging. That is NOT what an escort is. Nor is she a prostitute. She is a skilled courtesan, a profession that has a tradition spanning thousands of years, as it is the oldest profession on earth. She should have class, style and grace. She should be intelligent, charming, and witty. She should make him feel like he is the only man in the world. Is this possible in SL? Damn right it is. And when it comes time to indulge his erotic desires, she should be equally adept in catering to his needs.

I refuse to get into the dynamics of escort behavior here, but a few things to consider -

1. When rating a girl, frankly I dont think she should ever realize it. A skilled escort could become nervous and slip. A lazy girl could try harder than usual, thus resulting in a skewed opinion. Perhaps this is stating the obvious.
2. Some of the best escorts in SL may not seem so when you first meet them in the club. They me be quiet, reserved, etc. They may be popular and in many IM's. Just because she isnt grinding herself all over the pole on the stage and moaning, doesnt mean she isnt talnted.
3. There are many things that make up a good escort, but the most important is enjoying what you do. For some of us, who lead rather.... different first lives, what we do in SL is a fantasy. If she enjoys what she is doing you will most certainly know it. If she is there only for the lindens, the result is equally obvious.
4. Many girls have a style all their own. Activites they like. No matter who you are, everyone has a fetish or something that really, floats their perverbial boat. This goes for clients, and girls as well, of course. If you have something in mind, dont be embarrased to tell her. Her job is to make you happy, while maintaining a level of discretion, and making you comfortable. This is quite easy in SL. Don't be shy. You may be suprised at how she reacts to yor ideas. Some girls, (such as myself) even do fantasy avvies (My specialty is Bettie page).

<sighs> well I suppose I did commit a long winded post anyway.. Apologies, being talkative when you are passionate about a subject is a pices trait that lives in me...

I moved the site to sl-escorts.com and added a forum, so everybody can talk about the services the girls provide.

lmao ! -- keep dreaming.

depending on whether you believe in

1. RL laws applying to SL on the practical level

or

2. the benefits of anti-competitive laws (like the Sherman Act in the US or the EU or Australian competition laws) on an ethical level


... doing the above in RL would be considered anti-competitive and illegal at least in many RL jurisdictions.

but then your smiley-face implies that aren't really being serious anyway

Who would want to live in a jurisdiction where unions are illegal? Other than rich politicians I mean....

to be serious for a moment, it's not unions that are illegal michael, it's price fixing

Update: A big SL strip club and an escort are advertising on the site now. Interviews are coming up. I'm not banned. So it seems this is going to work.

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I'm sorry to say but those ratings are absolute crap compaired to what I'm used too... I'd dump any of the 4 1/2 girls simply because I am used to detailed intensive roleplay... you know how /me has a command imput limit? my friends and I will often use THREE or FOUR of them for each of our actions...

Honestly, I'm fixing to open a teaching class for escorts and hope the club owners send in their girls.

Really, that made my face fault if 5 is the top rating.

You know what I do when I wish to work as an escort? I use a flip title directing people to click on my arm band, it sends them a notecard sample of my work with another client so they KNOW what type of quality they are going to get.

If a girl, or a guy, wishes to premote their services they should give a client a free ride under the condition it can be a sample.... then hand it out as such.... too many think one sentance a pose with two discriptive words is worth 850 lindon... heck... I've gone three hours and only charged a total of 400.

That's one possible way to have cybersex.

When you write short sentences you can express your stream of conciousness. That can be very sexy.

Everybody should do what they can best.

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maybe a better rating system, as many movie and game conpanies adhere to, is a 1-5 break down of post length, descriptiveness, speed, spelling/grammer and language use.

I think that would be a lot more meaningful and less abstract.

I agree, even the ESRB has a panel of qualified individuals rating the games though. It's not just one person. Maybe having more than one person rating the girls would prove more meaningful? A panel of at least 3 would seem legit. 2 guys and a woman maybe? You could rate them on their abilities to handle one-on-one straight sex, a threesome, group sex, one-on-one lesbian sex, and yes menage a trois. It only seems fair.

Leme know if you need some help.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Group_sex

A Linden Labs ban seems to be imminent after all. I posted a poll on this forum, but for some strange reason it was moved to General which nobody reads. It's about consumer rights:



Please vote here if you want to defend consumer interests and free speech, all at once.