No Money to be Made Trading L$
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Gigs Taggart
The Invisible Hand
Join date: 12 Feb 2006
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06-22-2006 20:23
From: Cow Hand Awww man, really? I mean, I'm totally not TRYING to ruin Secondlife or anything. I'm just trying to find my niche, you know? Don't listen to them Cow. You provided a valuable service. You helped tighten the spread. You added liquidity to the market where it needed it. The same type of people that are condemning you were freaking out when the spread was huge and "ignorant people were losing lots of money placing market sell orders!!!!! Remove market sell orders!!!" Now that the spread is pretty much where it should be, the profits in being a spread trader will stay small to none. There will be a little room there, but as soon as it opens up, traders can swoop in and close it back down, making a small profit. That's the unfortunate consquence of an efficient market. As efficiency approaches 100%, profit goes to zero. People like you help keep the market near that 100% efficiency mark.
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Lanny Heaney
Registered User
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06-22-2006 20:34
how can you making $200 per day ?
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Tyr Sartre
Stipend Breeder
Join date: 27 Sep 2005
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06-22-2006 20:45
It was all the undercutting that did it, you undercut yourself right out of your profits 
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Twiddler Thereian
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06-22-2006 21:13
I think you did really well and what you experienced I would call a semi-arbitrage play. We used to do this with There currency as well. The great thing about economic discrepancies is that they self correct and such plays generally disappear in a short amount of time. Someday we will be able to trade virtual futures and then you will be able to make long and short bets on the Linden. I don't know how many years away that will be though...maybe 10. You may be able to find more arbitrage plays in time but they are few and far between. A couple real life plays that I can think of are...ever wonder why they scream at you in vegas if you try to pull out your Cell phone in a sports book? It's because of arbitrage plays that cost the casinos thousands in the early 90s. One casino on the easy coast might have the odds for a fight or a game at X...and a casino on the west coast had it at Y...most of the times the bookies had similar odds, but occassionally the odds were off and you could place a bet in both casinos...the net result being "you could not lose" like with your Linden move. Another classic arbitrage was when Discover card first came out and paid 2% on any purchase...again you could go to vegas, buy $10,000 in casino chips on your card, then cash them back in and ...2% of 10 large is $200 for 3 minutes work. Anyways, again I think you did great and I'm jealous.  Again this is more of an arbitrage than currency trading. If you want to learn more about future trading, you might try Market Wizards.Twiddler http://www.taunt.com
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mcgeeb Gupte
Jolie Femme @}-,-'-,---
Join date: 17 Sep 2005
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06-22-2006 21:31
From: Lewis Nerd Never should have been in the first place. This is a computer game, not a replacement for getting a real job.
Lewis Just because this is a program that people can play, there are real jobs involved. Get over the fact that ppl can make a living on it if they put in as many hours as a rl job. It's just like someone that works for playstation or Xbox. It's just that instead of hiring a bunch of ppl to make things for their games, LL decided it would be better if everyone else did.
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ReserveBank Division
Senior Member
Join date: 16 Jan 2006
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06-22-2006 22:27
From: Keiki Lemieux Actually, most of the people who make a living or a partial living from SL are people who have busted their butt making great content. The great thing about SL in business terms is that you can start a business with practically zero capital. All you truly need is to be able to connect to SL (computer, ISP), a good idea, and the time to implement it. And there in lies the greatest problem.. Zero Capital... If you can make, 5,000 others can do the same thing...Its like Communism backwards.
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Lewis Nerd
Nerd by name and nature!
Join date: 9 Oct 2005
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06-22-2006 23:37
From: Cristiano Midnight Yeah, that is the ONLY difference between you and Anshe, uh huh  Well she's a Chinese woman living in Germany, I'm an English guy living in England... But really, given a few thousand dollars to risk on buying a few sims, yes I am quite sure I could landscape them, cut them up, and rent them out to people without too much skill. We all have the same tools. All you need with landscaping is imagination, at least with scripting you have something to learn. Lewis
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Fade Languish
I just build stuff...
Join date: 20 Oct 2005
Posts: 1,760
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06-22-2006 23:55
From: Merlyn Bailly People like you are ruining SL. Because your overwhelming positivity is such an asset to SL.
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Yumi Murakami
DoIt!AttachTheEarOfACat!
Join date: 27 Sep 2005
Posts: 6,860
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06-23-2006 06:11
From: Lewis Nerd We all have the same tools. All you need with landscaping is imagination, at least with scripting you have something to learn.
That's certainly not true, Lewis. I can imagine plenty of things I don't have the skill to build (yet  ) and land editing hurts my head (although I imagine it's easier on islands where you can upload a height map)
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Joannah Cramer
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06-23-2006 06:52
From: Siggy Romulus Thats funny - I remember Anshe when she was an escort (..)
She didn't have $$$ to sink into SL... in fact there was no way to do so when she started.
She got where she is by working her ass off. Literally, it'd seem o,o; sorry, sorry; couldn't resist ^^;; ... guess that gives Lewis another excuse why he cannot get rich like Anshe in SL, though... 
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Yumi Murakami
DoIt!AttachTheEarOfACat!
Join date: 27 Sep 2005
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06-23-2006 06:56
From: Joannah Cramer Literally, it'd seem o,o; sorry, sorry; couldn't resist ^^;; ... guess that gives Lewis another excuse why he cannot get rich like Anshe in SL, though...  Well, nobody really needs too much of an excuse!  The obvious reasons are: a) A new person would have to compete with Anshe, which Anshe never had to do and b) A new person wouldn't have been around at a time when stipends were high and a major new feature (animations) was first introduced, which is how I gather Anshe made a lot of her starting stake for land; a market condition that good will probably never arise again.
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Cow Hand
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Join date: 20 Feb 2006
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06-23-2006 07:16
From: Twiddler Thereian Another classic arbitrage was when Discover card first came out and paid 2% on any purchase...again you could go to vegas, buy $10,000 in casino chips on your card, then cash them back in and ...2% of 10 large is $200 for 3 minutes work. http://www.taunt.comOMG! This is amazingly awesome!! So you could basically pay for your entire vacation by pulling this little move! Man, I love how creative people can be!!!
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Burnman Bedlam
Business Person
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06-23-2006 07:57
From: Lewis Nerd Never should have been in the first place. This is a computer game, not a replacement for getting a real job. Lewis Heya Lewis... Actually this is a "platform", not a game. There are games within the platform, but by definition, this is not a game. 
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Burnman Bedlam http://theburnman.com Not happy about Linden Labs purchase of XStreet (formerly SLX) and OnRez. Will this mean LL will ban resident run online shoping outlets in favor of their own?
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Rob Forester
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06-23-2006 12:06
From: Lewis Nerd Well there must be plenty of money still in it otherwise people wouldn't be doing it. Don't for one minute be fooled into thinking they are providing a service out of the goodness of their heart..... its profit that drives them.
Oh, and the control and power you have over renters... did I mention that too?
One day one of the big name land barons is going to decide to give up and take their ball home with them... then LL will realise the damage that one player having too much power has.
Lewis I'm taking a different standpoint on the whole land business thing right now. I'm trying to provide a service to the land sellers by buying all their unwanted parcels for cheap that flood their inventory, and I hope to provide a service to the neighbors by never putting a for sale sign up, but instead putting maybe a few trees or flowers up. The numbers I have at half way through my first month have me making a 2% profit on a small teir. I would guess that if undesirable land bought from land sellers can make a profit, then desirable land sold by people actually trying to advertise their desire to buy should be able to make a profit. I think you are right. People wouldn't be doing it if they weren't making money.
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