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can i make L$ ingame?

Santon Oki
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07-19-2006 09:30
im new today. I saw that you can buy L$ for US$. But is there a way to make money ingame? if so, how?
Siobhan Taylor
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07-19-2006 09:32
Sure, you just need a small flat white prim and a L$1,000 texture.

Alternatively... yes, make and sell things, or find a job... or gamble, or ... well, there are a lot of ways really...
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Santon Oki
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07-19-2006 09:34
ok, thanks for ur time and help
Desmond Shang
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07-19-2006 10:03
From: Santon Oki
im new today. I saw that you can buy L$ for US$. But is there a way to make money ingame? if so, how?


Yes there is.

Find something you enjoy doing, learn about it, and go about your normal activities - eventually people will want to share in your fun! And beat a path to your door and *ask* for you to sell them products or services.

Perhaps you'll make objects or clothing or host events - it's as open ended as reality.



I'd strongly suggest taking a 'relax and see' approach in the beginning; take advantage of promotions, giveaways or whatnot, or simply buy $L 1000 off LindeX to start (that's less than 5 USD).

Between freebies, friends and some smart shopping, you can nicely set up your avatar and upload some images - very useful to learn about, if you intend to make anything to sell.

Secondlife has a difficult learning curve. But is very rewarding if you pace yourself and don't expect any get-rich-quick schemes to work.
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Zonax Delorean
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07-19-2006 11:26
From: Santon Oki
im new today. I saw that you can buy L$ for US$. But is there a way to make money ingame? if so, how?


I'll tell you for L$ 500 :-)

(You know the joke: after you pay the L$ 500, I'll tell you to find other people who need money, and tell them the same as I did to you :-)
Xplorer Cannoli
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Join date: 18 Sep 2005
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07-19-2006 12:29
From: Zonax Delorean
I'll tell you for L$ 500 :-)

(You know the joke: after you pay the L$ 500, I'll tell you to find other people who need money, and tell them the same as I did to you :-)


Yeah, I am still waiting for my $500L from you Zonax...

:-P

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Sarah Nerd
I BUY LAND
Join date: 22 Aug 2005
Posts: 796
Money..
07-19-2006 14:33
Seems like everyone comes into the game looking to make money nowbecause they read an article and assume they join and it just happens. I don't think happens easily. Theres no exact formula on how to do it. You just need to work hard, devote alot of time, and find that one thing that works for you, if anything.
Jessia Vezina
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Join date: 11 Jul 2006
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07-19-2006 14:45
I've actually found that if you learn the very basics of the building tool (to begin with) and maybe attend some of the random scripting classes, tutorials that are offered you will do just fine. Also, if you have experience as a DJ, Second Life seems to draw our types in left and right.

It is a wonderful medium for doing so.
Micki Baker
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Join date: 2 Nov 2005
Posts: 12
Lots of Ways!
07-19-2006 14:54
If you want to make enough money to survive in game, meaning skins, hair, clothes and some spending money, then I suggest camping and playing games such as Slingo, Tringo, Bingo etc. But, in playing games, make sure you put money in the pot when you play. There is also free slots going on in alot of the casinos. Owners of these places want you to take advantage of these offers, so have fun doing it! Good Luck!
Kalia Meiklejohn
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Join date: 20 Jun 2006
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07-19-2006 15:00
Do what I did, look for freebies, use camping chairs/dance pads that pay you for sitting or dancing, and save your Lindens for a couple of weeks.
Also check the events in the search function, designers have give-aways, raffles, $1L sales and such, and keeping your eyes open will get you far.
Find a job if you want to make more money...or two...doing something you're good at (if thats nothing in-game, try dancing).
Also, meeting people and making friends can let your into places you may never find on your own.

Good luck!
Micki Baker
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Yup, Kailia is right!
07-19-2006 15:11
You can get jobs as host in almost any gaming, casino and dance areas! Also, designers are always giving away clothing, and alot of places have money chairs. If the chair calls the first letter of your name you get the prize or money! Also alot of places have money balls that goes off every so often, some as close as 10 minutes. Just keeping checking the events and you will be fine:)
Nobody Fugazi
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Join date: 17 Jun 2006
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A lot of people are forgetting something really obvious outside of the U.S.
07-19-2006 15:21
While everyone who has been in game so long as to look down on newbies (I wish I never become like that), there's a new twist on it that a lot of people just don't get:

The majority of the world does not have access to PayPal or Credit Cards. So it's fine and dandy to have armchair discussions about what SL used to be, but it's changed with the Free accounts. So you have newbies from all over the world trying to move forward in game without being able to seed with anything but SL Welfare (money trees and camping chairs).

The reality is that a lot of these people will not last because of global financial infrastructural issues which exist outside of SL. But that doesn't mean that people should look down upon people who are giving SL a sincere try, and I must admit I've been disappointed in some of the comments I've heard some of the Grand Poobahs mention here in the the forums and in game when it comes to new folk in SL. When people do that, they tell me nothing about the new folk, but they tell me a lot about themselves. ;-)

Done properly, a lot of these people can be encouraged to add to SL.

Of course, selling Lindens on eBay seems to be on the rise as well. Intriguing.
Dmitri Polonsky
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Join date: 26 Aug 2005
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07-19-2006 17:47
From: Siobhan Taylor
Sure, you just need a small flat white prim and a L$1,000 texture.

Alternatively... yes, make and sell things, or find a job... or gamble, or ... well, there are a lot of ways really...



Jobs do not pay in SL.

Gaming in SL is rigged as are most contests.

Day traders and land barons selling L's are doing thier best to strangle in world sales so ppl have to buy thier L's.

I would strongly suggest if you want to be in SL jsut to make things for yourself and a few friends cool, but no..you cannot make money in SL. Not since Linden started listenning to ONLY the upper one percent of fat cats. You wanna make money do it in the real world. If you wanan do it in 3D make some things to list on Poser or 3DS Max sites for sale for real currency. SL being a business platform is a dead isue for anyone but a chosen few who are already in it.
Dnel DaSilva
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07-21-2006 10:09
From: Dmitri Polonsky
Jobs do not pay in SL.

Gaming in SL is rigged as are most contests.

Day traders and land barons selling L's are doing thier best to strangle in world sales so ppl have to buy thier L's.

I would strongly suggest if you want to be in SL jsut to make things for yourself and a few friends cool, but no..you cannot make money in SL. Not since Linden started listenning to ONLY the upper one percent of fat cats. You wanna make money do it in the real world. If you wanan do it in 3D make some things to list on Poser or 3DS Max sites for sale for real currency. SL being a business platform is a dead isue for anyone but a chosen few who are already in it.


This is total misinformation. I am VERY far from the 'upper one percent of fat cats' and I have managed to make a decent amount of money in SL; to the point that it now has paid for an island and its tier, completely from my income of L$. It does take time and effort, it took me many months of learning to get to the point that the items that I made were ready for sale. 'Content Creation' can and does pay, if you have the time and the talent to do so. As far as jobs go, I employ two sales consultants in my business and in June I paid out well over L$5000 in commission. Learn the tools, look for a good job, it can be done!
Nase Sleeper
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Join date: 6 Jan 2006
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07-21-2006 10:25
I can tell you that I have never purchased Lindens.
It is not necessary, and definitely not advisable.
I made $60.00 the first month I played.
I made $180 the second month.
In 2 more months, I made $700.00.

The only fees I paid were for my main, my alts, and land tier.
All the money I made was in the game buying land, hosting events, and selling objects.
When it comes to capitalist economics, I can give you a little advice.

1.
You are either capitalizing or being capitalized. Your objective as a capitalist is to syphon money from the economy, and into your pockets by any means necessary. Do not hesitate to take advantage of opportunity.

2.
I have never needed to resort to gimmicks like camping chairs because they are not lucrative. Learn the game, and think of lucrative endeavors. You never need to spend a single Linden to make Lindens. Your resources are unlimited.

3.
Do not forget about exponential returns. Even if you make $5.00 one week, you should not be sad. If you keep doubling what you have each week, you will be rich before you know it.
Haramino Itoku
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Join date: 18 Jan 2006
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07-21-2006 10:37
From: Dmitri Polonsky
Jobs do not pay in SL.

Gaming in SL is rigged as are most contests.

Day traders and land barons selling L's are doing thier best to strangle in world sales so ppl have to buy thier L's.

I would strongly suggest if you want to be in SL jsut to make things for yourself and a few friends cool, but no..you cannot make money in SL. Not since Linden started listenning to ONLY the upper one percent of fat cats. You wanna make money do it in the real world. If you wanan do it in 3D make some things to list on Poser or 3DS Max sites for sale for real currency. SL being a business platform is a dead isue for anyone but a chosen few who are already in it.


y do you bother then y even post this???
Gigs Taggart
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07-21-2006 17:34
From: Nase Sleeper
1. You are either capitalizing or being capitalized. Your objective as a capitalist is to syphon money from the economy, and into your pockets by any means necessary. Do not hesitate to take advantage of opportunity.


BS! Capitalism is about mutually beneficial transactions. You make something that people want more than they want to keep the money that you charge for it. They get value and you get value. It's symbiotic, not predatory or parasitic like you are making it out here.

Coersion though misleading people, tricking them, scamming them, scamming the system, none of that is part of capitalism, that's just criminal behavior that exists under every economic system.

Capitalism has a built-in resistance to these types of things compared to other economic systems, since any legitimate business has a lot on the line with each sale: Their reputation.


From: someone

2. I have never needed to resort to gimmicks like camping chairs because they are not lucrative. Learn the game, and think of lucrative endeavors. You never need to spend a single Linden to make Lindens. Your resources are unlimited.


Agreed. Find something that people want to buy, and make it happen!


From: someone

3.Do not forget about exponential returns. Even if you make $5.00 one week, you should not be sad. If you keep doubling what you have each week, you will be rich before you know it.


Easier said than done. A worthy goal though.
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Gigs Taggart
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07-21-2006 17:38
From: Haramino Itoku
y do you bother then y even post this???



Sounds to me like he's afraid of an influx of new competition maybe? (I have no clue, he's probably genuine, but who knows?)

There's little barrier to entry here. SL is an almost pure meritocracy. I don't know how anyone can assert that it's impossible to break into the markets here. You can build up from nothing, and grow to challenge even the most entrenched SL business if you play your cards right.
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07-21-2006 20:13
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Barbarra Blair
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07-22-2006 10:35
When you've been in SL awhile, you will suddenly think, "I wish I had <insert wish here>."

Build that thing and sell it.
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Svar Beckersted
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07-22-2006 10:53
From: Barbarra Blair
When you've been in SL awhile, you will suddenly think, "I wish I had <insert wish here>."

Build that thing and sell it.


LMAO, I do that all the time, now if I could only actually build or script something I'd be rich.
Doeko Cassidy
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07-23-2006 02:00
From: Nobody Fugazi
The majority of the world does not have access to PayPal or Credit Cards. So it's fine and dandy to have armchair discussions about what SL used to be, but it's changed with the Free accounts. So you have newbies from all over the world trying to move forward in game without being able to seed with anything but SL Welfare (money trees and camping chairs).


Could you maybe explain (or give an example of) how someone who has access to a decent computer and a high-speed connection who is allowed to play SL could possibly not have access to PayPal? :confused: Afaik every human being apart from people in a few countries where people probably never heard of SL, is allowed to have a paypal account.

If they have no real money, of course, then they would be better off finding any job than sitting on a camping chair.
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Doeko Cassidy
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07-23-2006 02:01
From: Svar Beckersted
LMAO, I do that all the time, now if I could only actually build or script something I'd be rich.


If you have that many a great idea, sell them to someone who can build and/or script. :)
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Dmitri Polonsky
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07-23-2006 02:43
From: Dnel DaSilva
This is total misinformation. I am VERY far from the 'upper one percent of fat cats' and I have managed to make a decent amount of money in SL; to the point that it now has paid for an island and its tier, completely from my income of L$. It does take time and effort, it took me many months of learning to get to the point that the items that I made were ready for sale. 'Content Creation' can and does pay, if you have the time and the talent to do so. As far as jobs go, I employ two sales consultants in my business and in June I paid out well over L$5000 in commission. Learn the tools, look for a good job, it can be done!


I know the tools quite well TYVM. And I do know how to build. And I also know that MOST jobs in SL do not pay a wage they pay tips only and then take a cut of those..this is not slave labor exactly as slaves jsut don't get paid..they did NOT ahve thier slave owners grabbing money out of thier pockets. My information is quite accurate so I would suggest you put your rose colorred glasses back on or start scratching your favorite land baroness's back again. But above all don't misinform newbs on the hope you can stroke a few bucks out fo them for your pocket.
Doeko Cassidy
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07-23-2006 03:18
From: Dmitri Polonsky
I know the tools quite well TYVM. And I do know how to build. And I also know that MOST jobs in SL do not pay a wage they pay tips only and then take a cut of those..this is not slave labor exactly as slaves jsut don't get paid..they did NOT ahve thier slave owners grabbing money out of thier pockets. My information is quite accurate so I would suggest you put your rose colorred glasses back on or start scratching your favorite land baroness's back again. But above all don't misinform newbs on the hope you can stroke a few bucks out fo them for your pocket.


lol. Do you seriously think it is impossible for new businesses to break through? That's a bit silly. I only have to mention a few examples to prove you wrong. One of them being me, actually, considering I started out with content development in december last year, raised enough money to buy and support my first sim that was opened in the beginning of June. Right now it is steadily growing at 3 sims and a 4th on the way. So basically, the land business is only a month or 2 old and already doing very well.

Other examples of new businesses with rapid growth are ALL over this forums. Caledon is, in my opinion, worthy of a mention in that category. There are also examples to be found in content creation, news/journalism and entertainment of people who work hard to accomplish something, rather than sit back and expect the money to flow in.

The point being that it is not about when you start, but what you start.

But above all, don't misinform newbs on the way SL business works based on your own incorrect observations.
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