Linden dropping, a new idea... maybe

if u lower stipend linden value ultimately will end up decreasing as people end up leaving as they wont be able to afford anything . it'd botch up the economy to much and make things hard on everyone as a whole mind u most of the people employed in SL are employed by people with premium memberships that own land and need more money to hire people and if u have a decrease in members you end up just screwing up everything. the stipend used to be very large and was lowered to 500L. the idea of premium accounts having no money would just screw a ton of people over in the end. main conflict with L value currently bears more on the camping chair epedmenic that has hit SL and with them taking away the developer incentive pay for the popular list linden value should restabalize to a decent amount. its the fact to many "basic" accounts have to much money now from sitting on their butts doing nothing then selling more at a lesser value. jsut give it time its like a market it goes up and down sure the immediate effect would be a major raise in L but then it'd drop down to be almsot worthless. and it'd still effect the same way but u would be buying 50L for like 2.00 usd instead of 500L and most designers that dont come in world alot hurts business etc. think things out more thouroughly in the future pertaining to money . this idea would jsut hurt everyone including YOU!

Frickin Funny! A good analogy??? I dunno...



OH MY GOD! Ever thought to capatalize, maybe use paraghraph breaks... it hurts to read this.

gets the point across though and i just type to fast to think when to break its not like an essay or sumtin =P

Stipend = Welfare.
Eliminate Stipends.

selling freebies = parasitic

stipends = not welfare (by proven definition)

Cut them and cut that cost off my premium.

Hmmm, something is wrong with this picture.

Welfare is something based only in a capitalist system. Revenue from taxation is taken from those who generate revenue, and is provided via transfer payments which prevent citizens to fall through the cracks of the system. Russia or China do not provide welfare payments to the masses.

On the same note, Russia and China do not administer to copyrights or intellectual properties, whereas capitalist governements protect individual rights.


Me tinks Jamie is a communist.

Not capitalists at all - a capitalist would realize a large consumer base is paramount to thier heath.. what we have here is 'chop shops'

Run the system into the ground so long as you make a buck..

The leap for Jaime isn't that great - parasitic with a different colored stripe.

If the value has remained the pretty much the same for nearly 2 months now.. it's just not the value they would like.

I'd like to drop a few Lindens. From a very great height onto something hard or spiky. And I'm not talking Linden dollars, either.

people that are calling Stipend Welfare are really just well in all fairness probably new and/or someone that doesnt do anything in SL and see's it as a way for them to make a quick buck by lowering the amount of circulated lindens. Side note is that this would have a boom effect at first then drop off and shatter the economy completely that exists in SL. There is no matter to why the linden value is falling given in context of there being to much linden circulating. Linden value is dictated by what people sell it for not how much is available or otherwise. It works like a Stock Market basically the value moves up and down according to how well things are going for the company but in turn with lindens its more based on the "stock holders" being both the buyer and seller of the stocks (stocks being linden in this matter). To say its falling or raising isnt really decided by Linden labs but rather by users. If
people sell less linden at a higher price it goes up if they sell more at a lower price it goes down. We people that pay premium memberships get a stipend but some of use pay upwards of 50 dollars a month or more to have alot of land. In summary without stipend = economic crush and stand still for a long time , loss of users staying in SL, loss of people coming into SL, and also a lack of content creation due to these facts. So i ask you people please stop looking for quick fixes because linden value isnt where you want it. Rather sit back and wait till its at a price you want it to be at instead of complaining be happy linden is worth what it is to begin with!

The people sick of the lindens being sold and lowering value..

can stop sellign their lindens..

That will stop some of it

Actually, I'd say it doesn't get the point across since you're running the risk of people simply skipping over it due to it being unreadable. It may not be an essay, but it is a forum post where you're apparently trying to advocate something (I wouldn't know for sure since I tend to not read posts formatted as poorly as yours). It doesn't have to be perfect, but it should be readable and appear at least somewhat thought out if you want people to take you seriously.

HP

I read the first one..second one notsomuch

Grammar is advised..even bad grammar

Keep the stipend as it is, I pay for premium expecting L$500 each week for certain. If they cut it any lower, I get rid of premium, 'nuff said on that.

Instead they should just add in one of the many (and IMO mostly very good ideas) for charging money on the p2p teleport system.

Simply:
p2p teleport to a parcel is disabled by default
To enable it you must pay a fee per month (nothing too high)
For parcels where it is enabled, users may purchase p2p landmarks. If p2p is disabled on a parcel then it may enable this instead, residents pay a small fee to purchase a landmark that TPs them direct to where they want to go, a small portion of this could go to the land-owner as well.
Members of the group for a parcel, or who are on the access list may freely set the land to be their home, and can create p2p landmarks (these are transferable btw).

Keeps p2p teleporting functional, but provides extra sink-holes for L$, if you don't want to pay, then you are TPed to one of the old telehubs instead and can fly like everybody used to in the old days.

To counteract claims of it being too bad a system, users could be allowed a number of free TPs per day (to enabled plots of land). You basically get say...3 for basic and 5 for premium, and the count resets each day. So every day you start off with the max free teleports.

paying to teleport is bad..trust me..

people will just use telehubs again..and thats -still- p2p teleport..the whole system was reworked

No, thats a horrid system too. Limiting p2p to Premiums like they used to could work..but I don't see why they should do it..

As one chart already showed, stipends coming in = around 2 million a WEEK (with todays numbers of residents)

Sinks as of 3 months ago (without those extra residents) - around 2 million out of the system a DAY

Stipends aren't the problem..money sinks aren't the problem. People selling lower and lower values to sell quick MIGHT be.

Oh, I doubt that. Would people enjoy paying L361 for one of my avatars instead of L250? One of the concerns people have is rampant in-game inflation.

In addition, as every merchant knows, updating prices can be a real bear. Most serious merchants have dozens or even hundreds of items-- in vendor spots all over Second Life. This can result in literally thousands of updates if an entire product line needs to be changed.

I've heard the idea of "merchants will just alter prices" as an argument for correcting the economy. Due to the sheer amount of work involved, that is not likely to happen. If it does, you can be dead sure it's not going to be good for the economy.