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Land Access to Land Owners in Busy Sims

Showdog Tiger
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Join date: 30 Nov 2005
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08-27-2006 12:28
Dearly Darlings,

A sick thought just crossed my mind. If you own land in a busy sim there are times when you will be unable to access your home or store. To make sure I was not crazy I did ask via Live Help and a very helpful person with the last name of Linden said, yes....unfortunately...this is the case. This needs to be changed ASAP. What is the point of paying tierage if you cannnot get to your place of business or domcile?

Therefore it is my belief that the set number of persons allowed into a sim should be the total MINUS the number of land owners in the sim plus one guest. Land owners should listed with SL/LL as a land owner and be allowed two avatar per 512 parcel of land they own. Persons or businesses who require more would need to either pay land owners for their avatar allotment or petition SL/LL for more avatars on their property at what ever the going rate for doing that is.

Any discussion?

Ever Yours,

Mrs Showdog Tiger
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Maneo Suntzu
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No Kidding?
08-27-2006 12:30
I had no idea!
Abby Schnook
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What about Parties?
08-27-2006 12:39
I'm not so sure this is the right answer. You already pay for tier...paying to have a party at you house or club too?

And what happens if the owner of the avatar presence wants to charge excessively for the avatar time?
Warda Kawabata
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08-27-2006 13:33
This either ends up charging people for fair usage of resources when the total number of avatars present is below 40 or so, or giving very poor performance for a service that was specifically paid for when the numnber of avatars present gets too high.
NightRider Thunders
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08-27-2006 14:14
Another possible plan.

The landowner can always get in.
The number of non landowning (in that sim) AVs is capped at 40-#landowners.

no extra charges
Kamilah Hauptmann
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Join date: 10 Nov 2005
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08-27-2006 15:31
I run into this all the time. There's a casino and mall near my group's sandbox lot that's stuffed full of camping chairs. Some nights it's a struggle to get in there what with a full sim of campers.

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Jack Harker
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08-27-2006 16:36
Land owners should always be able to get in, even if the system has to boot someone who's already there. There is *no* excuse for someone to bring in so many people that other people aren't able to use their own land.

This is the sort of thing that you should be able to AR on, and why people are complaining about clubs in another thread.
Angel Fluffy
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08-27-2006 18:05
I already have a feature proposal up for discussion about this.
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Chronic Skronski
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08-28-2006 14:48
I should have searched first - I posted a thread here /130/ac/133387/1.html about the same problem. However, this problem can affect people even if there are one or fewer people on each plot in a sim depending on how it is divided.
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Gordon Wendt
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08-28-2006 21:50
From: NightRider Thunders
Another possible plan.

The landowner can always get in.
The number of non landowning (in that sim) AVs is capped at 40-#landowners.

no extra charges


The problem with that is that it's easily bypassed, all you'd have to do is have your land be group deeded and either invite anyone you want to your group or make it open join and tell people if you want guaranteed access to my club/party then join the group otherwise you might hit the limit, if people did that it would be impossible to police effectively.
Elke Banting
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08-29-2006 08:45
When I heard about the cap of 40 per sim I wondered if land owners would be able to get to their parcels on busy sims.

I always log at my house. Does this mean that if there's 40 people in the sim where my house is when I attempt to log in, I wouldn't be able to?
Yumi Murakami
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Join date: 27 Sep 2005
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08-29-2006 09:20
From: Gordon Wendt
The problem with that is that it's easily bypassed, all you'd have to do is have your land be group deeded and either invite anyone you want to your group or make it open join and tell people if you want guaranteed access to my club/party then join the group otherwise you might hit the limit, if people did that it would be impossible to police effectively.


Only people contributing tier to the group's land would be permitted a guaranteed TP.

There is a problem though. It's easy for a sim to have 40 land owners - a sim could easily consist of 40 people each owning a 1024. In fact, this is common in first land sims. If the limit was always in place, then no-one other than the landowners could enter such a sim.

The only real solution I can think of is mobile parcel hosting but I'm sure this would be incrediibly difficult for LL to implement.
Yumi Murakami
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08-29-2006 09:25
From: Elke Banting
When I heard about the cap of 40 per sim I wondered if land owners would be able to get to their parcels on busy sims.

I always log at my house. Does this mean that if there's 40 people in the sim where my house is when I attempt to log in, I wouldn't be able to?


I think that in one of the older versions, if you Home wasn't available, you appeared in the Welcome Area. I'm not sure how that works now with the distributed WAs.