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Flashfire Fox
Registered User
Join date: 23 Feb 2005
Posts: 25
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03-22-2005 19:00
Just wondering, what are the amounts of bonus stipends you get from your rating, like I have +25 (total), just wondering, what would the amount of weekly bonus stipend I get be?
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Flashfire Fox
Registered User
Join date: 23 Feb 2005
Posts: 25
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03-22-2005 19:13
And this is majorly, majorly important for me, since I have a basic account, so I need a reply.
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Lordfly Digeridoo
Prim Orchestrator
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03-22-2005 20:26
basic accounts usually get no more than $L200 lindens a week, with topped out ratings.
Premium accounts (monthly fees) get at least $L500. I get around $L750 or so a week. LF _____________________
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Surina Skallagrimson
Queen of Amazon Nations
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03-23-2005 07:35
The actuall amount of bonus you get is based on how many rate points others have.
You say you have +25 total... if everyone else has +26 you'll get nothing, if everyone else has +24 you'll get the maximum bonus. The amount is based on a table which can be found in the Linden forums. But basically, everyone in the top 50% gets a bonus, increasing in size as they move further up the table. Everyone in the bottom 50% gets nothing. So the question you have to ask yourself is, do I have more rate points than 50% of the population.. _____________________
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Flashfire Fox
Registered User
Join date: 23 Feb 2005
Posts: 25
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03-23-2005 08:00
Oh great, I have to have a higher rating then the other basic players, what a *censored* Rip off.
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Racer Plisskin
Rezerator
Join date: 2 Jan 2005
Posts: 147
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03-23-2005 14:10
Oh great, I have to have a higher rating then the other basic players, what a *censored* Rip off. Just curious, Why do you feel it is a 'ripoff'? After $10 for the first month, you get to play for free, forever... Why do you feel that anyone owes you anything beyond that? Simply take the time to learn how the SL systems work and utilize them to create a service or product that other players would be willing to purchase from you. This will gain you the means to buy anything you want in SL. Well, with the one exception that you can't own land but lots of premium players don't own any either BTW. Please don't take this post the wrong way. I honestly don't understand the viewpoint you are expressing here. Racer P. |
Flashfire Fox
Registered User
Join date: 23 Feb 2005
Posts: 25
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03-25-2005 21:25
Hmm, lets see, objects, vehicles, and shit that cost over 1k when I don't have that kinda money to spend, now if these people would lower the prices of their stuff, I would be more then happy to pay, but when I have to pay 800-1k when I make Jack Squat to pay it off with.
As for making stuff, honestly, I'm sick of people suggesting that. I don't have the time or the talent to make shit, and if I did, I would, but honestly, I don't, and the people who run SL need to quit being so cheap when it comes to basic players. Edit: and sorry for the langage and everything, its just honestly so frustrating when people make their items way over the price range, and when I don't have any money to buy stuff with. |
Patryk Under
Registered User
Join date: 3 Mar 2005
Posts: 45
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Too expensive or too cheap ?
03-25-2005 22:25
Flashfire, you say you don't have time to neither create, design or work to get paid, i would never be willing to put time, work or money in a game where everyone get rich easily, it would lead to insane hyperinflation where over time noone would be willing to do so neither, because everything would only get cheaper. As in real life you have to give something to get something.
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Loki Pico
Registered User
Join date: 20 Jun 2003
Posts: 1,938
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03-25-2005 23:28
You got your lifetime access, so your free to come and go as you wish, forever. Thats your free ride. No one is keeping you from making things to sell or buying L$ from a 3rd party site. I admit that L$50 a week is not a lot of scratch, but what is it costing you?
If you really dig SL, show your support and invest a little and upgrade to premium and get yourself a plot of land and L$500 a week stipend. |
Flashfire Fox
Registered User
Join date: 23 Feb 2005
Posts: 25
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03-26-2005 09:38
You got your lifetime access, so your free to come and go as you wish, forever. Thats your free ride. No one is keeping you from making things to sell or buying L$ from a 3rd party site. I admit that L$50 a week is not a lot of scratch, but what is it costing you? If you really dig SL, show your support and invest a little and upgrade to premium and get yourself a plot of land and L$500 a week stipend. Oh yeah, put more IRL money into the game when I also have to pay for things like gas (which is getting F****ing higher and higher everyday) and crap like that, I don't think so. I personally think that the basic stipends should be raised higher, higher! |
Flashfire Fox
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Join date: 23 Feb 2005
Posts: 25
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03-26-2005 09:46
Flashfire, you say you don't have time to neither create, design or work to get paid, i would never be willing to put time, work or money in a game where everyone get rich easily, it would lead to insane hyperinflation where over time noone would be willing to do so neither, because everything would only get cheaper. As in real life you have to give something to get something. To bad that doesn't happen anyways, cause I don't have any way to make money, and the F***ing vendors want a f***ing fortune for their avatars, vehicles and shit, and well, thats money that I don't have to spend on them, if you don't want everyone to be rich, then you should want the people who make the items to make them cheaper. |
Schwanson Schlegel
SL's Tokin' Villain
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Posts: 2,721
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03-26-2005 10:04
I agree with Flashfire. Until the gas prices come down, LL should increase our stipends.
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daz Groshomme
Artist *nuff said*
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Posts: 711
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my 2L cents
03-26-2005 10:51
I'm new, I purchased the premium account, it won't break me as I'm an adult who has a job.
I've purchased lots of things, including my first land, a giant spider avatar and some clothes (though I can't find standard combat boots arrgh) and still have over 1000 L, I've gone to clubs, realized I suck at tringo and met some amazingly cool and creative people. I think that you really do have to contribute in some way to get the most out of SL, wether it be with creating things or commenting on things you've seen or simply talking (politely) to people you randomly meet. _____________________
daz is the SL pet of Sukkubus Phaeton
daz is the RL friend of Sukkubus Phaeton Sukkubus Phaeton, RL, is the official super-model for the artist SLy and RLy known as daz! daz is missing the SL action because he needs a G5 badly |
Lordfly Digeridoo
Prim Orchestrator
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Posts: 3,628
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03-27-2005 08:35
To bad that doesn't happen anyways, cause I don't have any way to make money, and the F***ing vendors want a f***ing fortune for their avatars, vehicles and shit, and well, thats money that I don't have to spend on them, if you don't want everyone to be rich, then you should want the people who make the items to make them cheaper. I'm not going to sell my prefabs (which took hours of time to build) for a dollar just because you can't afford it. If you can't afford to play SL, either financially or with time invested, then perhaps it isn't for you. LF _____________________
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jester Knox
Sculpter of Water
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Posts: 204
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03-27-2005 08:59
when i started SL almost a year ago i thought 1,000 lindens was allot of in game cash. on a basic account saving 1,000L is hard. spent my first 2 months exploring, spending next to nothing and making some friends. a friend got me to start building, and i started finding free markets to sell stuff at. i now sell stuff orders of magnitude better and yes some things i make are priced way out of the range of newbies on basic accounts. some things i make, especially large custom builds are expensive even if all the L$ you have are from a premium stipend. for many creators the target customers arent basic members, i.e. if you are on basic you have no land, therefore no where to put a fountain i make.
one thing you mentioned you can afford are vehicles pointing out their 800-1,000L prices. have you looked around really well? i really like vehicles, yes i have paid 1000L for some of the vehicles i have, but many were in the 200-500 range, some great ones were freebies. some have been free just from being in the right place at the right time and being nice to someone. SL has an economy, there are creators (producers) and consumers. many people are both, some don't, can't, or won't create, they just consume. the L$ to do that must come from somewhere, if it comes from LL then there is just inflation. there are 3 ways for you to make more cash in SL. one takes time, become a creator, its not that hard to get started and make enough pocket change to start buying the things you want. the other 2 take real $$, get a premium account, or buy L$ on GOM. if thats not good enough maybe SL isnt the game for you, but remember that for your $10 you play forever, and there is an enormous amount of free content to be had, to see, and things to do. jester . _____________________
people tell me my fountains are cool, come check them out at JesAma Fountains, Alviso (190,45) or if you arent in SL try Gigas (secondserver.net) or SLBoutique to shop for my products.
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prak Curie
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Join date: 4 Jun 2004
Posts: 346
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03-29-2005 23:07
I personally think that the basic stipends should be raised higher, higher! http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Inflation _____________________
-prak
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Patryk Under
Registered User
Join date: 3 Mar 2005
Posts: 45
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Don't like it ? Don't buy it.
03-30-2005 01:35
To bad that doesn't happen anyways, cause I don't have any way to make money, and the F***ing vendors want a f***ing fortune for their avatars, vehicles and shit, and well, thats money that I don't have to spend on them, if you don't want everyone to be rich, then you should want the people who make the items to make them cheaper. You know, the problem with general pricing is that a group of people is always willing/not-willing to pay the price. And i doubt one person can change the world just with his words, if you wanna change the prices, start a making things and dump the price making everyone elses prices to a joke. |
Jamie Bergman
SL's Largest Distributor
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Posts: 1,752
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04-01-2005 14:10
I'm not sure why posts like this get to me. Maybe its because in my head I translate what the person says into what (s)he actually means. I run a store - its tough work - and yes, I make money at it. I enjoy it, its rewarding, but it takes time and effort. I guess to me, what the poster is actually saying sounds like this:
I'm lazy and have a self-aggrandized image. I refuse to work in SL to earn L$ and I refuse to work IRL to earn RW$ to convert to L$. I paid an insignificant one-time fee and I expect the world to jump when I talk. My time is far too valuable to learn to script, build, or retail - but I know that you losers have nothing better to do than spend endless hours scripting and building. How dare you attempt to charge the equivelant of $4 usd for your ultra-cool car or $2.50 for a kick-arse weapon. You should be GIVING your work to me. And since you're not, I'm going to piss and moan about it because I'm under the false impression that what I say and think actually carries some clout. Just my take on it XD |
Carl Altman
Second Life Resident
Join date: 23 Nov 2004
Posts: 16
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04-01-2005 14:25
Jamie has pegged it perfectly. The big "problem" with SL is it is a lot like RL: the amounts of nothing you can get for something are limited. If you like the cool stuff people spend time to make, you either have to spend time to make stuff yourself, pay RL cash to have a better account, or be REALLY nice to people, so you get a higher stipend AND SO THEY GIVE YOU STUFF.
I was given a LOT of wonderful stuff by my fellow SL players, back before I spent much RL money in the game. I was given some really nice clothes I could not have afforded, and all kinds of other stuff. Basically, just being nice and helpful to people has it's reward. Of course, some folks never learn this lesson in RL, so why should SL be any different? |
Schwanson Schlegel
SL's Tokin' Villain
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Posts: 2,721
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04-01-2005 14:33
But gas is so damn expensive right now. LL should really increase our stipends to compensate for this.
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daz Groshomme
Artist *nuff said*
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Posts: 711
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04-01-2005 14:56
Jamie has pegged it perfectly. The big "problem" with SL is it is a lot like RL: the amounts of nothing you can get for something are limited. If you like the cool stuff people spend time to make, you either have to spend time to make stuff yourself, pay RL cash to have a better account, or be REALLY nice to people, so you get a higher stipend AND SO THEY GIVE YOU STUFF. I was given a LOT of wonderful stuff by my fellow SL players, back before I spent much RL money in the game. I was given some really nice clothes I could not have afforded, and all kinds of other stuff. Basically, just being nice and helpful to people has it's reward. Of course, some folks never learn this lesson in RL, so why should SL be any different? _____________________
daz is the SL pet of Sukkubus Phaeton
daz is the RL friend of Sukkubus Phaeton Sukkubus Phaeton, RL, is the official super-model for the artist SLy and RLy known as daz! daz is missing the SL action because he needs a G5 badly |
Margaret Mfume
I.C.
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04-01-2005 15:29
I agree with Flashfire. Until the gas prices come down, LL should increase our stipends. Yea, and what about about rent, huh? I have to pay that now cuz my parents say i got to pay them or get out and i don't see why i should pay them when they already have a house with enough room for me. that's why they bought it in the 1st place so i could live there with them for free and all. so those lindens should make me rich or make those ppl who sell things cheaper so i can have kewl stuff here. since i can't have it in rl and all _____________________
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Margaret Mfume
I.C.
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04-01-2005 15:36
But gas is so damn expensive right now. LL should really increase our stipends to compensate for this. ...and diapers, do those Lindens know how much diapers cost? Congrats on the little newbie, Schwanson _____________________
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Prokofy Neva
Virtualtor
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Posts: 3,698
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04-01-2005 16:26
Premium accounts (monthly fees) get at least $L500. I get around $L750 or so a week. LF I'm not going to sell my prefabs (which took hours of time to build) for a dollar just because you can't afford it. LF ![]() People think I make this stuff up, about the subsidized FIC and their market attitudes after being subsidized (by having built up plusses on their character back when plusses didn't cost anything, and just by sheer age). It's OK to charge a lot for good houses. But a snarky attitude to a newb that isn't subsidized like you in the Linden socialism but is living under the Linden Social Darwinism shouldn't get such a snide remark. _____________________
Rent stalls and walls for $25-$50/week 25-50 prims from Ravenglass Rentals, the mall alternative.
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daz Groshomme
Artist *nuff said*
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Posts: 711
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04-01-2005 17:09
![]() People think I make this stuff up, about the subsidized FIC and their market attitudes after being subsidized (by having built up plusses on their character back when plusses didn't cost anything, and just by sheer age). It's OK to charge a lot for good houses. But a snarky attitude to a newb that isn't subsidized like you in the Linden socialism but is living under the Linden Social Darwinism shouldn't get such a snide remark. _____________________
daz is the SL pet of Sukkubus Phaeton
daz is the RL friend of Sukkubus Phaeton Sukkubus Phaeton, RL, is the official super-model for the artist SLy and RLy known as daz! daz is missing the SL action because he needs a G5 badly |