Linden Labs Says (Raise Prices)

Ok then LL, I will.
http://www.keepsmilinggames.com/

Hahaha... You said, "They remained slaves in unconquered states".
Did you expect the South to care about the freeing of slaves?
Obviously the North had to send its Army South to defeat the
rebellion which in turn would turn a former slave state free.

Second, the North didn't want Britian for France to enter the
war and side with the south. Everything came down to preception
of victory and ability to sustain itself. That battle was Antietam.
The Europeans told the south, one more victory and we will join
the war on your side. Mainly because they wanted that Cotton. And
cotton in the 1860s was like Oil in 2006. But at Antietam, the south
failed to advance beyond Sharpsburg and was pushed back across
the Potomac. Signally defeat, although most will argue a draw.

In any case, the South didn't walk away with a victory, the
Europeans didn't back a loser, and from there on out, everything
was down hill for the South. They did try a last ditch effort to invade
the north in 1863 and lost at the battle of Gettysburg. But with out
industrial and economic support from Europe, the South's deaths
was assured. And along with it, Slavery.

except in the North. Until a constitutional admendment - the REAL death of forced slavery in the US.

Jan 1, 1863 - President Lincoln issues the final Emancipation Proclamation freeing all slaves in territories held by Confederates and emphasizes the enlisting of black soldiers in the Union Army. The war to preserve the Union now becomes a revolutionary struggle for the abolition of slavery.


1864/11/01
Maryland slaves emancipated by State Constitution of 1864. (Maryland Historical Chronology )
1865 Amendment XIII. Slavery abolished.
Proposed by Congress Jan. 31, 1865; ratified Dec. 6, 1865. The amendment, when first proposed by a resolution in Congress, was passed by the Senate, 38 to 6, on Apr. 8, 1864, but was defeated in the House, 95 to 66 on June 15, 1864. On reconsideration by the House, on Jan. 31, 1865, the resolution passed, 119 to 56. It was approved by President Lincoln on Feb. 1, 1865, although the Supreme Court had decided in 1798 that the President has nothing to do with the proposing of amendments to the Constitution, or their adoption.)
1. Neither slavery nor involuntary servitude, except as a punishment for crime whereof the party shall have been duly convicted, shall exist within the United States, or any place subject to their jurisdiction.
2. Congress shall have power to enforce this article by appropriate legislation. (The World Almanac and Book of Facts 1996, from MS Bookshelf.)

Andrew Johnson, Democratic/National Union Party becomes President


The District of Columbia Emancipation Act

Lincoln was certainly not an abolitionist. He found slavery personally abhorrent, but ending it was not his first priority. He was in many ways what we would consider in modern terms a typical cautious liberal -- a compromiser on serious moral issues, only moving on them when pushed by social movements. As a Congressman, he was opposed to the Mexican War (which was designed to add slave territory) but still voted to finance it. He would not speak publicly against the Fugitive Slave Act, wrote to a friend "I confess I hate to see the poor creatures hunted down...but I bite my lips and keep quiet." He was a lawyer, with a legalistic approach to slavery: the Constitution did not give the federal government the power to interfere with slavery in the states. The District of Columbia was not a state, and he did offer a resolution, while in Congress, to abolish slavery there, but accompanied this with a fugitive slave provision that escaped slaves coming into D.C. must be returned. Wendell Phillips, the militant Boston abolitionist, called Lincoln "that slavehound from Illinois". During the Civil War he would not do anything about slavery for fear of alienating the states fighting on the side of the North which still had slavery, said plainly that his main aim in the war was not to end slavery but to get the South back into the Union, and would do this even if it meant retaining slavery. The Whig Party which became the Republican Party which elected Lincoln represented economic interests which wanted a large country with a huge market for goods, with high tariffs to protect manufactures (which Southern states opposed). The South stood in the way of capitalist expansion. If you look at the legislation passed by Congress during the War, with the South no longer an obstacle, you see the economic interests: Railroad subsidies, high tariffs, contract labor law to bring in immigrant workers for cheap labor and to use as strikebreakers, a national bank putting the government in a partnership with banking interests. The Emancipation Proclamation was a weak document for freeing slaves, but did have great moral force. I deal with all this in my book A Peoples History Of The United States. There's an excellent chapter on Lincoln in Richard Hofstadter's book The American Political Tradition. (Howard Zinn, A Selection of Zinn's Posts from the ZinnZine Forum)

Ooops. I belive you need to study a bit more.

I don't even want to try to figure out how a thread about raising prices turned into an argument about slavery.

Sir, people like you will kill the Linden dead, which I have to remind you, has no value outside of the Second Life GAME. Linden Labs needs to stop the speculative trading in Lindens. Your name itself is suggestive of this activity on your part.



I could care less if the Linden does the way to the passenger pigeon. The deflation that will be caused by the withdraw of the stipend will make you money at first but as the supply of Lindens goes down and the price of content goes up the economy of Second Life will start to wind down.



Remember children, you do not need to buy content to play Second Life. There can be play in Second Life without any Lindens at all!

Post number 5. I try to educate people on the era as many seem to think I am racist for honoring my fallen ancestors' bravery and standing up for what they believed.

Aye, I think that should be taken over to PM...
We don't need to see two men comparing the SIZE of their "Historical Knowledge" in Public.

Another way to look at the current trent is that $L is just seeking its true value and the economy is adjusting to a new level. Assuming residents stays in SL, it will reach a point where the influx of money supply will match the needs economical growth and the value of $L will stablize. Question is how many "casualities" (failed businesses, pissed off residents, etc) would that cause?

A worst case scenario is that if the change is too sudden, it may cause a mass exodus of residents and cause a more catastrophic failue.

Forget 250 and 270, IMO 300 is still too good; 330 is more like it.

There might be... but if the content creators all see their efforts going unrewarded (and lets face it, that reward is generally L) then all those content creators will find their time and effort best served elsewhere.

Ive talked to two content creators lately who were saying how they were getting tired of the mess things are in, the loss of money, etc... and how they were probably leaving SL soon

What is SL without the content?

I met a noob yesterday and shockingly she had nothing to ask me about L, Lindex or these forums! She asked for fun places to visit and things to do.

Without content there is no SL.

(BTW Im definitely not screaming for stipends to be taken away... and I also love the fact you called these threads baka, it gave me a giggle)

I disagree with you. There is so much stuff out there now it is unreal. Yes not all of it is stolden from content providers. Remember we can all be our own content providers. I do agree that SL will not be the same as today and maybe not as much fun for a lot of residents.

There has to be a way to make all parties happy. One thing would be to do a redo on how to find content providers. The "find" function is totally useless. I would like to buy a business suit for my alvater but can not find a shop. The best thing for content providers would be to raise the volume of their sales and not prices but getting customers and sellors coinnected is the problem.

Happy I was able to get a giggle from you.

there is a lot of stuff there NOW, yes... but it worries me to hear creative people talking about leaving SL. Please explain this: "not all of it is stolen from content providers"? I dont get what you mean. And yes I create a lot of my own content. If I want something I can make... I make it. I don't buy it. I cant AFFORD it.

No one is able to make everyone happy, as my darling love constantly tells me when I try.

BTW was that just an example or do you really want a business suit?

I agree, I wish there was a more formidable search engine instead of the crazy find we have now.

*looks down* Im wearing my baka shirt as I type!

Except it's not welfare on premium accounts.



You have proof, or is this just more mindless babble?

Lewis

True - but they won't - indeed the Lindex features just introduced actually encourage it.



Oh? Please share your method of uploading textures, required for skins and clothing and other things we are going to make, without charge...

So has anyone ever tracked how many new threads are created a day on the issue of stipends and the falling L$?


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Bring back ratings bonuses, increase dwell income!!!

You don't need to do any of that stuff to enjoy SL. The default sliders can make adequate looking avatars and clothing for personal use. There are default textures provided for those who would like to fool around with building. Scripting is free. And, as always, using SL as a giant chatroom costs nothing.

Everything beyond use of the tools provided just comes down to personal vanity.

You are funny I am refering to the thread as foolish and not your shirts If you want to see bad look at mine made with the tools.

It is an exsample and a need. I had to buy a mens suit to have business clothing. True I dont wear it that often but it looks a little strange.

ah i meant my shirt irl... since sl is down. However in sl im wearing a very groovy stormtrooper hoodie! I love wearing men's suits, its a bit unique from the hootchie clothes that i see most female avis wear. Ill have to take a look at your things when sl is back up... unless theyre on sle?

/gets the thread back on track

I upped prices on my cheapest (best selling) items 50% a couple of weeks ago, and the more expensive stuff approx 15-20%. But I still consider my prices very reasonable.

I've had no slowdown in sales, only more L$ in my account. And just one complaint from a customer that was angry and refused to pay more than he would have paid if he had been a week quicker to decide.

I am at work aand have been posting in my spare time. I was thinking about something like the below.

Yes this thread has been taken over by the Office Girls!

Linden Labs has no direct stake in the value of the linden dollar. Meanwhile those of us who earn lindens and sell them to pay the tier fees and island maintenance fees are advised that we should raise our prices in order to accomplish this. Based on the last week's performance this looks like 25% per month price increases or even higher. I challenge Linden Labs to take a direct stake in the value of the Linden dollar by accepting tier and maintenance fees at a fixed price in Lindens. I do not care at what rate they set this but the price in Lindens should be invariant. Then they too will care about inflation as something other than an amusing academic exercise. Too, it will create the additional sink people are wishing for.

You do understand that your sales will suffer? The more you raise prices the less demand there will be for your content? Thus you are hurting yourself by your actions. You do understand the concept of supply and demand? Also our stipends are losing value as well. If you raise your prices your sales will decrease and perhaps you will make less money than before the price increase.

Greetings, Ranma.

I urge you to read posts before replying to them

Look at that GLUT: Total L$ Supply (L$) 682,168,738


Just two weeks ago it was L$650, then L$672k


When does it end?

There won't be less demand because the decline in Linden Dollar
Value has put more L$ into people's pockets. Making the price increase, mute.

If they don't increase prices, then whatever they sell decreases in value at
the same rate the L$ declines. A Widget worth L$250 in Oct 2005 is now worth
L$190 in May 2006 dollars. Unless the retailer raises the price from L$250 to L$320.
Then the rise will compensate for the valuation decline due to the money inflation
that Linden Labs has plagued us with.

Well my stipend is still only L$500. I am not going to get more Lindens. Price increases mean not buying as much as before. If I have no stipend then no purchases. Why the frak do I have to buy Lindens with real money to support you? It is not going to happen baka otoko. I pay enough to Linden Labs every month in the form of tier.

It is a fact that when prices increase demand drops. Also we dont have to buy content. Make prices high enough or make them pay in real money and either they will do without or make it themselves. I am going to mod my own hair. Should be a lot of fun! I think I am going to pocket my stipend from now on. When I have enough Lindens sell them