Do you really think taking away a $50 a week stepend from basic accounts will matter?

Most of us dont even have the rating to get the entire L$50 a week anyway. Cutting it won't make a dent in the economy's slide. You've got a bigger problem which requires a bigger solution.

Seriously, don't pay any attention to these people talking about cutting the stipend. They're nuts, and the Lindens aren't stupid. It won't happen.

I'd like to believe you, but they already killed (rather than nerfed) the rep bonus, and killed the DI...

Well, it wasn't the nutcase forum "economists" who killed those things, it was wholesale abuse....

Don't be so sure.

You seem to be trying to convince yourself...and doing a good job at it

Anyways, Leave open the possibility that anything is possible. I dont want you to be heartbroken when it happens.

I wouldn't lose any sleep over it, really.

Are you sure?

Pretty sure, yes.

So you wont be mad at me when they take it away?

Not at all. You won't be mad at me when they don't?

No, I understand your position and I dont hold it against you one bit.

Listen to this voice of reason.. The "Anti-Stipend Party" is
working day and night to lobby Linden Labs to cut the
stipends...

I think we are making much more headway than the
"Pro-Stipend Party" with their lies and mindless postings
of how they "Pay for Stipends".. Hahahahahha

Glad to see the competition has weak support.

The Day of the Stipend Axe is coming... Time to kick the
Anti-Stipend Lobby into full gear to nail that last coffin nail
home.

No one really thinks it is a great idea except a few people and their sock puppets.

Back to the original question (I know, I am boring ):

Of course it "will matter". LOL Every month there are some 25 Million L$ entering the economy as stipends for Basic Account holders and another 25 Million L$ coming in as stipends for Premium Account holders. Do you honestly think that cutting away half of the supply of freshly printed money would have no effect on the economy?

Disclaimer: This is no argument pro or contra a stipend cut. Just some purely numerical facts.

You Tell'm Pham..

Hey Siggy, got a response to Pham's remarks?
Hahahaha..... Speechless when confronted with the truth.

I don't know who did, but they didn't need to kill them to stop the wholesale abuse.

There are more people who think its a great idea than some, and their sock puppets, want to accept or believe. The covering of eyes and ears in the face of reality does nothing to quell truths.

Puhleeeese, RDB.

All I was stating were some numbers and some obvious dependencies. Of course it would have an influence on the economy and the exchange rate if the sum of all stipends were cut in half.

If such a move would be beneficial - long term - to the economy of SL is hard to judge. The exchange rate is just one parameter of the economy. Economies are much too complex systems to easily predict what will happen if you fiddle around with one parameter. We are no talking high school math here.

No, don't do that...

They can't handle the pure numerical facts.

No on my way home from work ..

and my response would be:

Where is the figure for how many *ACTIVE* basic accounts derived?

I'd like to see where that data comes from.

But eh Alby - I know I won't get it from you - you're just the same old song and dance. At least Pham is getting some data to back up their opinion, which is why I'll probably think about what they say - where as you I'll just dismiss as a buffoon.

Wonderful Siggy, the same goal is still accomplished.
In the end, regardless of who you listen to, your mindset
will back the same policy of Ending Stipends and revamping
the economic model of SL.

I thank you for you support... Lucky my Pham Alt has swayed you.
Hahahahaha... And it very entertaining to debate myself, only to
have Siggy so confused, he/she/it ends up supporting me. lol

i see some people are under a big misconception(sp)..

the rating system wasnt effected because 12 people came on the forums and ranted about it. LL made the adjustments to the rating system because it was being abused and it wasnt being used for the purpose it was intented for. yes im sure they seen what people concerns were and looked into it and found that yes it was being abused.. had they looked into it and decided that it was working like it was meant to they would have not changed it.

Same with the DI, and from my understanding it was never something they intended to have in place forever that was gonna get taken out eventually with or without rants. Again the DI is also being abused by people..


For the time being the stipens are not being abused since there is no limit to how long you can remain on basic or a limit to how long you would recieve a stipen on basic there very little room for abuse. Also there is nothing etched in stone stating that basic account are meant for people to test SL and then upgrade if that was the case once you upgraded they wouldnt give you the option to downgrade back to basic or there would be a limit to how long someone could play for free. Yes im sure they do want people people to upgrade eventually and im sure thats the hope they have, but as it stands right now there is no requirement or demand that one has to upgrade..





your right on that. Free accounts arent gonna be around forever. Fincially thats unrealistic. as sl grows the needs for staff and equipment grows and the maintmence of the equipment and the resources needed to run the equipment grows..

there is a very small amount if any mmpog(could have the abbv. wrong to early in the am) that give free account for your lifetime of playing there. So eventually there wil only be basic trials.

As far as the 50L stipen i cant see them doing much about it basicly cause there no abuse being done to it and the biggest fight right now is that of you want your L$ to go for a better amount of USD in the lindenx. If you want change to that you need to start proven that either:

A) its being abused ( and i dont mean people are getting linden for free because thats part of the plan for being on basic)

or

B) prove that if taking away the 50L would benifit LL more then hurt them ( and i dont mean assuming people will just upgrade have actual facts to that)

Ratings have no effect on stipend currently. Read this.

This post really needs to be updated.

One thing that has mystified me about the cry to eliminate the basic stipend is this:

How does making the majority of players penniless benefit the economy?