SL Feature Voting Awareness

Hello everyone!

I'm here to announce a new group in Second Life, "SL Feature Voting Awareness".

Here is the group charter :


Some additional information I can't fit into the charter :

A) What this group is for, in detail.
This group has 3 purposes :
* to encourage more residents to use the FVT to submit helpful and constructive feedback to LL about how SL can be improved.
* to encourage LL to look hard at residents' suggestions on the FVT and where good ideas are proposed, implement them.
* to be a badge of pride residents can wear that says "I voted and I care about SL's future".

B) Who to contact about this group / the FVT.
* Whilst we have several Linden Community Managers in the group, including Torley and Jean, this is a group mostly intended for residents. The Lindens are there because they are interested in it and/or want to help support it.
* Thus if you have any questions or suggestions about *this group*, you should contact me about them, instead of the Lindens.
* If you have a question about the FVT itself, it would probably be best to use the Linden Answers forum to ask it. Or, alternatively, you could try emailing the relevant Linden directly. When asking in Linden Answers, if you know any other people asking a similar question, please link to them so that the Linden can answer all the questions at once and more easily.
* If, you have a suggestion for how to make the FVT better, I would suggest posting your suggestion to the Feature Suggestions forum, then using the feedback and constructive criticism received there to improving your idea, then finally emailing the best version of your idea to the Lindens. I'm obviously interested in new ways to improve the FVT, but I'm not a Linden so can't do much with them other than forward them onto the Lindens. So, your idea has more chance of being noticed and acted upon if you first use debate to improve it, then email it directly to the relevant Lindens. I suggest using email to contact the Lindens, as this is often the fastest and most reliable way. If in doubt, check the Linden's profile and see what suggestions they make about how to contact them.

C) Please don't IM this group.
For any questions/suggestions about this group, please contact me. For questions/suggestions about the FVT, please contact the responsible Linden(s).
The reasons I ask you not to IM the group are :
* It is better to debate/propose ideas on The Feature Suggestions Forum than within IM sessions for this group, as the forums are more public, easier to reference and better at organising ideas into coherent threads. To make this very, very clear I like and encourage debate, I just think that debate belongs on the forums as the forums are a better place for it.
* We want to keep spam on the group to a minimum, to avoid bugging our members. This goes double for our Linden members, who get a huge amount of IMs already. Some Lindens already state that email is the best way to contact them, and as several are members of this group, we're limiting IMs on the group to avoid spamming our members.


So, in summary :
If you want to encourage others to vote on the FVT, or Lindens to look harder at what is on the FVT, then please join this group. Membership is a badge of pride to say "I voted, and I want my vote to count!".

Thanks for your time in reading this, and for supporting the idea

Stickied this for excellent--I'm startled it hasn't been done earlier, but I'm happy you're taking the initiative, Angel.

All your energy put into furthering the FTV to make it more useful, and I hope, results will be more visible too.

And yes thank you so much for including that bit about emailing me, with so much info, it's important to organize. That in itself has dear parallels to the FTV itself, so we can prioritize and clearly see what's important to the community at large. With furthered usage, hopefully this will become more apparent.

Again, Angel, thanx for doing this.

As I've posted on the blog, I believe bugzilla is the right tool for this job (and others).

It can replace:

1. Feature voting
2. Internal bug tracking
3. Known Issues
4. Long technical blog posts or known issues on blog


The key is to have two parts to the bugzilla, one that is used internally by LL but is read-only to the public. The other part is completely public and has voting enabled. As features and bugs are accepted for development, they would migrate to the other side.

It would also mean automatic transparency of LL development processes, something widely called for and appreciated.

Bugzilla I believe supports hiding bugs from the public in the case of a security sensitive issue. I know Artifex does this with their bugzilla.

It also supports dependancy relationships between bugs, and merging duplicates.

I can't really see any downside. It would replace 4 marginal and maintenence intensive programs with one streamlined one designed for the job. Please give this serious consideration.

I have an idea:

To avoid people posting double-triple-multiple times the same exact/variation of the same proposal, force everyone to read other similar proposals first.

Here is how it is done:

a front page, which includes links to all gategories (ALL NAVIGATION ON featurevoting only through this page)

You are able to make new proposal only after selecting the correct gategory and after reading (scrolling down) a shorthand list of all titles of already made proposals.

In that way no-one is able to make new proposal without knowing if there is similar proposal already existing.

A MUST: on the front page there is links to all gategories+one link to "suggest new gategory" a email notification to the correct Linden about suggestion on new gategory...a quick throw into trash bin for suggestion titles already denied.

NO MISCELLANEOUS gategory, or you´d end up having all proposals in there

Currently, the LIndens have blessed jira as the official way of submitting bug-reports and feature suggestions, but no-one uses it.

I guess it's just another example of the 80/20 rule, but even more extreme This is sad, because, from what I have read, the Lindens DO use voting to help prioritze issues, both for bug-fixes and for feature-requests.

Vote folks. It's YOUR Second Life, afterall...

If only that were true.

Sadly, that old vision is gone, and what's left is a 3D version of First Life, directed by FL business needs and controlled by FL political correctness. Welcome to the businessverse.

By all means vote. The illusion of control has some value, at least for stress relief.

Morg.

The words of one who has lost their creative vision...

Can someone show me where the sl voting area is to vote on proposals and see what proposals linden likes ? I cant find it anymore ... Where is it?

Elinah

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