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Xemnas Claar

Made Lady sing the blues

Join date: 17 Jul 2006

Posts: 32

07-19-2006 12:30

From: Draco18s Majestic

Infinite 20,000 m/sec verticle orbit at the drop of a hat just because the person enjoys watching people fight over camping chairs.
Ok, so I wanted some cash and was in Vardamir's Casino where Zach has his chairs set to timer(5 min) {50% -> money += 7; 50% -> money = 0}, so, I basically have to stand up every 5 minutes.
This woman comes in and takes the chair not ever bothering to stand to collect her L$7 because she, quote, "loves watching people fight for camping chairs." After asking her to move and telling Zach that she was being a b*tch, she orbitted me at 20,000 m/sec up. Entire sim, constant, unending.
I reported her for abuse 3 times over the course of two hours and had Zach ban her from his land.

THIS IS NOT A LEGITAMATE USE FOR PUSH
It did not require my consent. It doesn't make any sense to be blown to the moon in 2 minutes. It was abusive--she didn't even SCRIPT it infront of me, just, heck I DIDN'T EVEN SEE HER DROP AN OBJECT or fire a gun, I was just gone.

THIS SHOULD NOT HAPPEN.

No, no it shouldn't.

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Tre Giles

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Join date: 16 Dec 2005

Posts: 294

07-22-2006 13:55

Its Happening! Its Happening!

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Argent Stonecutter

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Join date: 20 Sep 2005

Posts: 20,263

07-22-2006 18:33

From: Kelly Linden

I honestly don't know about llGroupInvite and llGroupEject. These have some technical hurdles. It is potentially very difficult for an object to know the groups it's owner is in or their status in those groups when that person is not in the same sim. We would have to cache this information in the object, but what happens when it changes?

Do the same thing you do with everything else that has to go offsim for info, make it a dataserver event.

key group_id = llRequestGroupAction(string group_name, integer action, key id);

Then in the dataserver event, you get a message that tells you whether your owner has the rights (yes, no, try again), and "try again" means "I didn't have your owner's rights cached, retry the operation".

From: someone

I don't think I agree on a philosophical level with programatical group invites. I don't want to see newbie spammers to create the largest groups.

Have a limit (40, 50, whatever the max is for the sim the script's in) for the number of people who can be 'programatically' added to a group. That lets you auto-invite as many people will fit in the parcel that they need to fit in.

Angel Fluffy

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Join date: 3 Mar 2006

Posts: 810

07-23-2006 04:47

What about having a L$10 charge to the script owner, for each group invite which is declined by the recipient?
That would do a lot to combat group invite spam, and provide a sink to the economy too.

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Tre Giles

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Join date: 16 Dec 2005

Posts: 294

07-24-2006 10:29

From: Angel Fluffy

What about having a L$10 charge to the script owner, for each group invite which is declined by the recipient?
That would do a lot to combat group invite spam, and provide a sink to the economy too.

Great Idea

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EVERYTHING That LL Needs to Update about Groups In a Nutshell
Xemnas Claar Made Lady sing the blues Join date: 17 Jul 2006 Posts: 32	07-19-2006 12:30 From: Draco18s Majestic Infinite 20,000 m/sec verticle orbit at the drop of a hat just because the person enjoys watching people fight over camping chairs. Ok, so I wanted some cash and was in Vardamir's Casino where Zach has his chairs set to timer(5 min) {50% -> money += 7; 50% -> money = 0}, so, I basically have to stand up every 5 minutes. This woman comes in and takes the chair not ever bothering to stand to collect her L$7 because she, quote, "loves watching people fight for camping chairs." After asking her to move and telling Zach that she was being a btch, she orbitted me at 20,000 m/sec up. Entire sim, constant, unending. I reported her for abuse 3 times over the course of two hours and had Zach ban her from his land. THIS IS NOT A LEGITAMATE USE FOR PUSH* It did not require my consent. It doesn't make any sense to be blown to the moon in 2 minutes. It was abusive--she didn't even SCRIPT it infront of me, just, heck I DIDN'T EVEN SEE HER DROP AN OBJECT or fire a gun, I was just gone. THIS SHOULD NOT HAPPEN. No, no it shouldn't. _____________________ I am the stone that the builder refused... I am the visual, the inspiration That made Lady Sing the Blues... The story that just begun... I am the promise of what's to come... And I'll a remain a soldier 'til the griefer war is won. OMFG I FOUND HACKS TO SECONDLIFE ON GOOGLE??? Hacks!!!? Found on google lmao!
Tre Giles Registered User Join date: 16 Dec 2005 Posts: 294	07-22-2006 13:55 Its Happening! Its Happening! _____________________ "The Dirt Gods Are Pleased" OMFG I FOUND HACKS TO SECONDLIFE ON GOOGLE??? Hacks!!!? Found on google lmao!
Argent Stonecutter Emergency Mustelid Join date: 20 Sep 2005 Posts: 20,263	07-22-2006 18:33 From: Kelly Linden I honestly don't know about llGroupInvite and llGroupEject. These have some technical hurdles. It is potentially very difficult for an object to know the groups it's owner is in or their status in those groups when that person is not in the same sim. We would have to cache this information in the object, but what happens when it changes? Do the same thing you do with everything else that has to go offsim for info, make it a dataserver event. key group_id = llRequestGroupAction(string group_name, integer action, key id); Then in the dataserver event, you get a message that tells you whether your owner has the rights (yes, no, try again), and "try again" means "I didn't have your owner's rights cached, retry the operation". From: someone I don't think I agree on a philosophical level with programatical group invites. I don't want to see newbie spammers to create the largest groups. Have a limit (40, 50, whatever the max is for the sim the script's in) for the number of people who can be 'programatically' added to a group. That lets you auto-invite as many people will fit in the parcel that they need to fit in.
Angel Fluffy Very Helpful Join date: 3 Mar 2006 Posts: 810	07-23-2006 04:47 What about having a L$10 charge to the script owner, for each group invite which is declined by the recipient? That would do a lot to combat group invite spam, and provide a sink to the economy too. _____________________ Volunteer Portal (FAQs!) : https://wiki.secondlife.com/wiki/Volunteer_Portal JIRA / Issue Tracker : http://jira.secondlife.com (& http://tinyurl.com/2jropp)
Tre Giles Registered User Join date: 16 Dec 2005 Posts: 294	07-24-2006 10:29 From: Angel Fluffy What about having a L$10 charge to the script owner, for each group invite which is declined by the recipient? That would do a lot to combat group invite spam, and provide a sink to the economy too. Great Idea _____________________ "The Dirt Gods Are Pleased" OMFG I FOUND HACKS TO SECONDLIFE ON GOOGLE??? Hacks!!!? Found on google lmao!

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