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SL was yesterday, PS3 HOME is the future?

Rant Clayton
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03-13-2007 02:53
Impressive trailer about the upcoming PS3 SL clone called "HOME"

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kyquAXKeEI0
Haravikk Mistral
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03-13-2007 03:26
It doesn't look like it's an open-economy with the ability to build and sell things yourself. All of it sounds like you have to pay for it from the creators of Home.
I think it's intended more as it says, for finding games to play by meeting people in the pre-made worlds.
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Colette Meiji
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03-13-2007 07:33
Does anyone think Sony will give people the same freedom that SL does?

Becuase a lot of how "better" it is would depend on that.
Lex Neva
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03-13-2007 09:04
From: Colette Meiji
Does anyone think Sony will give people the same freedom that SL does?

Becuase a lot of how "better" it is would depend on that.


Given the level of graphics I saw in that video? Not a chance. They can't keep that up while allowing user-generated content with anywhere near the degree of freedom that SL has.
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03-13-2007 09:08
If you mean would they let people whine and pick apart every decision they make? The answer is no.



From: Colette Meiji
Does anyone think Sony will give people the same freedom that SL does?

Becuase a lot of how "better" it is would depend on that.
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Colette Meiji
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03-13-2007 09:16
From: April Firefly
If you mean would they let people whine and pick apart every decision they make? The answer is no.



I mean will they allow personal freedom - Im sure youve noticed how Linden Labs decision to encroach on that in one area has led to a vocal objection.

Will sony be as supportive as LL of freedom or even less so? Was my question.

I think Linden labs is as supportive of In World personal freedom as any company who wants to stay in business can be.
Darien Caldwell
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03-13-2007 12:34
From what I read PS3 Home will be like a 3d version of Habbo Hotel or Coke Music. And if you don't know what that is, look it up. But in short, it will be limited, and riddled with product placements. Not even in league with SL.
Argent Stonecutter
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03-13-2007 13:04
This isn't an improved SL. It's not even an improved "There".

There's no way the console-centric Playstation division would consider providing even a fraction of the in-world building tools we have in SL. Their heads would explode. "Let people write their own games on our servers? And give them away?" *BOOM*
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03-13-2007 21:22
Heh- Argent! My sentiments exactly! :D

All it is, is a pretty place for you to "buy" Made-By Sony, Approved By Sony, "stuff" for your lil' 3D Haven, find others to play a game with, and chat using the controller or the onscreen keyboard. WOOO-frickin'-HOOO!! Would anyone be in SL if we had to use a joystick to talk or type on an onscreen keyboard?

OH! And like others are saying, Its a place to be bombarded with ads ads ads and more ads.
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03-13-2007 21:30
What do you think about this: http://www.gamevideos.com/video/id/9860 ?
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03-14-2007 02:15
From: Tod69 Talamasca
OH! And like others are saying, Its a place to be bombarded with ads ads ads and more ads.

Oh yeah - don't have to worry about ads in SL. -_-'
Just because the ads are for in-world items instead of corporate stuff doesn't make the bombardment any better. I'm not saying SL ads can't sometimes be useful, I'm just saying if you are bothered by wall to wall ads trying to sell you something, your not going to be happy in SL either.
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03-14-2007 04:31
From: SuezanneC Baskerville
What do you think about this: http://www.gamevideos.com/video/id/9860 ?



THAT was cool! BUT---- it's one of the few PS3 games I've seen.

The only thing that keeps it from being anywhere near what SL is, is Scripting. Feel like programming code using a control pad?

Seems it would hold the attention of someone interested in Game Design, but for your average casual gamer it wont hold interest long.

I did notice one thing about any of these PS3 demos that they mention.... PHYSICS! Their Physics Engine is quite Up-To-Date, while SL languishes back in the dark ages of Havok.

Maybe this should be a wake up call to LL to update the physics engine?

Another downside to anything related to PS3: Try to get one!! Sony better push out more, maybe drop the price. You can have a halfway decent PC gaming rig for $600.

From: XploR Moore
Oh yeah - don't have to worry about ads in SL. -_-'
Just because the ads are for in-world items instead of corporate stuff doesn't make the bombardment any better. I'm not saying SL ads can't sometimes be useful, I'm just saying if you are bothered by wall to wall ads trying to sell you something, your not going to be happy in SL either.


Ads in SL? I've seen a few. Nothing "in your face", but well, if folks are running shops, I'd expect no less. How many of "Home's" in-world ads are made by the home user?
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03-14-2007 08:20
From: SuezanneC Baskerville
What do you think about this: http://www.gamevideos.com/video/id/9860 ?
I saw that. It made me want to see what kind of physics-enhanced maze I could build in SL.
Learjeff Innis
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03-14-2007 11:03
PS3 can do a better job of graphics than your PC. It's what it's designed specifically to do.

PS3 will only compete well with SL if they also offer servers that compare with SL.

What I think would be great is an SL client for PS3. Since SL client is open source, Sony might even have done it -- except that they have their own thing now.
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03-14-2007 11:23
So I'm supposed to spend 600 dollars for a video game system like PS3 that's almost the same price as a computer...except I'm limited because it is a video game system and not a computer...just so I can play a game that's almost exactly like Second Life? But oh wait, I can't make money off of the ps3 game... Yeah. PS3 sucks as it is. Glitches, no exclusive titles...and it's *cringe* a playstation!
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03-15-2007 21:32
From: Learjeff Innis
PS3 can do a better job of graphics than your PC. It's what it's designed specifically to do.

PS3 will only compete well with SL if they also offer servers that compare with SL.

What I think would be great is an SL client for PS3. Since SL client is open source, Sony might even have done it -- except that they have their own thing now.


Nah- their graphics are on Par with a PC now. The difference- In a few years, PS3 becomes outdated, you buy another system. A PC? I just toss in a new part or two for less than the cost of another Console system. (1 more month till I get my GeForce 8800GTS)

Besides, I have yet to see Photoshop, any 3d Design, Tax Software, Word Processing, Spreadsheet, Video Capture & Edit ability built into a console.

Whats hurting the PS3 at the moment, as someone said, there's really No single "Must have" games for it.

OH! Just had to add this Link. It compares the RL Scene with one rendered in Crytek's upcoming game "Crysis", using DirectX10. Almost tough to tell the difference!
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03-17-2007 14:17
From: Tod69 Talamasca
OH! Just had to add this Link. It compares the RL Scene with one rendered in Crytek's upcoming game "Crysis", using DirectX10. Almost tough to tell the difference!


It's easy with the water. The ripples don't make any sense. It's just uniformly...."ripply."
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03-17-2007 18:25
Well, my reaction was "boy, we're still a hell of a long way from photorealism".

Very cool, very good, but no holodeck.
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03-18-2007 00:09
I wonder if anyone at Sony is thinking of a way to market PS3 virtual worlds as business communication tools.
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03-18-2007 03:59
From: Draco18s Majestic
It's easy with the water. The ripples don't make any sense. It's just uniformly...."ripply."


Thats what gave it away to me too ;)
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03-18-2007 04:00
From: SuezanneC Baskerville
I wonder if anyone at Sony is thinking of a way to market PS3 virtual worlds as business communication tools.


Heh- nah, most likely the train of thought is "How can we get people to buy the system & how can we get them to buy the games???"
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03-18-2007 09:40
From: Tod69 Talamasca
Heh- nah, most likely the train of thought is "How can we get people to buy the system & how can we get them to buy the games???"

Heh, my thinking was that the Sony guys might be thinking, "hmm, we don't seem to doing too well selling these things for playing games on, maybe we can unload some on some businessmen, hmm, real businesses in virtual worlds seems to be popular news theme lately, maybe with can work with that." Not a very serious thought, so far as the specific thought about PS3's chances as as a business tool, but I do suspect that the attention given to real world businesses in SL is causing some virtual world amd 3D game developers to think of new uses and new markets for their products.
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Argent Stonecutter
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03-18-2007 12:33
It's not just the water. Shadows were all messed up too... some objects that should have had shadows didn't, and others that should have had diffuse shadows had hard-edged ones. I'm not even sure what some of the other cues were, but even if they did a controlled test showing the pictures in sequence I doubt I'd miss any of them given any reasonable time to examine the image.
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03-19-2007 06:12
"Better graphics don't do better business" - That's my opinion. Without the same virtual freedom within "Home", like in SL, this won't make SL-users to switch. Anyway it's interesting and future will show...
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03-20-2007 07:04
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