OK GUYS WE HERE AT THE ACID ARENA ARE STARTING THE FIGHT AGAINST THE LIMIT OF 25 GROUPS TO AN ACCOUNT,,
HOW MANY TIME DO YOU HEAR A FRIEND SAY HOLD ON I JUST DELETE ONE,
OR IM FULL. I THINK WE NEED TO BE ABLE TO CATOGORISE OUR GROUPS INTO SUBFOLDERS, AND HAVE A LIMIT OF AT LEAST 100 GROUPS. AND I ALSO THINK WE SHOULD BE ABLE TO SELECT ALL THE GROUPS WE WANT AT ONE, AND SEND ONE MESSEGE,,,,, TO THEM ALL. NOT ONE TO EACH. THIS INCLUDES NOTICES.
IF YOUR UP FOR HELPING FIGHT THE WAR IN 25 GROUPS AS A LIMIT.
THEN PLEASE JOIN UP .......
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gold Rang
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11-18-2007 01:53
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Ike Fairweather
Off Tha Chain
Join date: 1 Feb 2007
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11-18-2007 02:29
How people flood you with notices per group, 25 is too many for me. I get like 20-30 notices a day per group for each event.
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Conifer Dada
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Join date: 6 Oct 2006
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11-18-2007 03:06
25 seems like enough groups to me. It encourages us to be selective.
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Nina Stepford
was lied to by LL
Join date: 26 Mar 2007
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11-18-2007 03:09
i have a seperate group for every property i rent.
25 is nowhere near enough. for every batch of 25 groups i need, i have to create two alts. _____________________
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Void Singer
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11-18-2007 03:22
I don't think I have 10.... maybe I'm picky
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Ava Glasgow
Hippie surfer chick
Join date: 27 Jan 2007
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11-18-2007 03:31
LOTS AND LOTS OF YELLING ABOUT GROUP LIMITS Hi Gold, perhaps you could suggest people go vote on the JIRA for this issue: http://jira.secondlife.com/browse/MISC-208 |
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Teeny Leviathan
Never started World War 3
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11-18-2007 03:38
25 is more than enough for me. I can remember when the limit was 5.
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Fade Languish
I just build stuff...
Join date: 20 Oct 2005
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11-18-2007 03:43
I think there's actually a reason for the limit. From memory, every time you enter a parcel it has to query to check against banlists etc, creating extra load. At least, I think I read something like that once.
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Sally Silvera
live music maniac
Join date: 17 Feb 2007
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11-18-2007 03:49
Hi Gold, perhaps you could suggest people go vote on the JIRA for this issue: http://jira.secondlife.com/browse/MISC-208  @ the OP: voting for the Jira issue is probably a better idea and more likely to get attention from LL than starting an inworld campaign that (from what I understand in your post) might require joining a group  I'd like to be able to have more groups. I'm a member of a lot of music-related and musicians' groups. Only one or two of those are a bit spammy. Having said that, I think 100 groups is a bit on the silly side and I would seriously hate having messages and notices cross-posted to more than one group. Just my 2c, IMHO and YMMV etc. _____________________
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Ciaran Laval
Mostly Harmless
Join date: 11 Mar 2007
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11-18-2007 04:09
i have a seperate group for every property i rent. 25 is nowhere near enough. for every batch of 25 groups i need, i have to create two alts. I'd love to do this because then prim limits are enforced. |
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Usagi Musashi
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Join date: 24 Oct 2004
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11-18-2007 04:12
<---wants more groups.........................
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Tana Smirnov
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Join date: 15 Oct 2006
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25 group limit
11-18-2007 04:12
Actually I have never heard anyone say they had to delete a group in order to join another because of the group limit. lol. I choose groups that I have an interest in and I participate regularly in those selected groups. I could never be active in so many. Also most groups have im's and group messages. It would simply drive me crazy with all of the spam received from so many groups. I would like to know more of a reason to have so many groups though. I may be missing something.
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Fade Languish
I just build stuff...
Join date: 20 Oct 2005
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11-18-2007 04:14
Actually I have never heard anyone say they had to delete a group in order to join another because of the group limit. lol. I choose groups that I have an interest in and I participate regularly in those selected groups. I could never be active in so many. Also most groups have im's and group messages. It would simply drive me crazy with all of the spam received from so many groups. I would like to know more of a reason to have so many groups though. I may be missing something. One reason - if you rent a lot of mall spaces, that's a group for each location. _____________________
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Ciaran Laval
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11-18-2007 04:17
Actually I have never heard anyone say they had to delete a group in order to join another because of the group limit. I've had to leave groups to join other groups. |
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Cherry Czervik
Came To Her Senses
Join date: 18 Feb 2006
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11-18-2007 04:22
Actually I have never heard anyone say they had to delete a group in order to join another because of the group limit. lol. I choose groups that I have an interest in and I participate regularly in those selected groups. I could never be active in so many. Also most groups have im's and group messages. It would simply drive me crazy with all of the spam received from so many groups. I would like to know more of a reason to have so many groups though. I may be missing something. I always have to weigh up if I can join a group. 3/4 of my groups are taken up with business related stuff or land group stuff. I wish there were more, so I can be in more which offer group members a discount. Then again there's all the mentor related groups I am in. And the one Linden can't purge me from, it seems! Still - it *used* to be just 15. Think yourself lucky to have 25, when we first got it that was an unimaginable luxury. |
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Cherry Czervik
Came To Her Senses
Join date: 18 Feb 2006
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11-18-2007 04:23
I've had to leave groups to join other groups. Yes ... sobs ... leave me why don't you ... wargh!! |
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Ciaran Laval
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11-18-2007 05:00
Yes ... sobs ... leave me why don't you ... wargh!! See! I had to leave Cherry! She pokes me with a spork on a regular basis for this. |
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Haravikk Mistral
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11-18-2007 05:12
I'd like to draw attention to the following JIRA issue as well, which notes why we have a limit and the kind of thing that needs to be done before it can be raised:
http://jira.secondlife.com/browse/SVC-280 However, I posted that in order to try to reduce the avatar payload caused by group information, 25 groups IMO is more than enough. If you need more, then you should really be considering why. For example, the issue of needing a group for every parcel you rent? You should really refer to the following JIRA issue for a much better solution: http://jira.secondlife.com/browse/VWR-174 _____________________
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Abra Miles
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Join date: 30 Aug 2007
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11-18-2007 05:20
Depending on your need for the groups, many clothing related designers have adopted a way to update customers without the need for a group. This helps with keeping down the spam from group chats and also allows the space to be used for interest groups instead. I believe it is called a "subscribe-o-matic", if memory serves.
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Cherry Czervik
Came To Her Senses
Join date: 18 Feb 2006
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11-18-2007 05:21
I'd like to draw attention to the following JIRA issue as well, which notes why we have a limit and the kind of thing that needs to be done before it can be raised: http://jira.secondlife.com/browse/SVC-280 However, I posted that in order to try to reduce the avatar payload caused by group information, 25 groups IMO is more than enough. If you need more, then you should really be considering why. For example, the issue of needing a group for every parcel you rent? You should really refer to the following JIRA issue for a much better solution: http://jira.secondlife.com/browse/VWR-174 Was that to me hon? Not about individual parcels I rent ... very complicated, and interpersonal  |
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Ciaran Laval
Mostly Harmless
Join date: 11 Mar 2007
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11-18-2007 05:34
However, I posted that in order to try to reduce the avatar payload caused by group information, 25 groups IMO is more than enough. If you need more, then you should really be considering why. Of my 24 groups five could be deemed for social reasons, one of them is a blogging group and another is for land dealers to communicate. Five are for my own land management. Two are for support and updates from manufacturers. and the other twelve are for business purposes, I just left a group for a mall I no longer rent at. If I want to rent at two more malls, I'm going to have to lose one of my existing groups. I can't add groups for subjects I'm interested in because I've got no room. |
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SuezanneC Baskerville
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Join date: 22 Dec 2003
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11-18-2007 06:11
Actually I have never heard anyone say they had to delete a group in order to join another because of the group limit. I"m saying it. Again. I'm grouped up. I've had to resign from one to join another many times. At least 5 times in the past month. If I wanted to rent some land that required group membership, I'd have to quite a group for each group needed. If I wanted to start a business that involved being a group founder, for each group I founded I'd have to quite an existing group. If someone staged an event that involved joining a group to participate in, I'd have to quit a group to join in the event. I've had to quit old groups from the early days of SL that had sentimental value in order to join groups with utilitarian value. _____________________
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Nina Stepford
was lied to by LL
Join date: 26 Mar 2007
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11-18-2007 06:22
this jira proposal only concerns itself with autoreturn.
it does not address the other many reasons for having each renter in his own group, such as: - ability to kick and ban and maintain the banlist - ability to teraform - ability to change parcel name and description - accurate prim counts - ability to change landing point, turn public build-script-entry on and off. - ability to invite others into "build allowed" group - ability to deed tv, radio, or orb to group - etc etc there is no substitute for having each property and tenant associated with a unique group. I'd like to draw attention to the following JIRA issue as well, which notes why we have a limit and the kind of thing that needs to be done before it can be raised: http://jira.secondlife.com/browse/SVC-280 However, I posted that in order to try to reduce the avatar payload caused by group information, 25 groups IMO is more than enough. If you need more, then you should really be considering why. For example, the issue of needing a group for every parcel you rent? You should really refer to the following JIRA issue for a much better solution: http://jira.secondlife.com/browse/VWR-174 _____________________
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Nina Stepford
was lied to by LL
Join date: 26 Mar 2007
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11-18-2007 06:24
you cry for him yet kicked me out of chocolat :o(
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Isobel DeSantis
Rechargeable ...
Join date: 1 Jan 2007
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11-18-2007 06:31
However, I posted that in order to try to reduce the avatar payload caused by group information, 25 groups IMO is more than enough. If you need more, then you should really be considering why. For example, the issue of needing a group for every parcel you rent? You should really refer to the following JIRA issue for a much better solution: http://jira.secondlife.com/browse/VWR-174 In my case, I'm forever switching groups around and the reason I have so many is that I'm a content creator and I rent mall space. All but one mall owner insists that I join their group in order to place objects there and when you add on the groups for my home and main store I'm pretty much full without using a single group slot for the things I'm interested in. Fashion Consolidated has been a godsend! Your suggestion for adding users to the "non-autoreturn" list is a great idea. Is the functionality currently available within LSL? I've also looked into subscribe-a-matic for my own user group, but there are two disadvantages for me atm. One is that for >200 users the cost per month isn't insignificant. The other is that I like to give special prices to members wearing their group tag and I don't believe there's an equivalent feature with subscribe-a-matic. Isobel |