Voice in SL

*Nods* I'm well aware of the multiple meanings, "Merchant aircraft carrier," "Mainland Affairs Council," "Multiplexed Analogue Components".... I just picked one from the computing list that I'd heard of (I use MAC addresses all the time at work).



To be frank, this thread went off topic with the first reply, and since then there's only been one acknowledgement of the OP.

Not to mention:

"Two all beef paties, special sauce, lettuce, cheese, pickles, onions, on a sesame seed bun"

Theres been at least 2 aknowledgements. Youll have to reread the whole thread now.

Nuuuuuuuuuu!

And this is the third one.
And I only posted this as a suggestion. In the meanwhile I did get a good connection with a Mac/ mac/ MAC user, he stuttered..
So I guess my friend needs to take a close look at his Macintosh laptop, or is it notebook, I bet someone knows the difference.
I still feel like a voice forum would be a good idea, hell, I even volunteer to monitor it.

Others can think of a good name.
Characters M,m,A,a,C or c not allowed.
That is a joke, I dont take responcibilty for people feeling offended or otherwise annoyed.

Quite sure! A search of the forums & LL Blog will show how many things were added even when people were against it.

Makes sense tho. Your company changes its policy about something which costs l$$$ to implement, you and other employees complain about it alot. Do you think they'd change it back?

Those who think voice is not going to stay are really unrealisitic.

People know I didnt support LL wanting to add voice - mainly becuase I hate stereotypes and the related nonsense. I never argued it wasnt their call to make - I just didnt want them claiming some sort of overwhelmong mandate that didnt exist.

But Im not so naive to believe once its been added they are going to remove it. Thats litterally delusional. I wouldnt expect them to either. It took a lot of work to get it functional, and they have a lot of interest in it.

As such - It goes back to the OP's idea. A voice issues forum isnt a bad idea. More and more people who come to SL will want to use voice, a place for them to go to discuss it when they cant get what they want from FAQs and Wikis - wouldnt be a bad thing

FAQs and wikis are nice - but one thing they are not is a dialog.

Youd think people who were interested in INCREASING the speed of communication ( one of the reasons behind adding voice) would be all for that.

/me applauds.
Well spoken Colette, thanks.

A seperate area for voice issues is an excellent idea. Most threads on the subject even those that are of legitimate concern usually degrade into the same tired arguments. A dedicated area would alleviate this to a great extent.

I'm impartial to voice being here, since I still don't use it and don't really intend to.
But if people are having issues then it makes sense to give them somewhere to go, but is a forum of their own really necessary? The forums are incredibly cluttered as it is, bugs with voice should go on the jira, as with new feature ideas.

Jira should die a flame inspired messy death.


Sorry just my opinion.

IF Jira was so great, more people would use it.

Huh? The majority of bug-fixes in SL are coming from issues posted to the JIRA. I'm currently on a work placement at Morgan Stanley (big investment bank) and they use JIRA to handle all issues and tie-ins to tasks on all software development projects. I'm hoping that when my prototype is ready to show off I will be able to apply for JIRA project so I can manage feature-requests etc.

Other than the fact that the SL JIRA is incredibly slow, it is getting a hell of a lot more stuff done than the old feature request tool.

Ill concede to your greater knowledge of it.

However Jira isnt the place for people to go if they want a help dialog, I dont think.

Normally Id say Resident Answers or the technical section- but people are concerned every post will be a flame fest.

I dont think it will continue to be so, but I see a value in having one forum for both questions and technical information on using and getting voice to work.

Does anyone know if these forums support proper sub-forums? For example; if I opened "Support" on the front of the forums, it would open into 10 more forums, each of which is for a specific branch of support?

As it is now we have a huge mess of forums on the front page which is just horrible, when individual language forums could easily disappear under a larger "International forums" (with translations in the description), and then maybe even by geographical location ("Europe" etc.).

I mean, I get your point, it could be useful and helpful. But what we need really is to have resident answers broken up into logical sections so that it can be used as a kind of community support/self-help forums area.
The "one more forum won't hurt" is the phrase that got us the current front-page of doom

I mean I could have sworn vBulletin board supports sub-forums, so where are they?

We have the bargain basement version of vBulletin.

They didnt even pay the Bold/Italics/color/URL link bill.

vBulletin isn't that great of a forum software to begin with. It's better than phpBB, but it's not that great in the grand scheme of things.

HEH! Cant be too shabby as I have seldom ever ever posted as much in a forum anywhere as I have here.

Something about the simplicity of it I like!

And Colette- well said.

Whether you like/dislike voice... it's staying.

And yes, Voice needs its own Forum section. Only catch is, LL would LOVE to do away with the Forums (its bad for biz)

A common misconception. In fact, an open and active set of user forums is generally GOOD for business, even if said forums contain a lot of negative material. Their very existence is an indication that the company cares enough about its users to give them a place to discuss the product, get help, etc. The members of an active forum often create a community, one into which they recruit others...or into which others naturally gravitate.

You won't see forums like this on Sony's website, or Verizon, or Ford. They're a feature of smaller, energetic companies who are looking to connect with, or stay connected with, their customers in a more direct and personal way.

Sometimes, companies lose sight of that, and either heavily censor or abolish their discussion forums. Bad Things are likely to follow. Offhand, I can think of at least three companies that went this route. All are now either out of business, or have been bought up by other outfits.

For all their faults, LL has a great forum community. Being here is like being in SL, when I can't be in SL. I hope that LL doesn't lose sight of the valuable asset they have here.