Ban Lines visible to those who put them up
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Cortex Draper
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Join date: 23 Aug 2005
Posts: 406
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01-22-2007 06:33
I think an option in the view menu to hide/show ban lines would solve the problem of seeing neighboors ugly ban lines.
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Indy Quamar
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Join date: 16 Sep 2006
Posts: 69
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01-22-2007 09:37
From: Banking Laws On a side note, you're now on my lands explicit ban list. Forget 200 meters. 768. Suck it up. Awww What about me??? I want to be on your explict ban list too!! Since you have ban lines up already I am banned but i want to be on you explict list too. What do I have to do to get there? Call you a Nartard or something? Or is it enough to say I think everyone should have to urinate on your land every x min? Please Please put me on the explicit list and dont play favorites!!! Hey Dillion If i am lucky enough to get on the ban list you want to go bounce off the walls there some time? Please give us the loc of your land so we dont have to search the world for ypur ban lines so we can feel bad about being banned from your land. Oh wait ..."No payment info on file" you dont have any land DRATS!!!
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Isablan Neva
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01-22-2007 10:23
Why couldn't parcel "ban everyone" be enabled only on private sims? This would solve pretty much everybody's problem IMHO. LL once told us that if we wanted zoning we should handle it ourselves - and people did by setting up private islands that were zoned and residents who wanted to live in a zoned area had a place to go where they could be happy. Why couldn't the same thing be done with "ban everyone"? Allow them only on private islands and let the island owners cater to the market for people who want to keep everyone off their land. Everybody wins....
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Kitty Barnett
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01-22-2007 13:00
From: Banking Laws Forget 200 meters. I still don't really get where the 200 meters comes from. I can fly over access restricted land at 50m above land level. 
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Argent Stonecutter
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Join date: 20 Sep 2005
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01-22-2007 13:09
From: Banking Laws As long as the guns don't shoot off my land (sensor guns, for instance) then theres no issue. Besides if you're flyign at 3k..whats gonna hit you? Whats gonna be in sensor range? According to one of your earlier posts in this thread, you are.
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Ylikone Obscure
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Join date: 24 Jan 2007
Posts: 335
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02-04-2007 17:51
Ban lines suck. Flying is very difficult because so many people use them. Sure, you can fly above them, but then you are so high you can't see where you are.
LL should give a free security-bot to every landowner... one of those security systems that boots out people after 10 seconds or whatnot. That would give people enough time to fly through others airspace while still stopping people from suddenly dropping by.
Another idea, make ban lines only work when the land owner is online and on their land.
What do the ban lines really accomplish? People using them, do you not realize you still have no privacy? Anyone can use the camera controls to sneak through your property.
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Reece Gunawan
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Join date: 21 Dec 2006
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02-04-2007 18:23
I love the idea! You've had some amazing ideas lately and I sure hope LL implements them at some point  I have yet to find anything (other than griefers) which are more annoying than ban lines...
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Banking Laws
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02-05-2007 05:59
From: Ylikone Obscure Another idea, make ban lines only work when the land owner is online and on their land.
Group land. The owner doesnt need to be on for the land to be in use. Maybe people don't want people walkign through their house though, consider that? Regardless of their online status or whereabouts.
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SuezanneC Baskerville
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02-05-2007 06:12
It occurs to me that in addition to impairing the enjoyment of land surrounding a restricted access parcel, land bans also impede the neighbors ability to fly around in a normal manner. Accordingly, I now propose that in addition to ban lines being visible to those who make them, that ban lines also stop those who make them from being able to fly or walk across them. Ban line makers could enter their property by teleporting.
Think of a ban line as a fence. When you put up a fence, it's not just the people that you want to keep out that have to deal with the fence, you have to deal with the fence. In SL you get to put up a giant fence that others have to deal with but you don't have to deal with it at all.
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Ylikone Obscure
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Join date: 24 Jan 2007
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02-05-2007 17:24
From: Banking Laws Maybe people don't want people walkign through their house though, consider that? Regardless of their online status or whereabouts. Did you know that even with ban lines, I can still stand next to your land and use my camera controls to walk through your house?
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Jeff Kelley
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Join date: 8 Nov 2006
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02-05-2007 17:35
From: SuezanneC Baskerville Accordingly, I now propose that in addition to ban lines being visible to those who make them, that ban lines also stop those who make them from being able to fly or walk across them. Think of a ban line as a fence. Make this a proposal and will give my 10 votes. In the mind of people who erect ban lines, yes they are fences. So let's them be fences for everybody.
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Gummi Richthofen
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Interesting idea, wrong solution.
02-06-2007 03:30
What people seem to want is privacy when they are here; very few people appear to need it when they aren't here. Since this is the "new feature" forum and people are instead blowing off steam about civic (and civil) behaviour, I'd like to change the tack a little and propose a different feature request.
How about:
a) a softer ban? making places "no land" to complement "no fly" is effectively what most of the more naive banners actually want to achieve. A box that says "don't allow people to get closer than N metres to any of my structures" would achieve what most want, while not impeding those who are no threat inna first place.
b) A presence-oriented ban? The existence of those damnfool "Security orb" devices shows that people have a wide range of attitudes to trespassers. personally, I want my land to be no-build, no-script - except when I am there. Then I can supervise what happens - but when I'm NOT there, people can wander through, they just can't leave any traces.
These seem to me to be the right type of compromise.
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Jeff Kelley
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02-06-2007 10:03
From: Gummi Richthofen personally, I want my land to be no-build, no-script - except when I am there. World > Land > Options > Create objects, Enter objects, Execute scripts = NO. As far as I know, the land owner can always create (even if the Build button is greyed out), enter objects end execute scripts.
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Learjeff Innis
musician & coder
Join date: 27 Nov 2006
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02-06-2007 10:25
Please post a feature suggestion. I'll vote for it.
Ban lines should be visible by all. In the client, you should be able to turn viewing all ban on or off.
Simple as that. All or none, with no discrimination based on who put up the lines. And a way to make all of them disappear or not, at your discretion.
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Foo Spark
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Join date: 8 Nov 2006
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02-06-2007 12:46
I would vote for this too.
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Draco18s Majestic
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02-06-2007 12:56
From: Jeff Kelley From: Gummi Richthofen personally, I want my land to be no-build, no-script - except when I am there.
World > Land > Options > Create objects, Enter objects, Execute scripts = NO. As far as I know, the land owner can always create (even if the Build button is greyed out), enter objects end execute scripts. That's not what he wants. He wants the land to be no-built/no-script when he's not around, to have it enabled automatically when he leaves or enters. What if he crashes? He doesn't have a chance to enable the no-build and no-script.
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