I want hunger, poverty, disease

OK.. I'm playing devils advocate here but..

At the moment the economic drivers in SL seem to be land, clothes, scripting and sex.

What I'd like like to see is a bit more "realism" If AV's gradually starved to death - becoming less attractive as they did so or even contracted diseases - then whole new markets would open up.. Healthy food (maintain your AV) would be highly prized whilst escort agencies would have to get medical certification or else their client base would dissappear.-the possibilities are endless..

From LL's point of view - new free accounts would have a limited lifetime before the newbies either succeeded or perished in a horrible way..unless they created a premium account..and started paying. This would serve to unload the servers

New diseases could be introduced every week.... skilled scripters could mutate them.. whilst their counter parts would come up with remedies...(or maybe they wouldn't..)

The tools already allow this to be scripted and done.

Have fun getting people to wear your "age and disease" indicator.

It would not work for those of us that squash the AV into a small ball and replace it with a pile of prims.

Edit:
We already have viruses in the form of grey goo attacks.

Would be cool, i miss being able to step upon the low classes XD

This general kind of thing has been suggested in the past, as a "linden sink" and to counter camping.

Even far less rigorous schemes... such as having to pay a token number of lindens to remain awake and active more than an some percentage of a day... are vigorously rejected by most people who hear about them.

well I saw the other day that you can now buy drugs and there are many "druggies" running around. Maybe open a rehab clinic?

Second Life's one attraction to me (and the reason why I think it is not inherently a "game", even though it can be used to play games) is that you can do anything and everything without silly and unnecessary in-world restricitions of having to acquire this or that for it, aka "grind".

"Realism" is a stupid word for it anyway: the reality of SL is that what limits building is database resources and lag, and nothing limits avatar life except Linden Lab say so. Any other limits would be arbitrary and artificial. There is no "background story" to SL world as a whole that says it should be one way or the other, after all: it's all our world, our imagination. (And if there is a background story to your area, it is your job to introduce the necessary hunger counters etc, not LL's.)

I play MMORPGs and quite enjoy them, but SL is a different beast entirely and I for one wish it to remain so.

That said, I have been toying with an idea for an epidemic simulator that could be fun and educational.

Why pay money to starve? I get your point, but I don't think this is the correct game for that kind of reallity.

my 2c:

These kinds of experiments (disease, starvation, age &c) should be confined to restricted zones. Any avatar that wants to enter such a zone has to consent to the rules of the zone. And any avatar must be free to leave these restricted zones at any time.

I think few people would want such features.
I am however still waiting for a good hunger HUD to hit (alliteration, eep!), a properly organised one with restaurants already around with compatible products. It could be an interesting social product to use, as you go to cafes and restaurants etc. to eat, or a hotel/home to sleep and so-on.

But being a HUD it would be just a mini-game within SL, like playing the Sims with yourself and meeting other people doing the same.

If someone else hasn't done it by the time I finish my other millions of projects then I'll end up doing it

I saw someone running around with a tag like this. They were playing a game called "survival" or "survivor" or something like that. Not sure how you join up and I can't log in at the moment to see if there is a group for it. That could be one option. Personally, I'm not interested in having my AV actually get sick.

good idea, but let Estate owner have that option in estate control.

...kinda like enabling health damage?




Actually.... it'll be like trying to turn SL into The Sims? ...ew

Hmm would be good because it could create a whole new industry making food & serving it, and incase the talented people haven't noticed, SL has a huge unemployment figure, they get jobs, they buy more of your stuff

I think you need to go play the Sims

I want herpes.

Many people just want to escape and not be reminded of the problems & restrictions of real life.

As to the idea of a bioengineered diseases as a game, that would require quite a bit of programing to add to SL. As a stand alone game it could be very interesting.

And by the way, we already _have_ poverty, or I wouldn't have people begging me for $L on a daily basis.

That is because our make everything from nothing instantly society has no jobs.

If you can't script, build or sell your AV's body you are stuffed

Congratulations, this is the worst idea I've ever heard.










Seriously, ever.

There's no challenge in a perfect life.
Free houses, clothes & everything else next?
Why do I have to walk 20m when I could get short range teleport?

Since sex seems to play such a big part in SL, why not food? I go to a restaurant with eat animations from time to time. Sitting and eating is at least as intersting as dancing on a pad or using a camping chair, so I'd like to see more restaurants where you get paid a linden or two to eat. I've found a few restaurants and these would seem ideal places to go if one just wants to chat as there isn't much moving around.

If realism means nothing, then we might as well have white matchstick avatars roaming about an empty grey graph-paper grid!

So there is a valid argument for a health factor. How about health points that are gained (up to a maximum) by eating and drinking and are spent on teleporting. If an hour's eating in a chatty environment accumulated 120 teleport points it would be worthwhile. But there would need to me more restaurants. Would that be a bad thing?

All residents could be given, say, 100 free TPs a month, after which extra ones would need to be earned.

3rd worst idea ever.

This idea isn't really so crazy. There may come a time when humanity in general will realize how important pain and the other unpleasant things in life really are. Our whole lives seem to revolve around finding ways to avoid pain and discomfort. If you take those things away then we could become aimlesss. Right now, we have the pain, discomfort and just plain awkwardness of the real world to remind us. This is partly why we're all logging into Second Life. Yet one day we may eventually spend even more time in more sophisticated virtual worlds and become numb as a result. That might be when the original posters idea may not sound so bad afterall.


Laurel: "ARrrRGH! OMG! Look out! It's the huge green fugly monster from hell!"

Hardy: "So? It can't hurt us. It isn't real, dumbass!"

Laurel: "Oh yeah.. "


No pain = No pleasure, no happiness and no excitement.

I think the game has enough bugs to infuriate us to the extent required.

Or say...Not. Use a HUD. Not all of us want that.