In search of a particular picture of me

A photoshopped picture of my avatar, stuck in the open mouthed surprise position, doctored up in a paint program to make it look like I am holding something in my mouth, was passed out recently, possibly at the Welcome Area.

I offer a 2,000 Linden reward to the person who first person who gives me a copy of the correct picture, other than the creator or any of the people who posed with the undoctored picture of me worn as a mask.

I have like 1000 snapshots of you, but not the one you request.

And I haven't been stalking you, nuh uh, not me.

I mean *bump*.

are you just totally kidding? you don't really have even one snapshot of me, right? unless i just happend to be in a crowd with somebody worthwhile like Philip (status) or Psyra (cool av), or Pendari in that police tape (obvious), right?

i want the unflattering picture to present to the abuse department, and hopefully have the texture removed from the database.

How do you know it was you in the picture? Did you see it? Did someone else see it, or was this merely a 'someone told me' situation?

Yeah I'm searchin for that pic too

So you can post it to RateMyAv.com, right?

Juro, I was on the scene while someone stated they had taken the undoctored, cropped image of my av's face that was used as a mask in a degradation ritual by that person and several others, and added something to it.

The image was distributed by giving textures to people, so it was wasn't visible to me. If the texture had been given to me I would have the evidence I am looking for already.

The image was apparently given to other people, who stated that it was a piece of shit had been added. Several people said yes when asked for a copy of the picture, and more people confirmed that the addition was a piece of shit. They laughed and cackled in type for a while.

I filed an abuse report against this person, but I would like to file an additional abuse report with better evidence. I would also like to have a copy in hopes that the UUID of the texture might be deleted from the system, producing a "Missing Image" or smoke when the image is attempted to be displayed.

I have, of course, a trancript of the text of my abuse report in my email, and I always include an excerpt of the offending text when filing a chat related abuse report, to make it as easy as possible for the abuse staff to verify the truth or falseness of my report rather than having to wade through the entire chat history, which I also include unless I forget.

The mask of me was used in an adaption of the "asian looking avatar with an Anshe Chung mask" that has been used repeatedly to mock Anshe Chung. The same song used when ridiculing Anshe was played during the group's pose wearing masks of me in front of Video Linden, it sings "I'm horny, so horny, I love you long time." in a bad asian language accent. The accent gives it a racist feel when it is used as part of an Anshe Chung insult; when used against me it just shows the people attempting to ridicule me publicly were lazy.

The group picture pose of the 5 (6?) people wearing the undoctored mask of me was sent to Snapzilla and thus appeared on the front page of secondlife.com website for nearly 12 hours, as well as being displayed on Cristiano's website.

I just now looked at the transcript of the chat history in my email from the abuse department, the person who claimed to have doctored the picture says the addition was a tongue, and someone who must have seen it says that it is poop. The person who claims to have done the image doctoring admits it by saying "You got me." and a Second Life Mentor on the scene, who must have also been given the picture, says "There was a picture like that on the Second Life website. Priceless."

Seems this whole affair shows more about the perpetrator than it shows about you.

Pun intended?

Were I a Linden, I would definitely consider that harassment, which is against ToS.

Juro, our avatar images are not to be used without our consent. It's a decision that resulted from the upskirt museum conflict. It was not allowable for my avatar's face to be captured and cropped for use on a mask without my consent, and it was against that rule for it to be doctored in an abusive way, and it was against that rules for it to be given out, and it was against that rule for it to be accepted by those it was offered to. Appropriate action on the part of those who receive such an obviously unauthorized avatar image would be to file an abuse report and to call a liaison to the scene.

Also, the Terms of Service and the Community Standards are two distinct documents with different purposes. The Terms of Service deals principally with customer's obligation to not interfere with Linden Research's ability to conduct business - e.g. the obligation to not perform a DoS attack on Linden Servers. The document which focuses on conflicts between customers, such as forbidding hate speech about race, religion, sexual orientation, etc., and which contains "the Big Six", is called the Community Standards. They aren't the same thing.

I believe SuezanneC is right. Craping other people's avatar faces or circulating those look-alike avatars is identity theft. If you want understand what I mean I suggest to make some Tom Cruise look-a-like dolls and start sell them on your website. Some lawyers will soon explain to you what you are doing wrong

Upskirt museum?

Don't ask, don't tell, and gods for bid don't touch.
(Has the perfect picture to go here but is at work and it's at home. )

Or, just ask the National Enquirer. They like to use pictures of celebrities quite a bit - and they've been hearing from those celebrities' lawyers too. Only one catch - just because the person's lawyer may claim it's not allowed, doesn't make it true. Time and time again, the lawyers are finding out that a celebrity's image is (unfortunately IMHO) not trademark or copyrightable. If we're going to quote example, let's use scenarios like real court decisions and legal precedents.

In the meantime, I would suspect it'd be a TOS if (btw IANAL):
- It was explicitly claimed or (or deliberately mislead the viewer into thinking) the person in the picture was SusanneC
- It was done done deliberately out of malice

From the sounds of it, doesn't sound to me like anyone is even sure this really is a picture of SusanneC, and it may be possible it may have been someone who looked remarkably similar. It's not a TOS violation in of itself to look a specific way, even if it is exactly like another player. It may be a violation if it was done to deliberately harass or cause trouble.


If there is an AR filed, and there are names (as many as possible I'd have hoped) included that indicated they've seen the pic, then it should be a straightforward matter of checking their inventory for such a picture. Once the UUID is found, then from there everyone else who owns a copy can be identified.


- Newfie

I am not talking about identity theft or the law, I am talking Linden Research policy about use of avatar images as decided as a result of some well publicized accounts of the unauthorized use of numerous avatar images.


I am not disputing that there might also be identity theft, copyright conflicts, and other problems related to the unauthorized use of avatar images; it's just not what I am talking about.

I would like to remind people who received the picture that I am offering a reward for a copy that allows me to identify the offensive image's creator to the abuse department and possibly have the image deleted from the database, excluding the people who were in the offensive group picture.

All I want to know is, what was in your mouth?

A piece of shit, as I think I have explained somewhere in the forums , is what was placed in my av's mouth, according to the chat record of people to whom the image was displayed.

The picture was definitely my avatar, it was identified in chat by people who saw it. I and other witnesses to the group pose were on the scene at that time, and the picture used in the masks worn by those in the group pose is the one the doctoring was done to. I have snapshots and screen captures of that. The group photo was snapshotted and emailed to Snapzilla by one of the participants and played on secondlife.com website for about half a day; I have a screen capure of that and the image file copied as well. That picture of the group pose was displayed in Snapzilla on sluniverse.com. That picture of the group posed sitting on the bench in Video Linden's view shows five or six people wearing the mask of me. There is absolutely zero question about whether it is my image used in the picture. The doctored image might well be on sluniverse or some other website itself, but what I want is the image inside of SL, with the creator's name, and the UUID, in hopes that both can be permanently deleted.

That is rude Suezanne. I'm sorry that happened to you, but as the saying goes, "shit happens". You're probably calling more attention to this though than the situation calls for. Those who did this are probably laughing at your public display of anger and your threats of having them "deleted". Fact is, the people who did this could claim that it's a parody which is upheld by the supreme court as protected under free speech. Unless of course you could prove that the majority of people would have viewed the image and believed that you Suezanne were standing around with "shit" in your mouth. Most likely that is not the case. Your anger or embarrassment here does not dictate what LL will or will not do to any resident. If a resident is found to have violated TOS with this action, then I can with almost absolute surety tell you that they will not be perm banned. They may get suspended for a few days.

Sorry.

I didn't ask people to discuss the matter, I offered a reward. The opinions of the abuse report staff are the only ones that matter on the topic because they get to decide the issue.

The Supreme Court isn't relevant, and I didn't bring up legal matters or lawyers at all, and have no interest in discussing that.

I'm not threatening to delete them, I don't have the power to do so. I didn't address any remarks to the party resonsible, and am not doing so now. I didn't say I had high hopes of seeing more punishment done, but some hope is better than none.

The image may be copied and passed to person who's emotional connection to the creator is tenous enough that the reward I am offering is enough to entice them give me the evidence I am looking for.

When abuse reports are responded to the credibilty of the report has to play a factor in determining the response, so incontrovertible evidence might increase the severity assigned to the response. I have no way to know if the person received any punishment at all, so if they get suspended for three days that is good. Records are kept of abuse reports, and the results of past reports have an effect on the response taken when current reports are are processed, so adding additional evidence might possibly increase the severity of response received by the photo-doctorer in the future.

I'm not sad or angry or having a bad time about this, I'm at work, and it's a slow day. I don't have to spend every second working, so I might as well respond.

It would also just be nice to have proof that would keep the person who did it from saying repeatedly, "I didn't do it, Sue is crazy. I never photoshopped anything for SL."

I am pretty sure this means the person used a different paint program, and is trying to evade the matter by denying photoshopping a picture because what they used was painthshop pro or some other paint program . That's the sort of thing that poorly sort of thing poorly behaved children do.

If you don't want our opinions or discussion then why post on the forums? LL has email.




When it comes to free speech which is really what this matter is about, the supreme court has everything to do with it.




No you do not have the power to delete whomever you wish from the SL grid, and I am happy for that. You did state that you wanted the party in question deleted. As you have realized I guess, that is not your place to decide.




Divide and conquer huh? Whatever works for you. You might want to offer more than 2k though. I wouldnt sell out an enemy for 2k.



What makes you think that past AR's have any effect on new AR's? What evidence do you have to show this is a fact? I would hope that every AR is handled on its own with bias and prejudice removed. I know this is not always the case, but it should be.




I hope you are really not letting this get to you, because if you do then those who did this win.



It sounds like you already have a suspect. Why not just AR with your suspicion included and let the slow moving wheels of SL justice work instead of coming to the forums and proclaiming that you were wronged and asking a bunch of people who don't care to help you out. Is your ego so great? Are you above parody? Why not take it as a compliment to your stature? Or were you ridiculed by people you have upset and they took an opportunity to levy their own justice?

I can't count the number of Linden cut-outs I have found around SL. Some of them are even scripted to say ridiculous things. I laugh when I see them because I know somewhere at sometime that Linden royally pissed off some loser with entirely too much time on his/her hands. I don't think lindens think about it at all. Maybe you shouldnt either. I know, easier said than done.

* pulles up chair...opens beer *


/Shouts...someone pass the popcorn