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Are power struggles, politics, and trying to control the culture apart of the 'game'?Yes, second life is exactly like first life.. it's all just a game
30 (57.7%)
No, keep that crap out of our virtual utopia
6 (11.5%)
Power struggles? Politics? Are you on cough syrup?
16 (30.8%)
Total votes: 52
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blaze Spinnaker
1/2 Serious
Join date: 12 Aug 2004
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08-01-2005 03:25
Quick Poll
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Madame Maracas
Not who you think I am...
Join date: 7 Jun 2004
Posts: 1,953
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08-01-2005 03:57
a part of the game? yes definitely! We're dealing w/humans, and we're a messy bunch. We squabble and compete for amusement in any environment, really, SL is not different in that respect.
That folks expect a utopian socialistic blandness to community interaction always kinda surprises and amuses me. Monopoly is competitive, Mousetrap is competitive, Red Rover is competitive as is checkers, student council elections, job applications, family heirarchies and dating pools, just like in here. It'd be damn dull otherwise. Doesn't make an excuse for rude or bad behavior, just means that a certain percentage of the population will misbehave, no matter what we do. Whether we can, in here, rise above our baser instincts and habits to "do better" that's the question I think, can we all just get along? Maybe just a little better at least? I'd like to think so, but I'm silly that way. _____________________
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Willow Zander
Having Blahgasms
Join date: 22 May 2004
Posts: 9,935
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08-01-2005 04:01
Again with the no cheese..
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Malachi Petunia
Gentle Miscreant
Join date: 21 Sep 2003
Posts: 3,414
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08-01-2005 04:12
No, people seek to aquire power in order to not use it and don't politic towards those ends. There is also an SL "culture" that is completely disjoint from the SL game.
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blaze Spinnaker
1/2 Serious
Join date: 12 Aug 2004
Posts: 5,898
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08-01-2005 04:42
No, people seek to aquire power in order to not use it and don't politic towards those ends. Well, that even confused me. _____________________
Taken from The last paragraph on pg. 16 of Cory Ondrejka's paper "Changing Realities: User Creation, Communication, and Innovation in Digital Worlds :
"User-created content takes the idea of leveraging player opinions a step further by allowing them to effectively prototype new ideas and features. Developers can then measure which new concepts most improve the products and incorporate them into the game in future patches." |
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Malachi Petunia
Gentle Miscreant
Join date: 21 Sep 2003
Posts: 3,414
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08-01-2005 04:45
I can see why, "acquire" was misspelt. I hope that clears that up; my apologies.
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Champie Jack
Registered User
Join date: 6 Dec 2003
Posts: 1,156
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08-01-2005 04:49
I can see why, "acquire" was misspelt. I hope that clears that up; my apologies. absurdity. blaze, yes it is..SL is a part of RL, not separate _____________________
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Euterpe Roo
The millionth monkey
Join date: 24 Jan 2005
Posts: 1,395
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08-01-2005 07:46
<--an optimist just this side of Candide
Power struggles, in-fighting, politics--they are all part of the process as SL defines and refines itself. We are watching and sometimes participating in the evolution of an MMOLS (Massive Multiplayer On-Line Society) (I did not coin this term, but I like it quite a bit). This struggle, if you watch closely, is fascinating. |
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Seldon Metropolitan
Zen Taxi Driver
Join date: 20 Jun 2005
Posts: 376
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08-01-2005 07:57
I think whether we want it or not, politics and intrigue will always be a part of any community this size. For my money, it makes it more interesting in the long run.(not that Im any good at playing that game, I like my place in the stands)
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Chip Midnight
ate my baby!
Join date: 1 May 2003
Posts: 10,231
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08-01-2005 07:57
Is it Conspiracy Theory Poll Day?
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Pol Tabla
synthpop saint
Join date: 18 Dec 2003
Posts: 1,041
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08-01-2005 08:01
Is it Conspiracy Theory Poll Day? or Somewhat Damp-smelling Assertion Day. _____________________
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Dianne Mechanique
Back from the Dead
Join date: 28 Mar 2005
Posts: 2,648
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08-01-2005 08:12
Well, that even confused me. It depends what you mean by "politics" and "power" (hazy definitions being the scourge of all poll questions) My interpretation is that Malachai is saying that while politicing goes on the same as in RL, that it is turned on it's head a bit in Second Life to the degree that there are fewer who seek power for powers sake, and that those who may be in an "FIC" type of position dont generlly feel they should tell everyone else what to do. This is politicing and power relationships but opposite in many ways to RL . _____________________
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blaze Spinnaker
1/2 Serious
Join date: 12 Aug 2004
Posts: 5,898
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08-01-2005 08:40
Ahhh, clearly you have a higher IQ than I, or you are more optimistic. Or, most likely, both.
Upon re-reading it, that makes sense. However, I think most power seekers don't usually seek it to wield it, but rather seek it simply for the sake of having it. _____________________
Taken from The last paragraph on pg. 16 of Cory Ondrejka's paper "Changing Realities: User Creation, Communication, and Innovation in Digital Worlds :
"User-created content takes the idea of leveraging player opinions a step further by allowing them to effectively prototype new ideas and features. Developers can then measure which new concepts most improve the products and incorporate them into the game in future patches." |
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Dianne Mechanique
Back from the Dead
Join date: 28 Mar 2005
Posts: 2,648
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08-01-2005 08:53
Ahhh, clearly you have a higher IQ than I, or you are more optimistic. Or, most likely, both. Upon re-reading it, that makes sense. However, I think most power seekers don't usually seek it to wield it, but rather seek it simply for the sake of having it. ![]() Only Malachiai knows for sure. . _____________________
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Weedy Herbst
Too many parameters
Join date: 5 Aug 2004
Posts: 2,255
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Outing alts
08-01-2005 10:47
I finally figured out who blaze's alt's are.
They are Chicken Little and Boy Wolf. Grats on your 1000th meaningless poll. _____________________
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Buster Peel
Spat the dummy.
Join date: 7 Feb 2005
Posts: 1,242
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08-01-2005 12:18
You forgot the "this is an idiotic poll" choice. I would have picked that if it was there.
At least include a food item. |
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Pendari Lorentz
Senior Member
Join date: 5 Sep 2003
Posts: 4,372
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08-01-2005 12:19
You forgot the "this is an idiotic poll" choice. I would have picked that if it was there. At least include a food item. I still say that Rat's Ass is the best poll option I've ever seen!! ![]() _____________________
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Nolan Nash
Frischer Frosch
Join date: 15 May 2003
Posts: 7,141
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08-01-2005 12:22
I still say that Rat's Ass is the best poll option I've ever seen!! ![]() _____________________
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Ghoti Nyak
καλλιστι
Join date: 7 Aug 2004
Posts: 2,078
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08-01-2005 12:45
Woops, misunderstood the question and answered wrong.
![]() -Ghoti _____________________
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Jellin Pico
Grumpy Oldbie
Join date: 3 Aug 2003
Posts: 1,037
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08-01-2005 13:08
OMG this is really getting silly.
There ARE NO power groups in SL deciding on policy. It's all a paranoid mind game based on forum nonsense. There ARE however, groups of very strong 'personalities' in the forums. But what goes on in the forums doens't have anything to do with 'power struggles' in-world. And the forum stuff? Same ol same ol you find in ANY forum anywhere. I don't in the least expect my little spew here to change anything, but really, there are MUCH better things to fight about than who's the biggest flame warrior _____________________
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Malachi Petunia
Gentle Miscreant
Join date: 21 Sep 2003
Posts: 3,414
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08-01-2005 13:46
Only Malachiai knows for sure. If you are interested in the subject, Robert Wright's The Moral Animal is a splendid introduction. _____________________
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Nolan Nash
Frischer Frosch
Join date: 15 May 2003
Posts: 7,141
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08-01-2005 13:58
I don't in the least expect my little spew here to change anything, but really, there are MUCH better things to fight about than who's the biggest flame warrior "WARNING!!! YOU MUST READ THIS!!! Klaxon, the internet Chicken Little, raises the alarm for each and every paranoid conspiracy theory, Federal Big-Brother scheme, internet hoax, and latest computer virus. No black helicopter alert is so ludicrous, no urban legend so implausible, that he will not pass it along as accepted fact (in ALL CAPS with multiple exclamation marks). Congratulations, you are recipient 16,747 of today's Urban Myth. CAUTION: Evil Clown or even Klaxon himself may sometimes spread false alarms just to stir up trouble." _____________________
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Cocoanut Koala
Coco's Cottages
Join date: 7 Feb 2005
Posts: 7,903
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08-01-2005 15:45
My personal favorite is The Swarm:
"A Swarm hive is almost impossible to detect. When a hapless victim stumbles on a forum that houses a Swarm and disturbs it with an offending message, the Swarm will erupt and fly at their victim from all directions. Taken one at a time the irrelevant, often mindless individual attacks can be easily brushed aside, but because of the sheer volume of the assault even the strongest Warriors must eventually yield. WARNING: Only those who are highly skilled in Swarm management techniques should attempt to wade into a Swarm hive. but even with protective clothing opposing Warriors should expect to suffer a few stings." coco |
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Cienna Samiam
Bah.
Join date: 13 Mar 2005
Posts: 1,316
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08-01-2005 18:18
People say much more in how they say what they say or in what they choose not to say than in what they say at all.
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Baba Yamamoto
baba@slinked.net
Join date: 26 May 2003
Posts: 1,024
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08-02-2005 03:08
I reccomend a one poll per week maximum for all residents ;0
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