What I found the most interesting is that many of the photos seemed to have been taken with the knowledge that they were gonna be photoshopped and hell and back.
Some things like the slight over exposures and lighting are things that a decent photographer can set up from the get go.
When I took my photography classes it was a constant struggle to to set my mind to take the picture as close to how I wanted from the initial shot, and set aside the little voice in my head that kept saying: ahh ok dont worry about that light meter reading you can just burn that in on the computer.
Basically you WANTED to get as close as you could to the end result right at the moment the shutter clicked, because it meant HOURS in the dark room burning, dodging, and processing. No computer touch ups for that class!
Just seemed interesting that in a lot of the photos I looked at there were such simple things that could have been done in the original photograph to lessen the work even for the photoshop artist.
Light source, (direction) taping or pushing a boob where you want it to go, (wardrobe tricks) watching out for over and underexposure etc.
Interesting.
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Brace Coral
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08-02-2005 22:16
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Madame Maracas
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08-03-2005 00:27
Brace, I was thinking something along the same lines. John Ford said "From shit you get shit" with regards to a script, but it applies to photography as well. The better the original, the model as well as the photograph, the less that needs be done and the better the overall result.
What struck me about the Glenn images is the Halle Berry is just unfair, she's so pretty, most of the untouched photos look better than anyone else's well-done non-mannequin re-touched image. I've seen a few famous folks upclose and some are shockingly not like what we see on tv/movies/print. Brooke Shields (in 1981 or 82) was very plain and too too skinny. Winona Ryder at 13 was a nice looking girl, big eyes not too striking. Charlie Sheen at 19, holy hell that boy was pretty! Much prettier than he photographs, even in the morning, without makeup, perfect skin and just handsome as one would want a movie star to be. Gary Sinese looks so much like everyone else, its only those intense googly eyes that give him away, and it took me awhile to figure out who it was, and we were talking for 40 minutes! He was familiar but I couldn't place him. Glenn's work makes me feel better about mine and that HORROR site, /shudder, no one I've worked over looked that far from themselves much less human by the time I was done with the image! I've only done stuff that extreme to objects, buildings, textures, etc. Those child pagent photos are frightening in their homogeneity. I need to go take something to setting my stomach, those pics are scarier than, well just about anyting I've seen in a loooong time! _____________________
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Arcadia Codesmith
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08-05-2005 06:43
I was thinking of this thread today in conjunction with the flap over Dove's Real Beauty ad campaign. The campaign features non-models with body types closer to average women than emaciated supermodels. While it's gotten a lot of support from various groups, it's also generated a backlash. One columnist reportedly wrote that if he saw thighs that fat, they'd better be fried in breading and served in a bucket. This despite the fact that the women featured in the campaign are on the low side of average for American women!
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Nisa Stravinsky
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08-05-2005 06:59
One columnist reportedly wrote that if he saw thighs that fat, they'd better be fried in breading and served in a bucket. I went to the Dove site, and I saw those women and they were beautiful to me. The quote above really hurt my feelings. I'm as average as one can be considering, I'm Amerasian, 38, Mother of a 16 year old, 10 year cancer survivor, and I weigh in at 170lbs, down from 270 in November of last year. I'm proud of my accomplishments, and how dare anyone judge me for having thighs that aren't the size of 5' dowels!!! Let me wrap those around you and you won't care what size they are.. (heh) Before I saw Arcadia's link, I was feeling a little envious of the supermodels...flawed or photoshopped, but you know what I'm Fluffy and I'm beautiful!! if you don't like it, then it's your loss!! ok getting off that soap box, the work I've seen is amazing...both out on the web and even here in SL. I wish I had the talent to create visual art, but I'm a technical writer, my talent is in writing the manuals that bore you to sleep  _____________________
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