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Catherine Cotton
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06-29-2005 12:55
From: Chip Midnight Is that the same train wreck that was supposed to happen when they introduced land tiers?  aww come on now thats not too fair is it. Especialy when I have the answer waiting for you. for the sake of arguement a linden posted very recently that they are thinking about bringing taxes back for inventory. My my weren't tiers introduced after they got rid of taxes? Yes they were. From: someone The inventory is a significant portion of the load on the database (number of folders and items) and the asset storage system (number and size of items, including items that are embedded within other items). Many SL residents have rather large inventories, and we expect that eventually we're going to have to impose some policy that encourages residents to maintain their inventories below some number of items (total memory footprint of inventory is a bit harder to monitor and is less of an issue than number of items).
One option that has been kicked around the lab is a monthly (or weekly) per/item charge for items above some threshold. It would be possible to make the threshold a function of account type (premium vs basic) and/or land holdings.
The per/item charge could be viewed as a tax directly on inventory items, or as a charge for extra service." Andrew Linden |
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Schwanson Schlegel
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06-29-2005 12:55
From: Cristiano Midnight That reminds me - what I am most disappointed with about the new pricing is the fact that htere has been no adjustment to tier pricing in a year and a half. No increase in prims, yet a marked decrease in quality of servic. Certainly by now they could either reduce land tier prices or increase the amount of land in each tier. The economy of scale does not seem to benefit tier fees at all. My prediction is that we will see an increase in prim limits really soon..... The tier pricing I am not so sure about, I think it is a huge advantage (for LL) to keep them the same. That's not to say I wouldn't welcome more granularity in the tier structure. |
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Chip Midnight
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06-29-2005 12:59
From: Cristiano Midnight That reminds me - what I am most disappointed with about the new pricing is the fact that htere has been no adjustment to tier pricing in a year and a half. No increase in prims, yet a marked decrease in quality of servic. Certainly by now they could either reduce land tier prices or increase the amount of land in each tier. The economy of scale does not seem to benefit tier fees at all. I really haven't had any problems so the level of customer service hasn't changed in a way that's impacted me. I can only go by the experiences other people report. I'm still as satisfied as I've been all along. As far as land tiers, I'd really like to see it more finely grained, or even just a flat fee per meter. I'd buy more land than I have now but the next step up from the full sim tier is just too much to swallow.
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Catherine Cotton
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06-29-2005 12:59
From: Schwanson Schlegel My prediction is that we will see an increase in prim limits really soon.....
The tier pricing I am not so sure about, I think it is a huge advantage (for LL) to keep them the same. That's not to say I wouldn't welcome more granularity in the tier structure. What good would that do Swan? My first thought is "lag" nuf said. |
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Jauani Wu
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06-29-2005 12:59
From: Schwanson Schlegel My prediction is that we will see an increase in prim limits really soon...... i'm hoping it will come when they release the new rendering engine an upcoming update.
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Catherine Cotton
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06-29-2005 13:01
From: Daemioth Sklar Cat, don't waste your breath, you know they won't listen. All we can do really is watch the train wreck occur in slow motion. Nods  |
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Nauv DeFarge
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06-29-2005 13:02
Oh yay, thanks to that article we're going to get even more people coming to SL only for the money.
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Juro Kothari
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06-29-2005 13:03
From: Catherine Cotton aww come on now thats not too fair is it. Especialy when I have the answer waiting for you. for the sake of arguement a linden posted very recently that they are thinking about bringing taxes back for inventory. My my weren't tiers introduced after they got rid of taxes? Yes they were.
Let's not get all alarmist and start waiving the tax flag just yet. |
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Catherine Cotton
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06-29-2005 13:14
From: Juro Kothari To be fair, what Andrew said was "The per/item charge could be viewed as a tax directly on inventory items, or as a charge for extra service."
Let's not get all alarmist and start waiving the tax flag just yet. Alarmist no not at all. Have I learned to read the writing on the wall? Yes. Since when do the Lindens ask us our opinions then act on them. Its been more like; "this is what we are thinking about....and this is how it is......now deal with it" thats how i see things for the past year on average. |
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Deklax Fairplay
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06-29-2005 13:39
From: Andrew Linden One option that has been kicked around the lab is a monthly (or weekly) per/item charge for items above some threshold. It would be possible to make the threshold a function of account type (premium vs basic) and/or land holdings.
The per/item charge could be viewed as a tax directly on inventory items, or as a charge for extra service." Hahaha. Thanks for that link Catherine. I hope they do this so people have even less incentive to make/buy useless stuff (or also known as play SL).
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Chip Midnight
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06-29-2005 14:41
From: Deklax Fairplay Hahaha. Thanks for that link Catherine. I hope they do this so people have even less incentive to make/buy useless stuff (or also known as play SL). Why are you here?
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Cristiano Midnight
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06-29-2005 14:43
From: Juro Kothari To be fair, what Andrew said was "The per/item charge could be viewed as a tax directly on inventory items, or as a charge for extra service."
Let's not get all alarmist and start waiving the tax flag just yet. To be fair, it's really just semantics, Juro -whether you call it a tax, a surcharge, or service charge, it amounts to a luxury tax. Catherine is right about that.
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Cristiano Midnight
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06-29-2005 14:46
From: Chip Midnight I really haven't had any problems so the level of customer service hasn't changed in a way that's impacted me. I can only go by the experiences other people report. I'm still as satisfied as I've been all along.
As far as land tiers, I'd really like to see it more finely grained, or even just a flat fee per meter. I'd buy more land than I have now but the next step up from the full sim tier is just too much to swallow. That is because you are a skin baron! (eww)
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Chip Midnight
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06-29-2005 14:56
From: Cristiano Midnight That is because you are a skin baron! (eww) Mama always said I'd end up in the skin trade 
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Juro Kothari
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06-29-2005 15:05
From: Cristiano Midnight To be fair, it's really just semantics, Juro -whether you call it a tax, a surcharge, or service charge, it amounts to a luxury tax. Catherine is right about that.
Am I the only one *not* surprised by this? I'm sure we'll see other resources being tied to the amount of land you own or some other matrix. It makes sense and levels the playing field for everyone. |
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Juro Kothari
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06-29-2005 15:06
From: Catherine Cotton Alarmist no not at all. Have I learned to read the writing on the wall? Yes.
Since when do the Lindens ask us our opinions then act on them. Its been more like; "this is what we are thinking about....and this is how it is......now deal with it"
thats how i see things for the past year on average.
This is the situation - we can embrace it and enjoy SL or not. I know what I'm choosing. |
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Deklax Fairplay
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06-29-2005 17:39
From: Chip Midnight Why are you here? To annoy people like you on the forums
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Chip Midnight
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06-29-2005 17:52
From: Deklax Fairplay To annoy people like you on the forums hehe, well then... good job
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Anshe Chung
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06-29-2005 21:33
From: Deklax Fairplay Just out of curiousity.... Since last year is done and over - why does RL revenue by certain players, as reported in news releases, continue to grow? It was 100G, now 150... What next? AC the SL Millionaire? Wow! I think I should hire this reporter as my accountant 
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Ulrika Zugzwang
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06-29-2005 21:57
From: Anshe Chung Wow! I think I should hire this reporter as my accountant Wow! Yes you should. ~Ulrika~
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Catherine Cotton
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06-29-2005 23:00
From: Juro Kothari And, to our amazement, things keep going on and SL keeps growing and I, for one, keep having a blast.
This is the situation - we can embrace it and enjoy SL or not. I know what I'm choosing. I'm not amazed I expected it SL is a hell of a thing. Well um hmm. Town hall was interesting to say the least. I seem to have misplaced my pom pom's today. |
