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Cell phones in SL ??

Nimue Galatea
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Join date: 24 May 2004
Posts: 517
04-12-2005 13:28
From: Random Unsung
I've been given to understand that while Nexcom used to have weekly phonebills and chad made a fortune off them, he ditched them for some reason and now you don't have phone bills, as well you shouldn't for just using an in-game function that is free from the Lindens lol.

I'm also to understand that the advantage of the Nexcom system is that it is kind of hands-free, that is while you are building or something you can just type in your regular chat history right on your own lot, without pulling up an IM window of that person you're trying to reach, and just chatting there on your own lot, without using shout, they can hear you, on their lot in another sim. That seems like a convenience, but, is pulling up an IM window *really* that difficult? Still, chatting in your own lot's chat window without having to constantly switch to all those IMs could be a real convenience if you didn't mess it up.

I'm thinking the real allure is that it just gives a lot of people a chance to do what they do in RL, replicating RL: they can strut around with a cool designed tekkie thingie that has nice colours and fashions and have something on their profiles that looks like they are inner and connected LOL. What's not to like? It's the perfect gear for the sandbox set.



I'll tell you what really worries me about this set-up, now that you're explaining it. It looks to me like it is not unlike the telecom businesses of, oh, say, Lukashenka's Belarus. That is, because YOU encrypted it YOU can get into the conversations of thousands of people at any time! WOOT! You can do something that I think the Lindens themselves don't even bother to do. That gives you immense power over other players in the game. Frankly, I think that suxxors, big time kewl dewd. Why? Because you were the former FBI chief of the Alphaville Government in TSO? And whatever the sometimes-benign features of the AVG, well, any time somebody sets up a big intelligence network anywhere, well, we should all be a little careful, no?

It sounds like a sandbox sandstorm idea that has a lot of traction, but if you are helped in this endeavour by those who would turn all that encrypted access to private convos into power-plays for evil ends, well...who will protect us? No doubt those power-mongers just think they're the intelligent ones, surroudned by idiots, capable only of doing good...but silly me, I don't buy it...I just don't know...I hate it when big businesses in SL use their monopolists positions with technology like this, talking to THEIR servers OUTSIDE the game, gathering intelligence and business information they've harvested off players without their consent, to put to uses, when they haven't paid for such business information.

MySQL is YOUR SQUIRREL, dude gathering MY NUTS. You've got a server holding thousands of encrypted conversations of SL players? Huh? Geez, I'm not going to be getting a Nexcom phone any time soon. And it's not because I have anything to hide in my convos in game because my business is an open book.

Is yours?


*Big, hearty applause*
eRyan Pacer
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Join date: 26 Mar 2005
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04-15-2005 11:00
Nimue just update the phone, then you won't be billed any more :)
chad Statosky
Nexcom CEO
Join date: 3 Jun 2004
Posts: 66
04-20-2005 12:07
In version 2.5 we are implementing a way for you to change the channel you talk on to any channel you like ;) i do believe that will fix the bug you described :o

Wait ming you were making a phone system of your own. now exactly why are you bashing me?

Also, as I stated before Nexcom is a P2P network your conversations never travel through our servers.
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Ghoti Nyak
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04-20-2005 12:45
Never found much use for these things.

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ZsuZsanna Raven
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Join date: 19 Dec 2004
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04-20-2005 13:10
I work for a wireless company irl...there is no way in hell I would want a cellphone in SL. (especially when we have IM's for free) Seems a waste of money on something that is already available. I don't even want to see or hear about a cellphone when I am not at work. I don't like to think about work related things if I am not at work :D
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Lindar Lehane
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Join date: 13 Mar 2005
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04-20-2005 13:33
OMG

You mean the claimed "encryption" begins with transmission to the device on a fixed known single digit channel or two?

Is that a flagrant exploitation of the trusting ignorant or what ?

And what is all this about the message going out of world and coming back? What is that for unless to make a recording ? (And squander server bandwidth for no good reason)

This thread takes me completely aback. Surely I have misunderstood something ?
Lindar Lehane
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04-20-2005 15:45
I'm assuming these messages arrive by IM?
Email to the device would be too slow.
And of course he can't have a shouting server within 96m of every point in SL ?
chad Statosky
Nexcom CEO
Join date: 3 Jun 2004
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04-21-2005 11:44
You mean the claimed "encryption" begins with transmission to the device on a fixed known single digit channel or two?


---- Ok the encryption was aimed to keep people from illegally using our serivce, Monitoring the dataflow, and hacking into our servers, yet it does keep the data secure.

Nexcom is made up of 3 main servers and 2 firewalls, our security is a bit extreme.
we have 2 MySQL boxes one slave and one master. Then we also have a postfix box that can respond with XML-RPC. Overall the system works flawlessly.

---- Version 2.5 is scheduled to be released Saturday, it has an angile channel onboard so you can specify another channel instead of 2.



And what is all this about the message going out of world and coming back? What is that for unless to make a recording ? (And squander server bandwidth for no good reason)

---- Messages never leave linden servers all our dataserver does is store the key of your phone and enable the other phones to access that data so they can contact it.
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Alondria LeFay
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04-21-2005 19:59
From: chad Statosky
You mean the claimed "encryption" begins with transmission to the device on a fixed known single digit channel or two?


---- Ok the encryption was aimed to keep people from illegally using our serivce, Monitoring the dataflow, and hacking into our servers, yet it does keep the data secure.

Nexcom is made up of 3 main servers and 2 firewalls, our security is a bit extreme.
we have 2 MySQL boxes one slave and one master. Then we also have a postfix box that can respond with XML-RPC. Overall the system works flawlessly.


Not to knock your company or product (hey, if you can sell them, more power to you IMHO), but why the heck do you need 3 servers and two (presumably) firewall appliance to just do resolutions of a phone number to an UUID? Seems like serious overkill (unless we are talking old boxes).
chad Statosky
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Join date: 3 Jun 2004
Posts: 66
04-27-2005 11:33
nexcom in a colocated datacenter. We have 100% up time. Our hosting location has iris scanners and key cards to ensure no one can access our boxes. Both firewalls are the same Nokia rigs. The MySQL boxes are both dual xeons with uber ram, and the Postfix box is a a single P4. The reason for the overkill is that we have 1500 users relying on us to provide commincations and downtime can stall bussiness. The firewalls cost me nearly nothing to operate.The Whole rig cost around $180 a month. So why not?
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chad Statosky
Nexcom CEO
Join date: 3 Jun 2004
Posts: 66
04-27-2005 11:50
Nexcom now has full PBX support. Call automated systems for companies, and allow Your phones to connect to automated chatrooms. PBX systems can find the first available operator and transfer the call.

Contact chad statosky in game to setup a Custom PBX solution for your Orginization.
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Zonax Delorean
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04-27-2005 12:54
From: chad Statosky
The reason for the overkill is that we have 1500 users relying on us to provide commincations and downtime can stall bussiness.


Wow, still impressive. I was once at a company that had about that much (5) computers supporting 100 000-150 000 webmail users :-) Of course, of those 5, not one was a dedicated firewall, too strict budget.
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