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Dianne Mechanique
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06-24-2005 12:13
Hello,

I have been neg-rating the spammers who send out those IM's to the whole world asking for ten bucks. I do this cause spam really bugs me and I think this is a relatively new thing, so there might be the opportunity ot nip it in the bud sort of speak if everyone does it.

Am I wrong?
Does anyone else do this?

It's trivialy easy to do and if a spammer sent out a hundred messages and got a hundred neg rates back, I think the idea of doing this sort of thing might never get popular.

Or perhpas I am over-reacting?

I notice it's making my profile look like I am *the* most judgemental person in the world considering all the pos rates I hand out as well.

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David Valentino
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06-24-2005 12:22
I just close the IM and go about my business. Not worth the effort or L$.
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Colette Meiji
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06-24-2005 12:26
this is that "Please give me $10 so I can upload a texture, person?"
Ulrika Zugzwang
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06-24-2005 12:27
This is what neg rates were made for! Have at. :)

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Jonquille Noir
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06-24-2005 12:39
I don't think you're wrong for neg-rating, but I wouldn't waste the $75L m'self.

Thankfully, I haven't received any of the spam, *knocks on wood* but that's incredibly tacky.
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Travis Lambert
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06-24-2005 12:54
heh - everyone in the Sheter got hit with that message about a week ago.

Which is rather humorous, considering most of the folks that hang out with us are newbies without a lot of cash.

When it happened last week, we all had a lively discussion on what to do next. Neg Rating was quickly discounted because that's well..... expensive :D

Not to mention, I've never neg rated anyone before - and wasn't about to start.


So instead, we all sent him notecards. Lots, and Lots of notecards. :D
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Katja Marlowe
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06-24-2005 13:01
Good to hear I wasn't the only one that got this! *grin* I was wondering about that last night, when I got the random, help me upload textures give me 100L or anything you have please.

I probably wouldn't neg rate either, why waste the 25 to 75L?

UNLESS

they did it more than once to me, then I'd seriously consider it :)
Cocoanut Koala
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06-24-2005 13:07
Yeah, the one I got last night was for $100 for uploading textures. I told him I'd get back to him in a bit. Later, I remembered it was still waiting there, and he said he needed money to upload textures, or anything I could give him, so I offered to give him some of the free textures I've collected.

He didn't respond. I suppose he had specific textures he had already collected himself that he wanted to upload. ;)

coco
Min Unsung
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Join date: 30 Mar 2005
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06-24-2005 13:08
I received an invite to join a group for the low price of $10L. A self proclaimed 'criminal' group.....

Min Unsung: please refrain from sending me ANY group invites, let alone those that would line UR pockets....TY
JW: it's not all about me
JW: i don't use a L$1 for my self, the monet is used to advance weponary
JW: i hope for each member to recieve the best gun availible
JW: and we support all our members equally
JW: if you have a problem in SL, IM the UCSL and we will arrive shortly for your assistance
JW: sorry for the inconvenience, this is a criminal organism bound by protection and peace of all Union members !
JW: Beware: don't cross us

That last bit of advice made me chuckle.
Dianne Mechanique
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06-24-2005 14:56
From: Jonquille Noir
I don't think you're wrong for neg-rating, but I wouldn't waste the $75L m'self.

Thankfully, I haven't received any of the spam, *knocks on wood* but that's incredibly tacky.
Well I am not doing the triple neg because being a jerk is not the same thing as being bad builder.
You only have to go to the sandbox to see that. :)

It's really just 25 bucks and a trip to their house or something they built to rate them.

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Dianne Mechanique
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06-24-2005 14:58
From: Travis Lambert
heh - everyone in the Sheter got hit with that message about a week ago.

Which is rather humorous, considering most of the folks that hang out with us are newbies without a lot of cash.

When it happened last week, we all had a lively discussion on what to do next. Neg Rating was quickly discounted because that's well..... expensive :D

Not to mention, I've never neg rated anyone before - and wasn't about to start.


So instead, we all sent him notecards. Lots, and Lots of notecards. :D
Yikes!
To me that would be worse, but it sounds like you thought about it before you did it.

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Blayze Raine
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06-24-2005 14:59
I got this spam yesterday, the "can I have 100L to upload textures?"

I told the guy I was broke because I just donated my last 10L to helping the homeless people in SL so they could eat.

He never replied *shrugs*
Jonquille Noir
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06-24-2005 15:00
From: Dianne Mechanique
Well I am not doing the triple neg because being a jerk is not the same thing as being bad builder.
You only have to go to the sandbox to see that. :)

It's really just 25 bucks and a trip to their house or something they built to rate them.

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True. You can tell how often I rate from not knowing how much it costs. :)

My suggestion... Each time you get a spam for this kind of thing, get everyone you know to spam them back with requests for $25L each so you can neg rate them.
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Dianne Mechanique
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06-24-2005 15:00
From: Katja Marlowe
Good to hear I wasn't the only one that got this! *grin* I was wondering about that last night, when I got the random, help me upload textures give me 100L or anything you have please.

I probably wouldn't neg rate either, why waste the 25 to 75L?

UNLESS

they did it more than once to me, then I'd seriously consider it :)
Well yeah I started doing it cause it happened so much.
I have neg rated twice now and I think I waited until the third or fourth time before I did it.

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Dianne Mechanique
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06-24-2005 15:04
From: Min Unsung
I received an invite to join a group for the low price of $10L. A self proclaimed 'criminal' group.....

Min Unsung: please refrain from sending me ANY group invites, let alone those that would line UR pockets....TY
JW: it's not all about me
JW: i don't use a L$1 for my self, the monet is used to advance weponary
JW: i hope for each member to recieve the best gun availible
JW: and we support all our members equally
JW: if you have a problem in SL, IM the UCSL and we will arrive shortly for your assistance
JW: sorry for the inconvenience, this is a criminal organism bound by protection and peace of all Union members !
JW: Beware: don't cross us

That last bit of advice made me chuckle.
Yes. These new "criminal" gangs and "mafia" type families are sooo childish IMO.

I think their mothers should keep better track of their credit cards, or send them to bed without supper or something.

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Dianne Mechanique
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06-24-2005 15:11
From: Jonquille Noir
True. You can tell how often I rate from not knowing how much it costs. :)

My suggestion... Each time you get a spam for this kind of thing, get everyone you know to spam them back with requests for $25L each so you can neg rate them.
Yeah before this I hardly neg rated at all.

That is kinda why I posted, it is actually making me feel bad a bit to do it.
(at least after the inital adrenelin rush of doing it fades...)

:)

oh, and two wrongs dont make a right :p
(no matter how really really really really good it would feel)
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Jonquille Noir
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06-24-2005 15:12
From: Dianne Mechanique
oh, and two wrongs dont make a right :p
(no matter how really really really really good it would feel)
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Pfft, you and your logic and lofty ideals. ;)
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Jake Reitveld
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06-24-2005 16:46
Hey everyone, please give me ten linden so I can upload the textures to make my parthenon complete.

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Caliandris Pendragon
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Ok, so I'm a sucker...
06-24-2005 17:50
Being a trusting sort of person, I gave this avatar 100 lindens for his alleged texture upload yesterday. It wasn't until my alt was hit with exactly the same request this morning that I realised it was a scam.

As other people have said. any repsonse other than dropping the money is ignored.
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Siggy Romulus
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06-24-2005 18:09
From: Min Unsung

JW: if you have a problem in SL, IM the UCSL and we will arrive shortly for your assistance
JW: sorry for the inconvenience, this is a criminal organism bound by protection and peace of all Union members !
JW: Beware: don't cross us

That last bit of advice made me chuckle.


haha makes me chuckle when I get those things too :) my reply to 'dunt cross us dewd' is usually along the line of 'Bring it on..'

I have a whole directory of asshatery I don't bring out too often -- but sometimes you gotta let people know they shouldn't bark like a dog when they piss like puppies :)

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Siggy Romulus
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06-24-2005 18:13
From: Dianne Mechanique

Or perhpas I am over-reacting?

I notice it's making my profile look like I am *the* most judgemental person in the world considering all the pos rates I hand out as well.
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I don't think you're overreacting at all - and seeing how your rating 'behavior' - I think you're using the tools as they are intended... you find that behaviour undesirable, and letting them know...

Groups I tend to handle a little differently - you can expect a certain amount of chat on any group channel.. if a group gets too 'spammy' I just leave it.. if I'm asked why I left I let them know (politely) that I find excessive group chat annoying and distracting while I'm trying to build or script..

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Siggy Romulus
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06-24-2005 18:18
From: Cocoanut Koala
Yeah, the one I got last night was for $100 for uploading textures. I told him I'd get back to him in a bit. Later, I remembered it was still waiting there, and he said he needed money to upload textures, or anything I could give him, so I offered to give him some of the free textures I've collected.

He didn't respond. I suppose he had specific textures he had already collected himself that he wanted to upload. ;)

coco


When people ask for money - I usually direct them to Chip Midnight's place.. I tell them about the 'Chip Midnight Mystical Adoration Prayer Rug' he has there, and if they 'worship' on it, it will give them free money.

What I don't tell them is that it only gives out 1$ per 2 minutes or so of worship (I knows this coz I made the rug) :)

So if they feel like worshipping Chip for 200 minutes, they can upload to their hearts content..

Hmm this does give me an idea.. maybe I should do up some scripts/animations to allow people to become 'human furniture'... pay them a few bucks for every minute, but they have to provide a service to collect it... and lets face it, AV's taking up no prims, its the ultimate in low prim building!

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Derry McTeague
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06-24-2005 20:48
I got the im from this avie too asking for money to upload textures.I cant believe the nerve and audacity of some people and the fact that they think everyone here is so stupid and gullible. Although I didnt give this stranger any money, I did create a texture for him and dropped it in his inventory, but somehow I dont think he's gonna like it too much.
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SuezanneC Baskerville
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06-24-2005 22:41
Would this be a TOS violation under section " 5. USER CONDUCT 5.1 Participant Conduct"
"...(vii) upload, post, email or otherwise transmit any unsolicited or unauthorized advertising, promotional materials, "junk mail," "spam," "chain letters," "pyramid schemes," or any other form of solicitation;"

This might be an "otherwise transmit" spam or "any other form of solicitation".

Several hundred abuse reports from non-affiliated people might induce action on the Linden's part.
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Cienna Samiam
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06-24-2005 23:48
More importantly -- how it is suddenly possible to send this spam to large groups of people? Or am I misunderstanding this? Is this one person just randomly spitting IMs to those in the area... or someone has managed to script something using... oh... the key database? -curious look-
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