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SL Prostitution

Darwin Appleby
I Was Beaten With Satan
Join date: 14 Mar 2003
Posts: 2,779
09-16-2003 19:35
If this isn't PG, please delete it without a second thought Lindens, but I promise I'll be tactful :)

How about an SL prostitution agency? Something like cybersex in Mature sims or IM? I think it's do-able, (but I'm not going to do it; that's just gross) what do you guys think?
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Coyote Murphy
Beelphazoaric
Join date: 12 Aug 2003
Posts: 91
09-16-2003 19:37
a) amazed it hasn't happened yet;
b) thankful.
Darwin Appleby
I Was Beaten With Satan
Join date: 14 Mar 2003
Posts: 2,779
09-16-2003 19:38
I think I let out a can of worms.
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Misnomer Jones
3 is the magic number
Join date: 27 Jan 2003
Posts: 1,800
09-16-2003 19:48
I'd be pretty shocked if this was a new idea. Ive seen some gals clad in bare minimums talking the talk in the welcome center some time back.
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James Miller
Village Idiot
Join date: 9 Jan 2003
Posts: 1,500
09-16-2003 19:57
Oh boy, this is...hrm...I must say, I don't like this idea. I think this would seriously ruin part of SL. It might be interesting, just as a joke, however, I don't want to see an entire industry sprout up around this topic.
Zebulon Starseeker
Hujambo!
Join date: 31 Dec 1969
Posts: 203
09-16-2003 20:32
Geez Darwin, only you could bring up something like this.
In Hawthorn (i think) there's a club called 'Club Blue' that supposed to be a cyber IM joint, though i don't think it's goin anywhere.
I tend to think there would be too much negativity associated with this concept unless it was done all in good fun....which in a way, you see it all the time, hehe. Well, folks dressed as prostitutes anyway...
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Jay Powers
Mostly Harmless
Join date: 8 May 2003
Posts: 31
09-16-2003 20:46
Interesting subject. My short answer pretty much echoes Coyote's. Longer answer: there are three things that need consideration.

Legality
Morality
Practicality

Legality. My guess is it's kind of like Nevada; solicitation just anywhere on the street would be a no-no, but within the confines of mature sims, if no one in a PG sim is exposed, maybe legal, or at least not explicitly illegal.

Morality. Regardless of the metaphor, and suspension of disbelief, and treating SL as a real world, the fact is, what we're talking about is a combination of avatar and costume design, av behavior generated by keyboard and mouse input, and chat (and maybe, if you go all out, some clever scripting). Opinions will vary, but to me, none of that seems terribly immoral.

Practicality. I don't have much experience where this stuff is concerned. I assume there are specific "services" that are requested/tendered in these, um, "transactions." In which case payment up front for a contracted set of deliverables should be mutually agreeable to both parties. As in most service industries, I can see a role for an agency in pairing customers with service providers, and taking a percentage of payment in fee. Whether service providers need such an agency as much as they might in the real world (for protection and vetting of prospective clients, say), is debatable. Actually, where an agency might have a role here is in protecting the customer, for example, to assure those who care about such things that real world gender matches SL gender, while protecting service provider identities.

I think I'm thinking about this too much. I will try to stop.

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Daemioth Sklar
Lifetime Member
Join date: 30 Jul 2003
Posts: 944
09-16-2003 21:07
Personally, I have no desire to utilize a service like this. However, for sake of argument and defending the right to "be whatever you want to be, do whatever you want to do"--a Second Life Motto--I have to say I think that an agency of this can have a place in Second Life--but only only only in Mature sims, of course. I think--hey, lots of people have a pain in the neck time making money. If a few text-jobs brings in some $, who am I to say "That's just wrong!" Mature sims can handle this kind of "immorality."

If they couldn't, there would not be the option of nudity in SL nor would there be the incoming crotch lump in 1.1.
David Cartier
Registered User
Join date: 8 Jun 2003
Posts: 1,018
Re: SL Prostitution
09-16-2003 22:05
Darwin I actually thought of a good game: SL Big Brother. All the contestants have to spend their inworld time in a house with you, lol. The walls would be transparent from the outside so you'd never know if you were being watched or not - aside from the map.
From: someone
Originally posted by Darwin Appleby
If this isn't PG, please delete it without a second thought Lindens, but I promise I'll be tactful :)

How about an SL prostitution agency? Something like cybersex in Mature sims or IM? I think it's do-able, (but I'm not going to do it; that's just gross) what do you guys think?
Chip Midnight
ate my baby!
Join date: 1 May 2003
Posts: 10,231
09-16-2003 22:28
From: someone
Originally posted by Jay Powers
where an agency might have a role here is in protecting the customer


"I said specifically on the phone that I wanted her to be 9 feet tall, bright blue, and have a third eye and wings! I'm not paying!"
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Dave Zeeman
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Join date: 28 Jan 2003
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09-16-2003 23:21
When we get custom gestures Darwin...
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...when we get custom gestures... :cool:
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Loki Pico
Registered User
Join date: 20 Jun 2003
Posts: 1,938
09-16-2003 23:27
I have been exploring the world pretty extensively the last couple of weeks and actually visited most all the current builds.

This service is already available.
BlackAdder York
Charter Member
Join date: 22 May 2003
Posts: 283
09-16-2003 23:40
A sad, pathetic sort of idea there, Darwin. :rolleyes:

Naturally I'm all for it. Just wondering what the tax and rating consequences should be. There are clearly some important social skills involved; e.g. pimping, streetwalking, soliciting, etc. I'd be in favor of taxes being assessed on the Johns based upon actual time spent actively....

Most importantly of all, do trial members get to participate? Or should they only be allowed to watch from a safe distance?

Oh, and Loki...sims and coordinates please???
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Loki Pico
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Join date: 20 Jun 2003
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09-17-2003 04:45
BlackAdder, on this one, your on your own. You trying to turn me into a pimp?
BlackAdder York
Charter Member
Join date: 22 May 2003
Posts: 283
09-17-2003 05:22
From: someone
Originally posted by Loki Pico
BlackAdder, on this one, your on your own. You trying to turn me into a pimp?
You can't blame me for asking. I assure you it was strictly for purposes of, um, sociological research. :o

Am I to understand that you don't already have a pimp AV in your bag of tricks?

Anyway, it was Darwin who promised to be tactful, not me.
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Coyote Murphy
Beelphazoaric
Join date: 12 Aug 2003
Posts: 91
09-17-2003 05:26
Chip, that was totally beautiful.
Alondria LeFay
Registered User
Join date: 2 May 2003
Posts: 725
09-17-2003 05:43
Darwin, going to be a little pissy if every immature bloke and their cousin start a brothal now...... It's bad enough that it is plagueing every other corner of the internet.
Bosozoku Kato
insurrectionist midget
Join date: 16 Jun 2003
Posts: 452
09-17-2003 06:06
How much for the monkey? I want to hire Derek. How much for a couple minutes? All I need is a couple minutes. $L5 sound fair?

How much for the monkey AND Darwin dressed like a hippo? Same time frame, that's more than enough for them I'm sure.. I shall wear them out.

Thanks,
Boso
Devlin Gallant
Thought Police
Join date: 18 Jun 2003
Posts: 5,948
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09-17-2003 07:04
Awright you mooks, you listen up real good, see. This is tresspassing on MY turf now. I be da one what controls dis kinda woik. Da streetwalkas, da garbage pickup, da unions... dey is all mine. Soon da gambling is going in my pocket too. I is gonna become like a silent partner, see. I spect Dave Zeeman, Ama Omega, Tiamat, and da udders to toe da line here, and fork over da dough. It would be a shame ta see dem lovely casinos go up in flames. But, back to da topic. Any wanna be pros, pimps and crossdressers bedda be coming ta see me fer a license, see. Udderwise it gonna be very hard fer youse to woik wit broken legs and fingers. So, if youse is out dere walking da street, and gots no license from me, den youse best be specting a visit from a liddle yeller guy wit a gun. Nuff said.

Mob Boss Devlin 'Knuckles' Gallant
Candie Apple
Senior Mumbler
Join date: 1 Apr 2003
Posts: 477
09-17-2003 07:08
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Marilyn Murphy
Obeys Her Toaster
Join date: 23 Jul 2003
Posts: 361
09-17-2003 07:22
well. i found an abandoned strip joint in da boom when i first came to the game. it gave me an idea. i designed a stripper bar that is close to one i worked in in rl.
the first one was closed because it was owned by a guy. he was not making money, the girls were.
now, we have a club owned by the girls, and it has been very successful.
the bottom line is, if the operation is owned by a guy, what is the incentive for a girl to work it? she does all the work and then pays some guy to let her do it? good luck.
no, the only way for this to work is for the girls to own it and make their own money.
the club itself loses money to taxes. its really just a place to coordinate the effort. the money is made by each individual girl using the club as a base. i pay for the club with my earnings as a dancer. its not hard.
as to prostitution, i would be just terrible at it, and its not my desire, so i will just be a dancer. thats enuff for me, and it has done well by the girls who belong to my club.
so, any guys who are wanting to form some sort of prostitution thing, lol, if u find women who will give u a cut of their earnings, u have found some pretty slow girls, and good luck to u.:p
Nicole Miller
Pixel Pervert
Join date: 10 Jan 2003
Posts: 185
09-17-2003 09:12
From: someone
Originally posted by James Miller
Oh boy, this is...hrm...I must say, I don't like this idea. I think this would seriously ruin part of SL. It might be interesting, just as a joke, however, I don't want to see an entire industry sprout up around this topic.


James, let's not go there.
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Justice Monde
Boatbuilder
Join date: 13 Jul 2003
Posts: 78
09-17-2003 09:18
Prostitution? All for it. What would be most helpful is an input device that requires no hands...

Instead of the keyboard-typing gesture & sounds, can you imagine?

This sort of thing (if done in privacy) is certainly less harmful than your average "contraband" online relationship - generally kept hidden from spouses. Harmless stuff, really, and potentially fun? If that's your thing, I suppose it could be! :)

-J
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Lola Bombay
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Join date: 6 Sep 2003
Posts: 116
09-17-2003 09:56
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Lola Bombay
Secular Humanist
Join date: 6 Sep 2003
Posts: 116
09-17-2003 11:10
God forbid anyone express sexuality.. I thought it was required to be 18+ play anyway?

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