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Hiro Pendragon
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04-11-2005 23:29
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Lianne Marten
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04-12-2005 00:02
Too bad they missed... still, I can see how it could have happened, pies are tricky aerodynamically.
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Champie Jack
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04-12-2005 00:11
yeah, and it's always funny until someone gets their eye poked out.
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Champie Jack
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04-12-2005 00:23
And this wasnt a one time thing. This kind of assault has happened to at least 2 others: Bill Krystal and David Horowitz.
This is similar to pulling out a toy gun on an unsuspecting person. I hope the next person who tries this runs into someone prepared to defend themselves. It would be great to watch some asshole intent on smashing a pie in someones face get all their teeth knocked out while trying. Now, that would be funny, and justice would be served. Ignorant self-righteous liberal extremists _____________________
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Chance Abattoir
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04-12-2005 01:46
Ignorant self-righteous liberal extremists X: Watch out, they're getting extreme! Y: Firebombs? X: No, pies! What if she's lactose intolerant? Y: The horror. ![]() _____________________
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Champie Jack
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04-12-2005 02:07
do you want to play out a scenario Chance??
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Chance Abattoir
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04-12-2005 02:17
do you want to play out a scenario Chance?? I have all kinds of thoughts about how immature and wreckless behavior like this could lead to serious injury. Are you suggesting we throw pies at each other? ![]() That sounds like fun. I don't mind being hurt so long as it's not a permanent impairment. It will be just like bottle rocket fights, only not dangerous (and creamy). _____________________
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Champie Jack
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04-12-2005 03:08
You win. You are having too much fun, and I don't want to spoil that for you.
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Selador Cellardoor
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04-12-2005 03:10
Champie,
<<yeah, and it's always funny until someone gets their eye poked out.>> You sound exactly like my mother. ![]() _____________________
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Hiro Pendragon
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04-12-2005 03:16
do you want to play out a scenario Chance?? I have all kinds of thoughts about how immature and wreckless behavior like this could lead to serious injury. Unlike Ann's continuous spew of slander, which is innocuous and well-reasoned? *snickers* _____________________
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Champie Jack
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04-12-2005 03:47
lets be fair Hiro..
When I dont like what you say I dont have the right to assualt you. Or do I? If I do, let me know where you will be appearing publicly in the near future. I will try to make my attack "creamy" with a diary substitute, but I cannot guarantee that you won't be alarmed by my sudden and very unexpected assualt. You may be alarmed to such a degree that you shit your pants, fall down and crack your skull, run into another person and injure them, or any other possible negative effects of my hypothetical stupidity. liberalism may very well be a mental discorder as Michael Savage describes... _____________________
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Daemioth Sklar
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04-12-2005 04:51
lets be fair Hiro.. liberalism may very well be a mental discorder as Michael Savage describes... Right... You're sounding particularly sane after that one. _____________________
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Champie Jack
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04-12-2005 05:18
Right... You're sounding particularly sane after that one. What is your point Daemioth? Do you think my question was insane, or my comment about Liberalism? _____________________
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Champie Jack
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04-12-2005 05:20
nevermind Daemioth, I just read your sig. If you believe what it states, then you are not qualified to judge the sanity of anything
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04-12-2005 05:33
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Arcadia Codesmith
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04-12-2005 05:53
Liberal activists toss pies. Conservative activists bomb clinics and shoot doctors.
Who's got the mental disorder? (Apart from Ann Coulter, but that's a given). |
Shadow Weaver
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04-12-2005 05:58
It's hard to say which way she swings but apparently someone has left a bad taste in her mouth in the past.
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Rebeccah Baysklef
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When pies are outlawed, only outlaws have pies
04-12-2005 06:29
lets be fair Hiro.. liberalism may very well be a mental discorder as Michael Savage describes... Hmmmmmmmmmm. Michael Savage and Ann Coulter make dumptrucks of money essentially infering that millions upon millions upon millions of regular Americans are somehow a "diseased underclass" that, who are traitors to this nation, need to be locked up in asylums, camps, etc etc. Make just tons and tons of dollars dividing Americans against each other, and creating this whole "red vs blue" nonsense...primarily for their own benefit. And when someone finally decides to react to the bile the spew out, Neo-conservatives are suddenly crying out "help help! We're under attack! Wah! We don't want to take responsibility for our own actions! FOR GOD'S SAKE, THEY ARE ATTACKING US WITH PIES! PIES!!!!!" Remind me again how "liberals" are supposed to be the whiney ones? Remind me again how the GOP is the party of personal responsibility? I do have to ask..if the tactic itself is so bad, would you be equally in a huff if someone went and pied Al Franken or Janine Garafelo? |
Xtopherxaos Ixtab
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04-12-2005 07:13
Though I do agree that she's a hot-aired filled asshat, I also agree that these protesters are committing assault. Think about it, would it be as funny if it was Maya Angelou getting overrun by a couple of hippies who then try to spike pies in her face? What if it was a kid? and elderly person? It seems all good and harmless when it's a person who is disagreeable. I hope that in the future conservative speakers will hire a few linebacker sized security guards to stand just off stage in the three-point position....when a hippy runs on stage, they plant him head-first into the floor, Ray Lewis-style.
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Hiro Pendragon
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04-12-2005 07:21
Though I do agree that she's a hot-aired filled asshat, I also agree that these protesters are committing assault. No doubt. A misdemeanor level one, at that. Think about it, would it be as funny if it was Maya Angelou getting overrun by a couple of hippies who then try to spike pies in her face? She's not arrogant or slanderous... it wouldn't be as funny. What if it was a kid? and elderly person? So? Should we practice age discrimination in pie throwing? LOL It seems all good and harmless when it's a person who is disagreeable. Yes. Exactly. Even Bush doesn't deserve the pie - he was at least "elected" and holds a public office. I hope that in the future conservative speakers will hire a few linebacker sized security guards to stand just off stage in the three-point position....when a hippy runs on stage, they plant him head-first into the floor, Ray Lewis-style. pffft: (a) Wahhhh! I need a linebacker to defend against pies! Wahhhh! (b) WahhhH! I need a linebacker to defend against scrawny hippies! Wahhh! How about the conservative or whomever just do the body checking themselves? Guarantee that will win votes / gain ratings! _____________________
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Rebeccah Baysklef
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04-12-2005 07:23
Oh, I agree in principle. Yes, pieing is assault, and if these folks are caught, they should be prosecuted to the full extent of the law On the other hand, it's not exactly what one would call an intimidating tactic designed to quell free speech. And, as everyone knows, free speech has consequences. The Neo-Cons complain and whine about "pieing", while on the other hand, practically endorse the people who make death threats and take shots at judges who deliver verdicts that they do not like. Damn..hypocracy detector just blew a fuse again.
On a completely..well..only semi-related track, because someone brought up anti-abortion protestors who assault people with bombs and bullets (and notice that Ann and Michael never say anything to condemn these sorts of people), what the hell ever happened with Richard Jewel? Did the guy ever get an apology? The man was a god damn hero, helping to save people the night of the Atlanta bombing, and he had his life ruined by the damn media. Did he ever get a real apology? A real thank you? When they found the anti-abortion protestor who actually set the bomb, was there a huge outpouring of support and vindication for Richard? Sorry, off topic, I know, but this was actually bothering me last night.... |
Reitsuki Kojima
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04-12-2005 07:57
Michael Savage and Ann Coulter make dumptrucks of money essentially infering that millions upon millions upon millions of regular Americans are somehow a "diseased underclass" that, who are traitors to this nation, need to be locked up in asylums, camps, etc etc. Make just tons and tons of dollars dividing Americans against each other, and creating this whole "red vs blue" nonsense...primarily for their own benefit. Savage is a nut. And I listen to and like Rush, so I guess that's saying something. Rush is an OK guy as long as you remember that 95% of his "Attitude" is just joking. He's a lot less egotistical than most liberals - and a lot of conservatives - think. Doesn't mean I always agree - I definetly parted company with him on the Shaivo case, for example - with him on every issue, but he's fun to listen to. That said, I'm gonna paraphrase Champie... "lets be fair here". The left has done it's fair share of the "red vs blue"-ing of America, calling the other side morons and bible thumping idiots and all sorts of other lables, saying that bush is a monkey/idiot/evil/nazi/hitler-esq/murderer/whatever, saying that anyone who voted for bush is a monkey/idiot/evil/nazi/hitler-esq/murderer/whatever, saying there needs to be an invasion of America, and all sorts of other fun crap. I'm not defending some of the nonsense my side spews, don't get me wrong. But understand that both sides do it, don't make it out like the left has any sort of moral highground to preach from in that regard. This is why anything regarding politics is generaly a waste of time on the internet. Both sides are so full of hate and derision that they don't even try to actually discuss anything, it just degenerates into name-calling and mockery. I always see people say "I don't discuss politics with friends"... That's a troubling notion. It means that either your friends aren't really all that much of a friend, or that you are just incapable of discussing politics in a civil matter. Some of my best friends are quite liberal. We discuss politics all the time. It's civil, it's polite, and neither side walks away mad or insulted. Party loyalty is such a stupid concept. I'd far rather parties were abandoned and people ran simply on issues, but that's not really possible... It would automaticly gravitate towards a party-based system anyways. Here are some helpful hints to keep political debate civil on the 'net: 1) Before slinging a wad of mud at the 'other side', make sure your party isn't guilty of the same thing. Otherwise you just come off looking like a jackass. And I'll tell you this right now: Your party is guilty of it. I don't care what your talking about, or which party you are, your party is probably guilty of it. This is politics, after all. End result? Stop slinging mud. Debate issues, don't attack. 2) Don't assume your party is perfect. It isn't. This is similar to point 1, but slightly different: If you agree with /everything/ your party does, or hell, even everything one /canidate/ does, you are a sheep. Plain and simple. These people are human. They aren't perfect. For example, I don't like my party's (I'm nominaly a republican) stance on homosexuality, at all. I don't agree with Bush's policies sometimes. I'm able to admit he isn't perfect, and I don't brush them aside with "Oh, it doesn't matter". If you can't do the same, regardless of if you are conservative or liberal, there isn't any point to discussing things. 3) Don't attack people for holding an opinion. It isn't called for. It's not going to accomplish anything (I promise you, nobody is going to go "Oh, you're right, I am a moron." after you call him one), and it's going to make you look like a jackass for having done so, not make the person you insulted look like one. This one can be hard - and hell, I've broken it a number of times -, but try your best. Yes, when someone comes in defending what appears to be the obviously indefensable, it may be hard. But if you actually want to accomplish anything, it's not the right way to do it. Now, of course, if all you WANT to do is be an ass and insult people, feel free to ignore these suggestions. * As to the incident in question here... Hey, I chuckled when Bill Gates got pied in the face a couple years back too. But it's not ok. No matter how harmless it may seem, it is assault. As to the question of would I be saying the same if it was someone I didn't like? I'll be honest. Probably not. But ya know what? I bet there would be plenty of people who say this IS funny wouldn't think that the opposite would be, either. Like I said before: We're all human. We all suck. _____________________
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Xtopherxaos Ixtab
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04-12-2005 08:09
No doubt. A misdemeanor level one, at that. Hiro, I do get your point on this, and I do agree that many conservative do indeed need a strong dose of humility training. My point is this: In this era which is best described as being super-thin when it comes to original thought, and one which is also best described as being super-ultra sensitive when it comes to individual rights...is it a great idea to embrace these morons who openly assault public figures, albeit with pastries? You know that this trend will eventually make its way into other areas of protest...what happens then? When Jessie Jackson (ok, he I can find fault with) gets planted in the mug by some white or latino guy, who then gets mauled to death by the Reverand's entourage...will we all call it innocent, light-hearted protesting...or a vile racist attack on the good Rev, followed by a lynching? I know it's a bit "chicken-little"-esque, but think about the world today. _____________________
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Rebeccah Baysklef
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04-12-2005 08:13
I pretty much agree wholeheartedly with you, Reitsuki. I have been very turned off by the amount of hypocracy and craziness coming out of politics, especially over the last four years.
However, I hate to say it, it's been my own, personal opinion that the Neo-Conservatives (I use this term to distinguish the group from True Conservatives, with whom I have several points of common agreement with, believe it or not) have been just a wee bit more guilty in terms of not owning up to their own mistakes, engaging in the same behavior that they accuse others of doing, and essentially trying to divide America up for their own benefit. If you ever saw John Stewart railing on Crossfire right before the election...that is where my mind is. The Daily Show is my bread and butter these days. |
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04-12-2005 08:17
This is why anything regarding politics is generaly a waste of time on the internet. Both sides are so full of hate and derision that they don't even try to actually discuss anything, it just degenerates into name-calling and mockery. true Party loyalty is such a stupid concept. True. There are maniacs on both sides. The sad thing is that some loyal people tolerate or rationalize the bad behavior of these guys/gals. On a related note, the extrimest nuts on either side seem call more attention to themselves than the nice, normal ones, providing plenty of "proof" to to the other side that only crazy or stupid people could possible support such a party. _____________________
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