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Francis Chung

This sentence no verb.

Join date: 22 Sep 2003

Posts: 918

08-30-2005 23:53

Tooled around a little bit with the new HUD functionctionality on the preview grid that we've wanted for so long

Maybe this will be a "sneak preview" of things to come if I ever come back to the main grid

The scripting channel was alight with talk of the new features. Personally, I'm curious who's going to be the first person to write HUD-pong

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Francis Chung

This sentence no verb.

Join date: 22 Sep 2003

Posts: 918

08-30-2005 23:54

More HUD fun...

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Jillian Callahan

Rotary-winged Neko Girl

Join date: 24 Jun 2004

Posts: 3,766

08-30-2005 23:57

Holy #*$& you work fast - and those are gorgeous!

*cotinues to PS her new aircraft HUD graphics*

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Hiro Pendragon

bye bye f0rums!

Join date: 22 Jan 2004

Posts: 5,905

08-31-2005 00:02

This feature has a lot of potential once object-2-object communication and HTML on a prim are released.

For casual observers, it should be pointed out that Francis' text is a picture, not actual font.

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blaze Spinnaker

1/2 Serious

Join date: 12 Aug 2004

Posts: 5,898

08-31-2005 00:20

Yeah, it's probably all smoke and mirrors.

However, it IS doable.

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"User-created content takes the idea of leveraging player opinions a step further by allowing them to effectively prototype new ideas and features. Developers can then measure which new concepts most improve the products and incorporate them into the game in future patches."

Burke Prefect

Cafe Owner, Superhero

Join date: 29 Oct 2004

Posts: 2,785

08-31-2005 01:02

I'll play with it when I wake up and if the sim will stay up.
Not sure what I'd really do with it yet beside make my altimeters and such HUD components.
If LL would just ADD a z xoord to the mini-map (radar? WTF?) I'd probably dump that all together.

I'm sure people more talented than me will come up with ingenious uses.

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Jsecure Hanks

Capitalist

Join date: 9 Dec 2003

Posts: 1,451

08-31-2005 02:26

Cool new things like this give me a reason to keep coming back to SL again and again

Satchmo Prototype

eSheep

Join date: 26 Aug 2004

Posts: 1,323

08-31-2005 05:56

THAT TOTALLY ROCKS.... the gaming era is coming...

I now see the importance of HTML on a prim.

Surina Skallagrimson

Queen of Amazon Nations

Join date: 19 Jun 2003

Posts: 941

08-31-2005 06:14

Does this mean we can have our business websites on a prim in the HUD linked to an emergency button for when the boss walks in unexpectedly at the office?

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Jesrad Seraph

Nonsense

Join date: 11 Dec 2004

Posts: 1,463

08-31-2005 06:34

Definitely a brilliant addition to SL

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Ingrid Ingersoll

Archived

Join date: 10 Aug 2004

Posts: 4,601

08-31-2005 06:36

Marcos is so cocky. Even when he's looking down the barrel of a gun.

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Jarod Godel

Utilitarian

Join date: 6 Nov 2003

Posts: 729

08-31-2005 07:28

Ooooh! Second Life now has widgets!

PLEASEPLEASEPLEASEPLEASEPLEASEPLEASEPLEASEPLEASEPLEASEPLEASEPLEASEPLEASEPLEASEPLEASEPLEASEPLEASEPLEASEPLEASEPLEASEPLEASEPLEASEPLEASEPLEASEPLEASEPLEASEPLEASEPLEASEPLEASEPLEASE, give us XML-RPC capabilities soon!

The only thing better than widgets are net-enabled widgets.

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Cienna Rand

Inside Joke

Join date: 20 Sep 2003

Posts: 489

08-31-2005 08:31

I hope this doesn't become an excuse to not give us a real customizable UI.

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Merwan Marker

Booring...

Join date: 28 Jan 2004

Posts: 4,706

08-31-2005 08:46

From: Surina Skallagrimson

Does this mean we can have our business websites on a prim in the HUD linked to an emergency button for when the boss walks in unexpectedly at the office?

Exactly!

Another reason why I'd love for LL to allow us to choose to have RL user accounts....

Real Life SL Accounts

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Huns Valen

Don't PM me here.

Join date: 3 May 2003

Posts: 2,749

08-31-2005 11:37

Two of my jets are totally getting this. The fact that the end user can move them around, and that there are eight HUD attachment points, is going to be a Good Thing.

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Forseti Svarog

ESC

Join date: 2 Nov 2004

Posts: 1,730

08-31-2005 12:02

From: Ingrid Ingersoll

Marcos is so cocky. Even when he's looking down the barrel of a gun.

yeah, we need to come up with shiny piercing bullets!

francis... get yer ass back IN GAME!

Marcos Fonzarelli

You are not Marcos

Join date: 26 Feb 2004

Posts: 748

08-31-2005 12:17

From: Forseti Svarog

yeah, we need to come up with shiny piercing bullets!

Yes, the new icky pastel-y shiny is fortunately just as bulletproof as before.

Cubey Terra

Aircraft Builder

Join date: 6 Sep 2003

Posts: 1,725

08-31-2005 13:37

From: Huns Valen

Two of my jets are totally getting this. The fact that the end user can move them around, and that there are eight HUD attachment points, is going to be a Good Thing.

Oh yeah? Well... THREE of mine are getting this. So there.

Looking forward to working with this, even though I don't really understand what exactly it is yet.

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Torley Linden

Enlightenment!

Join date: 15 Sep 2004

Posts: 16,530

08-31-2005 13:40

does this mean u r back Fran

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Icon Serpentine

punk in drublic

Join date: 13 Nov 2003

Posts: 858

08-31-2005 21:20

From: Cienna Rand

I hope this doesn't become an excuse to not give us a real customizable UI.

/me nods.

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Alan Beckett

Space Pirate o_O

Join date: 14 Jun 2004

Posts: 11

08-31-2005 22:17

Just shows exactly what I expected to see with the new HUD attachment points, and unless I miss my guess, we can do a whole lot more than the obvious (though attractive) applications we see here.

I'm waiting for someone to roll out a new set (or an update to an older set) of mech AVs with full HUDs, for instance. Configurable development tools like texture library organizers, script librarys, full graphical calculators, etc.

In terms of games though, you can bet your ass I'm drooling at the applications of this new technology. The ability to add true HUDs to our games is going to add a whole new level of immersion that SL's game developers had previously only been able to implement akwardly at best. For my upcoming game projects I can't even begin to stress how invaluable this new functionality will be.

Enabran Templar

Capitalist Pig

Join date: 26 Aug 2004

Posts: 4,506

08-31-2005 22:24

Indeed, Alan, I have been scheming to come up with HUD solutions for my robots. The real sticking point at the moment is coming up with a usable protocol for the chat commands that prevents cross talk with different units. Gonna take a little personal growth in terms of my scripting abilities.

Definitely excited about what this means for my product line, though.

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From: Hiro Pendragon

Furthermore, as Second Life goes to the Metaverse, and this becomes an open platform, Linden Lab risks lawsuit in court and [attachment culling] will, I repeat WILL be reverse in court.

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Issarlk Chatnoir

Cross L. apologist.

Join date: 3 Oct 2004

Posts: 424

09-01-2005 09:38

I'm looking forward to developping lots of silly things with this HUD. The possibilities are very very big.

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Hank Hoodoo

Middle Management

Join date: 25 Dec 2004

Posts: 65

09-01-2005 10:00

The HUD is cool, but I think what Second Life really needs is CHUDs.

Leeshu Impfondo

Registered User

Join date: 24 Aug 2005

Posts: 2

09-01-2005 10:34

The HUD is mostly useless until it supports llSettext...

Francis chung's visions are not propable in secondlife because of the streamed environment. The only practical way to create what she has done artisically there would be to use TEXTURES... and those have to rez in.

But again... with no llSettext support for even basic HUD functionality, the HUD attachment points are just extra places for people to put their animation overrides and dance bracelet scripts...

HUD Fun in 1.7 Preview
Francis Chung This sentence no verb. Join date: 22 Sep 2003 Posts: 918	08-30-2005 23:53 Tooled around a little bit with the new HUD functionctionality on the preview grid that we've wanted for so long Maybe this will be a "sneak preview" of things to come if I ever come back to the main grid The scripting channel was alight with talk of the new features. Personally, I'm curious who's going to be the first person to write HUD-pong _____________________ -- ~If you lived here, you would be home by now~
Francis Chung This sentence no verb. Join date: 22 Sep 2003 Posts: 918	08-30-2005 23:54 More HUD fun... _____________________ -- ~If you lived here, you would be home by now~
Jillian Callahan Rotary-winged Neko Girl Join date: 24 Jun 2004 Posts: 3,766	08-30-2005 23:57 Holy #$& you work fast - and those are gorgeous! cotinues to PS her new aircraft HUD graphics* _____________________
Hiro Pendragon bye bye f0rums! Join date: 22 Jan 2004 Posts: 5,905	08-31-2005 00:02 This feature has a lot of potential once object-2-object communication and HTML on a prim are released. For casual observers, it should be pointed out that Francis' text is a picture, not actual font. _____________________ Hiro Pendragon ------------------ http://www.involve3d.com - Involve - Metaverse / Emerging Media Studio Visit my SL blog: http://secondtense.blogspot.com
blaze Spinnaker 1/2 Serious Join date: 12 Aug 2004 Posts: 5,898	08-31-2005 00:20 Yeah, it's probably all smoke and mirrors. However, it IS doable. _____________________ Taken from The last paragraph on pg. 16 of Cory Ondrejka's paper "Changing Realities: User Creation, Communication, and Innovation in Digital Worlds : "User-created content takes the idea of leveraging player opinions a step further by allowing them to effectively prototype new ideas and features. Developers can then measure which new concepts most improve the products and incorporate them into the game in future patches."
Burke Prefect Cafe Owner, Superhero Join date: 29 Oct 2004 Posts: 2,785	08-31-2005 01:02 I'll play with it when I wake up and if the sim will stay up. Not sure what I'd really do with it yet beside make my altimeters and such HUD components. If LL would just ADD a z xoord to the mini-map (radar? WTF?) I'd probably dump that all together. I'm sure people more talented than me will come up with ingenious uses. _____________________ My Blog \| My Board \| My Cafe\| My Slex
Jsecure Hanks Capitalist Join date: 9 Dec 2003 Posts: 1,451	08-31-2005 02:26 Cool new things like this give me a reason to keep coming back to SL again and again
Satchmo Prototype eSheep Join date: 26 Aug 2004 Posts: 1,323	08-31-2005 05:56 THAT TOTALLY ROCKS.... the gaming era is coming... I now see the importance of HTML on a prim.
Surina Skallagrimson Queen of Amazon Nations Join date: 19 Jun 2003 Posts: 941	08-31-2005 06:14 Does this mean we can have our business websites on a prim in the HUD linked to an emergency button for when the boss walks in unexpectedly at the office? _____________________ -------------------------------------------------------- Surina Skallagrimson Queen of Amazon Nation Rizal Sports Mentor -------------------------------------------------------- Philip Linden: "we are not in the game business." Adam Savage: "I reject your reality and substitue my own."
Jesrad Seraph Nonsense Join date: 11 Dec 2004 Posts: 1,463	08-31-2005 06:34 Definitely a brilliant addition to SL _____________________ Either Man can enjoy universal freedom, or Man cannot. If it is possible then everyone can act freely if they don't stop anyone else from doing same. If it is not possible, then conflict will arise anyway so punch those that try to stop you. In conclusion the only strategy that wins in all cases is that of doing what you want against all adversity, as long as you respect that right in others.
Ingrid Ingersoll Archived Join date: 10 Aug 2004 Posts: 4,601	08-31-2005 06:36 Marcos is so cocky. Even when he's looking down the barrel of a gun. _____________________ http://www.ingrid.0catch.com/1.html
Jarod Godel Utilitarian Join date: 6 Nov 2003 Posts: 729	08-31-2005 07:28 Ooooh! Second Life now has widgets! PLEASEPLEASEPLEASEPLEASEPLEASEPLEASEPLEASEPLEASEPLEASEPLEASEPLEASEPLEASEPLEASEPLEASEPLEASEPLEASEPLEASEPLEASEPLEASEPLEASEPLEASEPLEASEPLEASEPLEASEPLEASEPLEASEPLEASEPLEASEPLEASE, give us XML-RPC capabilities soon! The only thing better than widgets are net-enabled widgets. _____________________ "All designers in SL need to be aware of the fact that there are now quite simple methods of complete texture theft in SL that are impossible to stop..." - Cristiano Midnight Ad aspera per intelligentem prohibitus.
Cienna Rand Inside Joke Join date: 20 Sep 2003 Posts: 489	08-31-2005 08:31 I hope this doesn't become an excuse to not give us a real customizable UI. _____________________ You can't spell have traffic without FIC. Primcrafters (Mocha 180,90) : Fine eyewear for all avatars SLOPCO (Barcola 180, 180) : Second Life Oil & Petroleum Company Landmarker : Social landmarking software Conversation : Coming soon!
Merwan Marker Booring... Join date: 28 Jan 2004 Posts: 4,706	08-31-2005 08:46 From: Surina Skallagrimson Does this mean we can have our business websites on a prim in the HUD linked to an emergency button for when the boss walks in unexpectedly at the office? Exactly! Another reason why I'd love for LL to allow us to choose to have RL user accounts.... Real Life SL Accounts _____________________ Don't Worry, Be Happy - Meher Baba
Huns Valen Don't PM me here. Join date: 3 May 2003 Posts: 2,749	08-31-2005 11:37 Two of my jets are totally getting this. The fact that the end user can move them around, and that there are eight HUD attachment points, is going to be a Good Thing. _____________________ [ huns? \|\| words \|\| 1TBS KREW \|\| VHI Aircraft \|\| Whitepaper on Aircraft Physics ] Make yourself and your objects immune to llPushObject().
Forseti Svarog ESC Join date: 2 Nov 2004 Posts: 1,730	08-31-2005 12:02 From: Ingrid Ingersoll Marcos is so cocky. Even when he's looking down the barrel of a gun. yeah, we need to come up with shiny piercing bullets! francis... get yer ass back IN GAME!
Marcos Fonzarelli You are not Marcos Join date: 26 Feb 2004 Posts: 748	08-31-2005 12:17 From: Forseti Svarog yeah, we need to come up with shiny piercing bullets! Yes, the new icky pastel-y shiny is fortunately just as bulletproof as before.
Cubey Terra Aircraft Builder Join date: 6 Sep 2003 Posts: 1,725	08-31-2005 13:37 From: Huns Valen Two of my jets are totally getting this. The fact that the end user can move them around, and that there are eight HUD attachment points, is going to be a Good Thing. Oh yeah? Well... THREE of mine are getting this. So there. Looking forward to working with this, even though I don't really understand what exactly it is yet. _____________________ C U B E Y · T E R R A planes · helicopters · blimps · balloons · skydiving · submarines Available at Abbotts Aerodrome and XstreetSL.com
Torley Linden Enlightenment! Join date: 15 Sep 2004 Posts: 16,530	08-31-2005 13:40 does this mean u r back Fran _____________________
Icon Serpentine punk in drublic Join date: 13 Nov 2003 Posts: 858	08-31-2005 21:20 From: Cienna Rand I hope this doesn't become an excuse to not give us a real customizable UI. /me nods. _____________________ If you are awesome!
Alan Beckett Space Pirate o_O Join date: 14 Jun 2004 Posts: 11	08-31-2005 22:17 Just shows exactly what I expected to see with the new HUD attachment points, and unless I miss my guess, we can do a whole lot more than the obvious (though attractive) applications we see here. I'm waiting for someone to roll out a new set (or an update to an older set) of mech AVs with full HUDs, for instance. Configurable development tools like texture library organizers, script librarys, full graphical calculators, etc. In terms of games though, you can bet your ass I'm drooling at the applications of this new technology. The ability to add true HUDs to our games is going to add a whole new level of immersion that SL's game developers had previously only been able to implement akwardly at best. For my upcoming game projects I can't even begin to stress how invaluable this new functionality will be.
Enabran Templar Capitalist Pig Join date: 26 Aug 2004 Posts: 4,506	08-31-2005 22:24 Indeed, Alan, I have been scheming to come up with HUD solutions for my robots. The real sticking point at the moment is coming up with a usable protocol for the chat commands that prevents cross talk with different units. Gonna take a little personal growth in terms of my scripting abilities. Definitely excited about what this means for my product line, though. _____________________ From: Hiro Pendragon Furthermore, as Second Life goes to the Metaverse, and this becomes an open platform, Linden Lab risks lawsuit in court and [attachment culling] will, I repeat WILL be reverse in court. Second Life Forums: Who needs Reason when you can use bold tags?
Issarlk Chatnoir Cross L. apologist. Join date: 3 Oct 2004 Posts: 424	09-01-2005 09:38 I'm looking forward to developping lots of silly things with this HUD. The possibilities are very very big. _____________________ Vincit omnia Chaos From: Flugelhorn McHenry Anyway, ignore me, just listen to the cow
Hank Hoodoo Middle Management Join date: 25 Dec 2004 Posts: 65	09-01-2005 10:00 The HUD is cool, but I think what Second Life really needs is CHUDs.
Leeshu Impfondo Registered User Join date: 24 Aug 2005 Posts: 2	09-01-2005 10:34 The HUD is mostly useless until it supports llSettext... Francis chung's visions are not propable in secondlife because of the streamed environment. The only practical way to create what she has done artisically there would be to use TEXTURES... and those have to rez in. But again... with no llSettext support for even basic HUD functionality, the HUD attachment points are just extra places for people to put their animation overrides and dance bracelet scripts...

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