Griefer Motivations

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maybe more a degree of personality type... and some people have more or less... and some people learn to inhibit more or less.

I have it's great fun. Ants can be ignorant too.

Actually, many of them aren't minors of any sort. Immature, yes, but actual age, no. I've known 90 year olds that can't act mature.

Actually, I like being griefed on MMORPGS (I don't count SL as one, sorry.. that's like comparing a universe to a box... and the box WILL lose,) or at least the ones that allow "PKing" because there is nothing funnier than having an idiot taking a swipe at a higher level character or stealing their kills and then finding themselves dead from it, specially after being asked nicely to stop. That one always cracks me up!

But in SL, it's actually a much worse issue, because we can't just "KILL" the other person, and banning them is like trying to put water into a bucket full of holes. What we need is something that allows landowners to ban them from the IP point of view, even if the owner doesn't know the IP. I mean, it's sooo easy to just make alts, so IP banning will at least help slow 'em down a bit. Type the name, and you ban all the alts too.

Many griefers have what is called personality disorders. In other words they are totally involved in their own self satisfaction without regard to others. There is no cure for this condition.

Go to the welcome area to see some in action. This is a great place to study them.

:\ Not really very funny. Or factual.

But I'll agree that a lot of griefers do have some pretty deep-seated issues.

It wasn't meant to be funny but it was meant to be factual.

And to think my Significant Other just said this as I was reading parts of the paper to 'em. But it is true. There are some that are just a bit psychotic and it plays out in RL too. They don't CARE about anyone but themselves and their own satisfaction. Now this is actually a slim majority, not all of them. I've spoken with several.. and walked away with chills.

I don't want to be a pest, and I don't want to hijack the thread, but I just really dislike it when people say that any person with a personality disorder is a raging hedonistic asshole with no regard for anyone but themselves.. I, personally, have both Obsessive-Compulsive Disorder and Obsessive-Compulsive Personality Disorder (Yes, they're different!), and I'm no harm to anyone but myself.

I think what you're looking for is Antisocial Personality Disorder or Sadistic Personality Disorder, specifically.

Antisocial Personality Disorder is assumed from evidence of three or more of the following:



Sadistic Personality Disorder is assumed from evidence of four or more of the following:



Now, maybe I'm just weird, but compared to that, indications of OCPD, such as "shows perfectionism that interferes with task completion (e.g., is unable to complete a project because his or her own overly strict standards are not met)" and "adopts a miserly spending style toward both self and others; money is viewed as something to be hoarded for future catastrophes" don't exactly strike fear into my heart.

Anyway. I'm not condescending you, I just wanted to clarify a little.

(Oh, and it -is- possible to "cure" personality disorders, but it's very tricky and there's always the chance of a relapse. To quote the Encyclopedia Britannica, "A personality disorder is a deeply ingrained, long-enduring, maladaptive, and inflexible pattern of thinking, feeling, and behaving that either significantly impairs an individual's social or occupational functioning or causes him subjective distress. Personality disorders are not illnesses but rather are pronounced accentuations or variations of personality in one or more of its traits." -- That is, it's not a chemical thing, it's just REALLY REALLY REALLY tenacious habits and traits that are SO unrestricted and persistent as to be detrimental. )

On the flip side, there are a lot of griefers with no personality disorders at all! They're just assholes!

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logical fallacy...

just because someone says griefers are people who predominantly have persoanlity disorders does not mean that they are saying people who have personality disorders are griefers...

they know full well theres plenty who don't..

its like sayin all dogs are animals.. that doesn mean that all animals are dogs

it just means theres a certain small subset of them that quite possibly are

The original quote was:



That's what I was referring to. Maybe I'm just reading too far into syntax, but to use "In other words" there, it sounds like Susie was saying:



Even if she wasn't saying that, it sort of sounded like it, and I just wanted to make the point more clear so that other people wouldn't -think- that's what was being said.

Anyway, sorry about making a big deal about it, I just get a little touchy about that subject and I'm really anal about precision (And those things are related!).

Please don't be offended by my statement. I am referring to griefers and not people with personality disorders.

I dont know Stinky, each of the three times I have seen you in world, you were:

a) rude for no reason
b) wrecked my build (hopefully unintentionaly)

or

c) both of the above.

A happy-go-lucky soul who is just out for enjoyment is that last thing I would have taken you for.
I would have reached for words like ... dour, or maybe ... morose.



That being said, I do find some of the greifing stuff pretty funny as well, and have shed most of the incredibly thin skin I had when I arrived.

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Nikolaii makes a good point, but let's be clear here: from personal experience I can assure you that *some* (not all) of online griefers are, indeed, suffering from APD or worse. And Sociopaths suffer from a more highly intense form of APD. APDs may be a danger to themselves, mainly, but sociopaths are a danger to everyone.

Some of them are classical Sociopaths and our prisons are full of them. Their recidivism rate is extremely high -- ergo, if there is a cure, it's not a very consistent one. In most cases these criminals die uncured.

List of Antisocial Personality Disorder Traits

Sense of entitlement; Unremorseful; Apathetic to others; Unconscionable behavior; Blameful of others; Manipulative and conning; Affectively cold; Disparate understanding; Socially irresponsible; Disregardful of obligations; Nonconforming to norms; Irresponsible

Aah, I was a little offended at first, but I'm better now that I've gotten a chance to explain a little.



Thank you for bringing up Sociopaths and whatnot! I honestly don't know much about some of the more outwardly-destructive mental disorders. At this point, I've only done extensive research into Personality Disorders and a handful of other things that affect me directly.

Eventually I'm going to have to get my learn on, but I don't understand violence or sadism at all, so I've been avoiding reading more about such things. :\