I want to marry my sister, but the government says it's illegal!
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Champie Jack
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08-04-2005 06:41
I want to marry my sister, but the government says it's illegal!
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08-04-2005 06:47
Why? Society frowns on babies with their appendages growing from the wrong places, especially when people knowingly create the conditions that cause them. You haven't by chance watched Deliverance lately, have you? _____________________
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08-04-2005 06:50
I didnt say anything about babies..I just want to marry her
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08-04-2005 06:52
Should I appeal one of the US Circuit Courts to make banning of incestuous marriage Unconstitutional?
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08-04-2005 07:06
Should I appeal one of the US Circuit Courts to make banning of incestuous marriage Unconstitutional? You might want to sort out your rhetorical stance, first. "Incestuous" is a highly loaded word. It is just jam-packed with negative connotation. How about: "family-friendly marital union," or "pro-relative legal bond," or even "chromosomally-based sexual attraction"? Choosing the most appropriate rhetorical approach to your argument won't help you in court, but it sure will help with the press. _____________________
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08-04-2005 07:12
You might want to sort out your rhetorical stance, first. "Incestuous" is a highly loaded word. It is just jam-packed with negative connotation. How about: "family-friendly marital union," or "pro-relative legal bond," or even "chromosomally-based sexual attraction"? Choosing the most appropriate rhetorical approach to your argument won't help you in court, but it sure will help with the press. Excellent Spin! Do you work of Karl? (Just kidding.. about the Karl thingie) . _____________________
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08-04-2005 07:15
You might want to sort out your rhetorical stance, first. "Incestuous" is a highly loaded word. It is just jam-packed with negative connotation. How about: "family-friendly marital union," or "pro-relative legal bond," or even "chromosomally-based sexual attraction"? Choosing the most appropriate rhetorical approach to your argument won't help you in court, but it sure will help with the press. The peeps of West Virginia salute you! ![]() ![]() ![]() *ducks* _____________________
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08-04-2005 07:15
Excellent Spin! Do you work of Karl? (Just kidding.. about the Karl thingie) . Wow! Thanks! I absolutely detest the man and all he stands for (Plame, Plame, Plame ![]() Do you think he is hiring? ![]() _____________________
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08-04-2005 07:37
Wow! Thanks! I absolutely detest the man and all he stands for (Plame, Plame, Plame ![]() Do you think he is hiring? ![]() What does he stand for? _____________________
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Champie Jack
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08-04-2005 07:42
Rose, I don't understand how you can get away with derogatory images that supposedly relate to characters that would support "family-friendly marital unions"
You demonstrate a phobia of incestuous relationships, and an arrogance that your world view is superior to that of others. Why? _____________________
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08-04-2005 07:43
Society frowns on babies with their appendages growing from the wrong places, especially when people knowingly create the conditions that cause them. The idea of kids being born with there arm coming out of there forehead and all is just plain stupid. Not know how the legend of disfigured babies coming from insestrial mating has come from but it’s not true. Truth is there are other problems. Taking a look at dogs you will see some of the problems like hipdisplasia. But if you want a human look at what the problems is, just look at the royalty. Some married siblings some just cousins. The Zars were really in to this. That is why many of the royalty had problems with hemophilia. Most of Europe you can marry direct cousins (Your Aunt/Unless child). Were in the US you can marry at kissing cousins (Your Parents Cousins child). We have a idea how bad it is. How dirty. Think about some ways Northern look down on Southern, You know you’re a redneck when your family tree does not branch. The other reason is the relations between family members was band in the bible. We should not be forced to live by biblical standards but we did. One Spouse, Polyamery is out. Inessential relations are out. Maybe for the best maybe not. _____________________
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08-04-2005 07:46
The idea of kids being born with there arm coming out of there forehead and all is just plain stupid. Not know how the legend of disfigured babies coming from insestrial mating has come from but it’s not true. Truth is there are other problems. Taking a look at dogs you will see some of the problems like hipdisplasia. But if you want a human look at what the problems is, just look at the royalty. Some married siblings some just cousins. The Zars were really in to this. That is why many of the royalty had problems with hemophilia. Most of Europe you can marry direct cousins (Your Aunt/Unless child). Were in the US you can marry at kissing cousins (Your Parents Cousins child). We have a idea how bad it is. How dirty. Think about some ways Northern look down on Southern, You know you’re a redneck when your family tree does not branch. The other reason is the relations between family members was band in the bible. We should not be forced to live by biblical standards but we did. One Spouse, Polyamery is out. Inessential relations are out. Maybe for the best maybe not. Will anyone dare to say that the illegality of incest marriage is UNCONSTITUTIONAL, and give good argument? _____________________
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08-04-2005 07:48
I wanna marry my brother... Thats illegal twice over!
'course, I would need to clone me a brother first... _____________________
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08-04-2005 07:49
I wanna marry my brother... Thats illegal twice over! 'course, I would need to clone me a brother first... lol, but do you think you should be allowed to marry your brother, if you had one? _____________________
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08-04-2005 07:56
Will anyone dare to say that the illegality of incest marriage is UNCONSTITUTIONAL, and give good argument? Well it was made illegal because of medical reasons. Do your research. There was a medical paper that came out about 6 months ago stating the odds of birth defects went up only .1% with sibling. They said that genetic defects went up 1%. Find the documents. Make a case that the reason, medical, was unjust and wrong. Then they will have only the bible to hold up to, and well that is just wrong and should not be done but has seen what happen to Same Sex Marriage. _____________________
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08-04-2005 08:01
Don't fret.. your sister wants to marry your brother.. so you're safe.
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Champie Jack
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08-04-2005 08:07
Well it was made illegal because of medical reasons. Do your research. There was a medical paper that came out about 6 months ago stating the odds of birth defects went up only .1% with sibling. They said that genetic defects went up 1%. Find the documents. Make a case that the reason, medical, was unjust and wrong. Then they will have only the bible to hold up to, and well that is just wrong and should not be done but has seen what happen to Same Sex Marriage. But marriage does not necessarily mean children will be born, right? Are you saying that the only purpose of marriage, and therefore the only justifiable reason to be married is to bear children. I don't think you mean to say that. So, the argument that healthy children cannot be born of such a relationship is not convincing enough. It appears that you would support a judicial ruling that would ALLOW incest marriage. Am I making a correct assumption? _____________________
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08-04-2005 08:09
Don't fret.. your sister wants to marry your brother.. so you're safe. i'm not fretting because I don't have a brother. Next, please. _____________________
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Chip Midnight
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08-04-2005 08:10
The idea of kids being born with there arm coming out of there forehead and all is just plain stupid. It's called "humor" and yes, it is often stupid ![]() _____________________
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08-04-2005 08:12
But marriage does not necessarily mean children will be born, right? Are you saying that the only purpose of marriage, and therefore the only justifiable reason to be married is to bear children. I don't think you mean to say that. So, your argument that healthy children cannot be born of such a relationship is not convincing enough. By all means that is what I am saying. I am not saying that I believe that, but others do. One of the reasons the Anti Same Sex Marriage groups uses (if you push them for none biblical) is children. They state the reason for marriage is for children. So you have to fight that group. If the Child thing is taken from them then they only have biblical and that you can fight. The reason the law was enacted was because of Children. The fact you don’t want kids is not a problem for the law. If they let you then they would have to let every one, some of them would want kids and some would have them. _____________________
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08-04-2005 08:15
What does he (Rove) stand for? Well, for starters, how about this: In 1970, as a protege of Donald Segretti (later convicted as a Watergate conspirator), Rove snuck into the campaign office of Illinois Democrat Alan Dixon and stole some letterhead, which he used to print fake campaign rally fliers promising "free beer, free food, girls and a good time for nothing," and distributed them at rock concerts and homeless shelters. Rove admitted the incident years later, saying "I was nineteen and I got involved in a political prank." Wikipedia But your thread is not about that jolly jokester, Rove; it is about 'family-friendly marital unions' ![]() _____________________
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08-04-2005 08:17
By all means that is what I am saying. I am not saying that I believe that, but others do. One of the reasons the Anti Same Sex Marriage groups uses (if you push them for none biblical) is children. They state the reason for marriage is for children. So you have to fight that group. If the Child thing is taken from them then they only have biblical and that you can fight. The reason the law was enacted was because of Children. The fact you don’t want kids is not a problem for the law. If they let you then they would have to let every one, some of them would want kids and some would have them. So, I should be denied my right to have a sanctioned relationship with my sister because SOME people may take a medical risk and give birth to children who are more likely to have some sort of genetic disease? So, anyone who may give birth to children with possible genetic birth defects should not be allowed by law to have children? _____________________
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Chip Midnight
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08-04-2005 08:18
I thought you were kidding, Champie. I honestly have nothing against it. The thought makes me uncomfortable but intellectually I know that's only because the social stigma was taught to me by society, and for religious reasons (that I hold no stock in). There's really no good reason why any two consenting adults who wish to marry should be prevented.
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08-04-2005 08:19
In 1970, as a protege of Donald Segretti (later convicted as a Watergate conspirator), Rove snuck into the campaign office of Illinois Democrat Alan Dixon and stole some letterhead, which he used to print fake campaign rally fliers promising "free beer, free food, girls and a good time for nothing," and distributed them at rock concerts and homeless shelters. Rove admitted the incident years later, saying "I was nineteen and I got involved in a political prank." Wikipedia so, he stands for what? _____________________
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