How to get a better shape?

Actially the price range is like $100 for a no mod (on Pirate's cove) to somewhere in the $2000 areas (body by blake also no mod i think) with quite a variety mod and no mod in between

I dont see how you could possibly know where the shape seller got their numbers from tho - even though the warning makes sense - is no way for a consumer to figure that out by looking at the sign?

I sell shapes as well though I hadnt mentioned it before as I didnt want to get too involved. my shapes are more designed to be customized as I sell them copy and mod and with backups as well as a notecard with ideas on how to alter the shapes. (I sell 11 figure sizes petite to full figured for a total of $300)

Of course shape desingers dont know any more than any other player, weve just taken an effort to make something that hopefully people feel is apealing and market it. It takes practice and a little flair. I suppose anyone could do similair by putting the time and effort in. Of course the same could be said for clothes, or scripting, etc, etc.

I dont sell My personal shape as part of the package, Ive reserved that for me.

Trial and error are good ways to get a shape youd like - But some people Do have less practice / patience. So buying a shape isnt so bad.

My best advice on buying a shape though if you buy one thats no mod , make sure its exactly what you want - as you cant alter it later.

If you buy one no copy (theres some of those also) Make SURE to write the base numbers down, since you could easily end up wanting to repurchace =/.

So are you guys telling me that I can jump to the script section and find dozens upon dozens of amazing scripts that make amazing in game things happen and used to cost hundreds or thousands of L... and no one will post the slider settings for clean good looking avatars?

Just the perfect (if you will) face even? Come on... No one?

People's body shapes (if they made their own from scratch) are more personal to them than a script they whipped up in a few minutes... they are their representations in the world. Also, the "perfect" face would depend on who was looking at it, and who was going to use it as their own. It can look great to other folks, but if you hate it then you're not going to have fun with it portraying you. I like to recommend people to try to make their own since it is such a big part of your individuality.

There are tons of people who will give you tips or even come over to your place and walk you through making your own... maybe take it and tweak it a bit after if you're not happy with the small details

Someone asking for your shape *can* be a lot to ask that person. I've had a lot and I mean a lot of people ask me for my shape. The thing is if I do that and they buy a skin like mine, bam it's a copy of me walking around and no I'm not down with that. I don't like to see people look just alike everywhere in SL. The fact is we have enough customization that we shouldn't look alike. I have gladly given advice to people and I've tweaked avatar shapes as well for them.

One thing I've had people do is come to me with a terribly proportioned body and ask me to help but the next week I see them back in the same old body. If you like having your hips shortened to the point where your ass is a shelf, by ALL means keep it that way! Don't harrass people asking for help with your shape if you're just going to go back to your old one again and then whine. Sorry I know I went off on another route there lol. If there's any generic advice I can give it's to avoid extremes with the sliders. If you have no hips, no ass, and giant breasts with shoulders that could put the fear in any opposing football team, you *might* want to consider finding a happy medium lol.

Keep in mind this is only if you're *not* happy with your avatar, if you like your av that way then go for it! With faces it's a good idea to be bald when you're adjusting the sliders so you can see exactly what's happening with the head. Make sure to look at your side profile as well, I've had people think they look great from the front but from the side it looks like they were hit with a shovel. Just experiment, it's a great way to learn.

Oh and by the way, for the love of all humanity, if you're a guy and you want to look like you have to turn sideways to fit through a door, PLEASE proportion your head size to fit that body type lol. If I had a nickle for every giant muscleman avatar with a tiny head I've seen, I'd be rich lol.

I have a hard enough time just getting the facial lines on my avie as deep and pronounced as I feel comfortable with. I might have to do some skin work to get my definitive markings in place.

I have the damnable lines next to my nose too. I'll have to play around with the tips mentioned in this thread to see if I can get them to go away.

Interesting, I guess thats what I was amazed at and asking... I dunno, I guess if I hit a magical slider combo I may sit on it and try to profit as well, I just thought a few slider settings would have slipped through the cracks, somewhere, fascinating.

Its like the Davinci Code up in this piece.

I still say some of those scripts you quickly made so light of may have been rather deep and gut wrenching to concieve, and as I said, some were pulling major bucks so their worth and value were appearant in others eyes and therefore probably beyond being *whipped up in a few minutes*, and yet they were eventually shared. Someone with an opposing view may continue by saying that coding a script is far more time consuming and involved than perhaps getting lucky with some sliders. Again, just an opposing view.




I know all about *eye of the beholder* and *everyones an artist* etc, thats why I clearly put *if you will* in parens in my original post.

However, I still say a brief tour of the top selling skins in SL would give one a general idea of what I was getting at and what is considered *hot* or *popular* to the majority.

Hell, if we could even narrow it down to a hundred *perfect* faces between everyones supposed vast opinions, I cant believe we dont see anyones numbers for just one of them. Maybe I'll be the first to post the secret of the sliders... someday. Mwah ha ha ha....




it can be fun for awhile, until it turns into a grind when some of us just cant seem to dial in those sweet spots that should be more appearant. Perhaps I am not that savvy, but i do see quite a few aligned posts coming from my same POV. Hmmmm... this coupled with the fact that the juggernaut that is the skin/avatar market shows no signs of stopping in SL, would I guess paint a picture that maybe making your own avatar may not be all things to all people after all. Seems like some may want a (their) *perfect* skin as starting point, and then play with tweaking the body parts a hair, or modifying clothing or objects to express themselves from there. Sometimes a nice solid foundation is very comforting to people, or a even great launching pad for other areas of creativity, instead of being bogged down by not being able to achieve what is in their minds eye on the sliders.



All of these *tons of helpful people*, and not one single post, not a single fansite, tutorial, nada, zip, zilch with just a sampling of *exact slider settings*.

I'm just pointing it out as something that I am in awe of.