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Vudu Suavage
Feral Twisted Torus
Join date: 27 Jul 2004
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06-04-2005 22:55
I'm a waiter. I'm toward the high-status end of that low-status profession, but in any case, a waiter. Tonight, these two girls came in. When I carded them, they were actually a couple years older than me (which puts them in their 3rd decade rather than their 2nd), but I doubted enough to card them. Regardless of age, they were hawt, and they were all over each other--if I interupted them long enough for hands to part, one of them was stroking the other's leg.

They left a quite healthy tip, a glass-worth of Belgian beer in the bottle, and the most intelligently glowing comment card you could imagine. Why did they receive such great service? Because I had to do something with the arousal. It's hilarious to me--I was somewhat worried about offending them, either from avoiding them or paying too close attention, and in the end it was the most fabulous dining experience possible, even aside from the food (which is always intoxicatingly spectacular). If by some bizarre twist of chance one of you two is reading this(and I doubt the ladies in question could disentangle thier limbs long enough to use a computer to this extent), my only que4stion is, do you torment straight-ish men on purpose, or is it as involuntary as breathing? This was quite a night in many respects, and you made it special. Thank you, 2 lesbians.
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Lianne Marten
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06-05-2005 10:35
One time I was driving down the highway and all of a sudden I must have driven over something int he road, because I felt a tire blow out. I managed to get the car over to the side, and when I got out it was two tires, not just one. I only had one spare, and no cellphone (I hate those things) so I just sat and waited.

About five minutes later a car slows down and stops behind me. Two ladies get out of the car and ask if I need help. I just ask if they have a cellphone so I can call AAA, but they say that they can borrow their spare, and they'll follow me to a car repair place to make sure I get there ok. I was overwhelmed at how nice they were being to a complete stranger. I jack up the car and start to change the first one, and I notice that they are standing off to the side watching me, all over each other! After I finish, I go to change the other tire, and the same thing happens. I'm getting kinda creeped out since i'm not gay, but it was kind of flattering too.

After I finish with both I tell them that i'm ready to go, and they can follow me to the car repair place so they can get their spare back when it's done. When we get there I hand the car over to the mechanics and they start taking the tires off to replace, and also finding 15 other things wrong with my car to fic and bill me for. While we're waiting the ladies are still all over each other, but they are dropping hints to me as well. I tell them that i'm flattered, but i'm not gay. They look dissapointed, but they looked like they were having a good time with each other, so it must not have been too bad.

When my car is all fixed up, I thank the ladies for all their help. Without it, I would still have been out on the middle of the highway. They say it was nothing, and give me their celphone number in case I change my mind.

Well, if you're reading this, 2 lesbians... you know I haven't changed my mind yet, but I just wanted to thank you again for all your help. Thank you, 2 lesbians.
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Ardith Mifflin
Mecha Fiend
Join date: 5 Jun 2004
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06-05-2005 10:39
Perhaps these are the same two lesbians, who drive around the country aiding women in distress and arousing bored waiters while waging war against al Qaeda... each week, their sexual antics and escapades bring them to a new part of the country, with a new person to save or a new plot to foil. Think 24 meets Pretender meets softcore porn.

(Keep an eye out: I'm pitching the series idea to Fox next week.)
Lianne Marten
Cheese Baron
Join date: 6 May 2004
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06-05-2005 10:44
That's exactly what I was thinking, Ardith :D

I'm sure most of the male population would watch it too, judging from Vudu's story :)
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katykiwi Moonflower
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06-05-2005 10:44
From: Vudu Suavage
Thank you, 2 lesbians.
WHy did it make a difference that they were lesbians? Would you have gotten aroused watching a heterosexual couple or homosexual males? What is with this male obsession with lesbians....you know, they dont exist just to entertain men.
Ardith Mifflin
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06-05-2005 10:55
From: katykiwi Moonflower
WHy did it make a difference that they were lesbians? Would you have gotten aroused watching a heterosexual couple or homosexual males? What is with this male obsession with lesbians....you know, they dont exist just to entertain men.


Are you sure? Our Lord Jesus didn't put them here to procreate, so surely they must be here to titillate.

</sarcasm>
Lianne Marten
Cheese Baron
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06-05-2005 10:55
I've asked that question multiple times katy, with the added proviso that they also are not interested in having sex with said men. The only answer i've ever gotten is "But... it's two women!"

In short, I have no idea... but it seems that these two he's describing knew all that and just wanted to get a rise out of their waiter (so to speak.) That's why they gave the good tip and all, to make up for messing with his head :)
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Foolish Frost
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06-05-2005 11:03
I can aswer that from a psychalogical perspecive as long as you understand it's a bit of a generalization, and does NOT include everyone.


Generally, men are Stimulis driven: Scent, vision, touch.

Women are Emotionally driven: Caring, attention, and communication.

While these two drives are present in both sexes to a large degree, on average, they are weighted in the above fashion.

What does that mean?

That when two lesbians interact, a man sees all of the stimulation he needs to become interested, and a woman sees them paying attention to each other. Very few have poor reactions to that.

When two gay males interact, a man sees nothing of real interest or stimulation, and a woman sees compitition for attention. (Argue all you like, these opinions come from a large selection of gay friends I've had at one time or another, and other straight friends too when we get into the discussion...)

Also, the differance between male and female make one kind of sex much more invasive on average, and thereby more aggressive in most people's opinion.


Keep in mind, these are sweeping generalizations, and should never be said to account for everyone, just a large number of people. It also does not include all the reasons for the disparity between the sexes and how they view such things.
Ardith Mifflin
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06-05-2005 11:07
From: Foolish Frost
I can aswer that from a psychalogical perspecive as long as you understand it's a bit of a generalization, and does NOT include everyone.


Generally, men are Stimulis driven: Scent, vision, touch.

Women are Emotionally driven: Caring, attention, and communication.

While these two drives are present in both sexes to a large degree, on average, they are weighted in the above fashion.

What does that mean?

That when two lesbians interact, a man sees all of the stimulation he needs to become interested, and a woman sees them paying attention to each other. Very few have poor reactions to that.

When two gay males interact, a man sees nothing of real interest or stimulation, and a woman sees compitition for attention. (Argue all you like, these opinions come from a large selection of gay friends I've had at one time or another, and other straight friends too when we get into the discussion...)

Also, the differance between male and female make one kind of sex much more invasive on average, and thereby more aggressive in most people's opinion.


Keep in mind, these are sweeping generalizations, and should never be said to account for everyone, just a large number of people. It also does not include all the reasons for the disparity between the sexes and how they view such things.


That's actually a very interesting theory, and may help to explain a great deal.
Chance Abattoir
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06-05-2005 11:18
From: katykiwi Moonflower
WHy did it make a difference that they were lesbians? Would you have gotten aroused watching a heterosexual couple or homosexual males? What is with this male obsession with lesbians....you know, they dont exist just to entertain men.


Well, duh. It isn't that complicated. Men like women. The more the merrier. If two girls are going at it, then in his fantasy dream world he is hoping there is a chance that he could join in. ;)
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Zephria Zapata
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Join date: 7 Apr 2004
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06-05-2005 12:10
all i can say is to each there own ... :rolleyes: one on one is me personally .... i totally agree foolish ... some stuff is not worth analizing .... its eighter stupid or silly or plain sick ... life is too short ...lol

just leave me out of it and things are cool
Vudu Suavage
Feral Twisted Torus
Join date: 27 Jul 2004
Posts: 402
06-05-2005 18:05
From: Ardith Mifflin
Perhaps these are the same two lesbians, who drive around the country aiding women in distress and arousing bored waiters while waging war against al Qaeda... each week, their sexual antics and escapades bring them to a new part of the country, with a new person to save or a new plot to foil. Think 24 meets Pretender meets softcore porn.


Or Alias meets 3's Company. I get royalties :D

From: katykiwi
WHy did it make a difference that they were lesbians? Would you have gotten aroused watching a heterosexual couple or homosexual males? What is with this male obsession with lesbians....you know, they dont exist just to entertain men.


Why does it matter to you that they were lesbians? What is it with this female obsession with this male obsession with lesbians? You know, men don't exist just to make you feel sexually adequate ;)

Truthfully, tho, this wasn't the first lesbian couple I'd waited on that day--due to my location and vocation, I encounter many more than the statistical average. And in the past I have been attracted/aroused by various individuals and combinations of both sexes, most often females. A strong arousal response of the sort I had is relatively rare in itself, and I was amused at how the situation played out, that's all.

From: Foolish Frost

I can aswer that from a psychalogical perspecive as long as you understand it's a bit of a generalization, and does NOT include everyone.


To add to the theorizing, I think that the dynamic between two women is often different than in straight couples--more open, trusting, and playful on both sides, rather than the tug-of-war of a male/female polar relationship. Faced with two women interacting sensually, a man sees not only mo' bootay, but a sexual receptiveness that triggers an instinctive response, even if they're not receptive toward us specifically.
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Billy Grace
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06-05-2005 22:31
One question... Did they ask if that banana in your pocket was for desert or if you were just happy to see them? hehe :o

As for Kat's question... it's really very simple. Heterosexual males are attracted to women. Every guy ever born that is not homosexual at one time or another dreamed of having 2 or more women at then same time... Don't lie guys... you KNOW it's true.


The fact that they were Lesbian is of little consequence because said guy will ALWAYS guess that they are at least Bi, therefore giving him at least a chance... no matter how small. Even if said guy figured they were Lesbian all the way, said guy would somehow think that maybe on a whim they would make an exception... lol... no matter how small the chance they would do it or how small the chance that said guy would be the guy they would pick to play with.

Besides all of that... Lesbians are HAWT!!! *grins sheepishly*

Oh... no interest in Homosexual men because... well... they are men and said guy isn't attracted to men.

A heterosexual couple probably wouldn’t do it either because again, another guy is involved sexually and said guy isn't attracted to men.

And the comment about Lesbians don’t exist just to entertain men… um… yeah… ok… nice one!!!! That's crazy talk I tell ya... crazy talk... hehe
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Juro Kothari
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06-05-2005 22:46
From: Billy Grace
...they are men and said guy isn't attracted to men.

Or, they are so uncomfortable with that aspect of thier sexuality, they would never try it. Just last night I was in the Mission having drinks with friends and we were talking about how women are far more open to exploring thier sexuality, including same-sex experiences. Men, both gay and straight, tend to be more narrow-minded and un-adventurous with thier sexuality compared to women.
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Billy Grace
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06-05-2005 22:58
Juro, I will agree that may be a possibility for some men but speaking for myself and most of the straight men I know being “uncomfortable with that aspect of thier sexuality” has nothing to do with it. The thought of rubbing up against some hairy guy just has no appeal to me and is in fact revolting. :eek:

Having said that I feel the need to clarify a little. I have no problem with what anyone else wants to do. It is really none of my business. ;)

I do agree with you that woman are far more open to exploring thier sexuality. Many men talk the talk but don’t walk the walk when it comes right down to it… lol. I figure the ones that talk the most are full of it… it’s the quiet ones that get all of the action… hehe. :eek:
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Colette Meiji
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06-06-2005 07:25
Men (in general) do seem to have an obsession with lesbian sex.

I think they dont really have an obsession with Lesbians.

Think they really want women who are, or who are willing to be Bi.

Since the other part of the fantasy is the women decide to let him join in.

At Tiger Lilly's (the lesbian club i help manage in SL) - our biggest problem at a typical party is some crude man stipping naked and dancing around showing off his talking genitalia.

Since "obviously" becuase lesbians never get any of the male sex organ, we will somehow be magically compelled to want it from "Mr. rude stud".

From statistics ive read its actually more common for men to experiment with sex with their own gender.

I think a large number of straight men wish it were the other way.

Just wanted to point that out ... for the guys who really want these three ways .. look for the women who are admittedly Bisexual.

Actual lesbians arent going to be interested.
Vudu Suavage
Feral Twisted Torus
Join date: 27 Jul 2004
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06-06-2005 08:13
One aspect of the 2 lesbians scenario we're overlooking is the code of masculinity--the fantasy not of being with lesbians, but being lesbian. While we are better off than our forebearers, men today remain bound to lesser or greater degrees by strict expectations based on their gender. Putting aside what our fathers taught us and playground taunting and all that, heterosexual women respond first to big apes, so if you want the attention of straight women, you have to stick to the monkey-show.

So you get a lot of guys running around who would rather drop the "typical man" schtick, at least sometimes, but crave female attention too much to do so. The 2 lesbians scenario is as much about identifying with the women as desiring them--it's a fantasy of being able to relax and be open, but still get the girl.

Not that we want to trade in our wangs--it's just fantasy, after all :D
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Ananda Sandgrain
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06-06-2005 08:30
Let's not forget the basic anatomy of obsession - you look, you want something, but you can't have it! That's all it really takes for someone to become obsessed. It doesn't matter if it's lesbians, or chocolate chocolate chip ice cream.
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Lianne Marten
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06-06-2005 09:29
From: Ananda Sandgrain
Let's not forget the basic anatomy of obsession - you look, you want something, but you can't have it! That's all it really takes for someone to become obsessed. It doesn't matter if it's lesbians, or chocolate chocolate chip ice cream.


Or lesbians and chocolate chip ice cream? :D
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Colette Meiji
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06-06-2005 09:31
From: Lianne Marten
Or lesbians and chocolate chip ice cream? :D



My first time online with a woman involved ice cream hehe ^^ , and a spill
Ananda Sandgrain
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06-06-2005 09:41
Spooning and spooning... mmmmmmm
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Vudu Suavage
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06-06-2005 10:28
From: Lianne Marten
Or lesbians and chocolate chip ice cream? :D


summerlicious :P C>
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Arcadia Codesmith
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06-06-2005 10:42
From: Vudu Suavage
Putting aside what our fathers taught us and playground taunting and all that, heterosexual women respond first to big apes, so if you want the attention of straight women, you have to stick to the monkey-show.


Some women find geeks irresistable. Shy, adorable, big-brained geeks.

But as to the question at hand, yes, sometimes it's intentional. Even if a person (or two people) has no sexual orientation towards another, they will sometimes tease and flirt. It's a play behavior, and usually denotes a high degree of trust (especially among straight men, who tend to be less secure about that sort of thing). I don't know that unleashing it on a total stranger is necessarily the wisest course of action, but if everybody has fun, no harm done.

Even if it's not intentional, I think public displays of affection are sort of sweet, sexy and invigorating, regardless of the genders involved. We could do with a general increase in affection levels worldwide.
Euterpe Roo
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06-06-2005 10:56
From: Vudu Suavage
One aspect of the 2 lesbians scenario we're overlooking is the code of masculinity--the fantasy not of being with lesbians, but being lesbian


This statement takes courage, in light of what you have said in the rest of your post. Bravo, Vudu!

From: Arcadia Codesmith
Some women find geeks irresistable. Shy, adorable, big-brained geeks


Yes, we do. <purrrrrrrr> Am I the only one getting the sense that there are more flavors than vanilla and cholcolate when it comes to sexuality and gender identity? Mint chocolate chip, anyone?
Rhiannon Chatnoir
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06-10-2005 11:03
I third that notion...

give me a brainy, bit introverted one anyday.... ooo the possibilities...

that's it I am making a T-shirt about this!


OK.. back to work
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