Windows M.E. ??????????

Why Did LL leave out the support for windows M.E. i dont no why but i think it should run on that OS because graphics cards support windows M.E. because i have to pc's but my brother is on there all the time for his job so its more like a buisness pc and my other one have a graphics mother board and a graphics card but it has windows M.E. so who is here to support me with this thread.......

P.S. LL could u please amke a small update so people with windows M.E could play because yall will get more customers and people dont want to pay 100 US$ for another OS like windows XP so please do this for me and a whole bunch of other people

Win ME is an obsolete operating system. For SL to support Windows ME they would have to lose some features such as international keyboard support.

SL doesn't support Win 95 or Win 98 either, sorry.

yea but do you know of a way i could get windows xp or windows 200 for cheap or for free need help thanks alot if you give an answer

Windows ME is 5 years old, dude. Time to upgrade. Yeah I know lots of ways to get windows for free, but you shouldn't talk about that kind of stuff in these forums. It's against the rules, and it can get this thread deleted etc.

Depends on what you mean by "cheap". I've seen the full version of XP Home (oem) for around 100 bucks. They are legit copies with activation keys, but you won't find them at retail chains like Best Buy. If you can afford it, you may want to check out the smaller computer shops.

Windows 3.11 support plz~

To be specific, Unicode is why SL no longer works on Windows ME. That OS just doesn't support it, and we need it for international character sets. SL's feature requirements always stated Windows 2000 or XP. It happened to run on older versions in the past, but only because Unicode wasn't implemented yet.

I have been complaining to deaf ears on why SL will not run on my Apple ][

I believe LL is bowing down to pressure from Micro$oft and them fishy smellin' penguins.

To put it bluntly:

Windows M.E. sucked. It was a bad brainfart of an OS that should never have seen the light of day. It was the worst itteration of Windows when it was released.

Now it's a five-year-old bad brainfart of an OS.

Holy crap! It has been 5 years since it came out. Wow, time flies.

Yeah, buy it.

I've said it before and I'll say it again. No offense intended, but if someone can't afford $100 for a modern OS, they have no business spending $30-50 a month on broadband. If it's a choice of one or the other, the OS should win every time. It's infinitely more important. There are literally hundreds of thousands of things you can't do besides just SL if your OS is outdated.

Sorry if that sounds harsh, but the cold truth is computers require updates, and updates cost money. Just as you don't get a pet if you're not willing to spend the money to feed it and take it to the vet, you don't get a computer if you're not willing to spend the money to keep it up to date. If times are really that hard, shut off the broadband for 2 months, save the money, and then update that dinosaur.

Uh, like what? Browsing the web? Word processing? Not everyone uses their computer for the same things. It's true, they may not be able to use all the latest games or software, but just because it's new, it doesn't mean it will necessarily improve one's computing experience any. Upgrading is only necessary when you need to do something that you can't with your current software.

Do we really need to have this argument AGAIN, Catherine? You know very well "like what", not that any of it is really relevant here. If all someone wants to do is browse the web and write papers, then all they need is a PDA and a typewriter. Obviously the author of this thread wants to be able to run SL. SL requires a modern OS. Chances are also that the kind of person who'd be into SL would also be into things like Photoshop, Poser, possibly other games, and maybe even other 3D modelling packages. All of those things either directly require or benefit greatly from modern operating systems.


Yes, and your point is? Can't you see that's exactly why I said a mondern OS is a more justifiable expense than a broadband subscription? The fact is WHATEVER you use your computer for, the OS is what is universally going to make or break the experience.


Very astute observation. Guess what? Second Life IS the latest game and software.


Maybe not "necessarily" by the strictest definition of the word. I mean it's not a constant, unshakable law of the universe (as ME proved by coming out AFTER 9, but it's a pretty safe bet. It doesn't take much brain power to notice that newer computers run better and faster than older ones, and that newer operating systems are more stable, more feature rich, and just plain more useful than older ones (with ME as a notable exception, worst OS Microsoft ever made). As I said in our last discussion on this subject, I've got every PC OS from DOS 6 through Windows XP Pro (yes, even OS2 Warp) sitting on a shelf in my office. They all work just as well as the day they were written. The thing is today is not that day anymore.

Outhouses work just fine too. I'm not about to use one though. I happen to like my toilet a little better.


Hello... SL no can runny on bad old OS. You want play SL, you need shiny nice new OS.

Even Microsoft don't support that dog anymore, do they?

Yuppers - heres another trick.

You can get an OEM copy of Windows from places like Newegg online really cheap, PROVIDED you get them with hardware.

Now at Newegg they consider a new mouse to be hardware

When I got mine that way it cost me $50.

I don't know what the prices are now - but its worth looking into.

Siggy.\

What argument? Why are you jumping down my throat about this? Are you maybe confusing me with someone else?

So everyone who just surfs the web needs to upgrade to the latest version of their OS just to do that? If SL is the first program someone comes across that necessitates an upgrade, what on earth is the point of upgrading before that?

Wow, your eloquent and reasoned tone has totally convinced me. Er, except where did I ever say it would run on ME? SL needs 2000/XP to run. Where did I give the impression I believed otherwise?

Don't upgrade if you don't need to. (The original poster needs to.) What about that is such a horrible opinion?

Not to mention that exposing Windows ME to a broadband connection is an open invitation to being hacked and becoming part of the zombie armies.

Free download of modern OS:

http://www.slackware.com/

Yes, SL does run on it. Provided you don't care much about QuickTime support, but then again, I've not actually gotten around to trying QuickTime support. Hmm, maybe a project for tonight.

Also, I heartily concur that M.E. was the worst Windows EVER. I also concur that if you're bitching to LL about not supporting Win9x anymore, you're barking way up the wrong tree. Microsoft doesn't even support that shit anymore, I don't see how you can rationally expect anyone else too. Please join us in the 21st century.

I believed they stopped supporting it the moment they had XP up and running.. or about a year after it's release. ME was probably the most crash-happy OS that has ever come out of Micro$oft.. which is probably why I could run it without a single glitch, because that's just how my luck runs. (waits for the blame for all the login issues )

So, frankly, while I'd love to see support for 98, I know it won't happen, given that is what runs on my hubby's comp until I can get an actual copy of XP that doesn't have the words Emachine on it.

A quick search of Google...

Windows 2000 Pro, $39.95.

http://www.softtera.net/product_details.php?product=2036&cat=10

Windows ME is a travesty - get off of it, and you'll thank us forever! I'm with Chosen on this one... Windows ME was the biggest bunch of spaghetti code I've ever seen, you'll be getting dial up performance from it (in every case I've seen) even with broadband! I've had to personally de-crappify about 10 WinME installs for coworkers with old Gateways in the past year or so. Every single one borked to the point of total unusability.

Regards,

-Flip

Sorry, Catherine. You're right; I had you confused with someone else. In the last Windows ME discussion I had on the forums, someone posted almost the exact same comments you did. Her first name was also Catherine (I think) so I naturally assumed it was you, which I shouldn't have. I hope you will accept my apology.

For what it's worth, I'm pretty sure I know who I had you confused with, but I can't say for certain. Unfortunately the word "Windows" is too common for a search to be of any use, and 2-letter words don't get counted, so searching for "Windows ME" is just as useless. I can't look up exactly who the previous arguer was, but what I do remember is she was far less than polite as the discussion unfolded, which is why I reacted to your post as I did. Again, please accept my apology.


I already said if all someone wants to do is surf the web, then all they need is a PDA. Even a cell phone could do it. However, I think we can all agree, that that's not the best way to go about it.

Since you're asking about the point of upgrading besides just for SL, I'll answer:

1. Security. Windows 98 and ME are full of holes, especially ME.

2. Speed. As Flip said, ME is incredibly slow. XP is orders of magnitude faster.

3. Stability. ME is more than a bit unstable. It crashes all the time. XP hardly ever crashes. Individual applications can get themselves into trouble (as we all know so well from SL), but the OS itself usually remains perfectly fine. In ME, when one thing goes, usually everything goes.

4. Multi tasking. XP is infinitely better at running multiple applications at once than any previous Windows incarnation. Anyone out there who's at all like me, meaning they are always doing a hundred things at once, wouldn't be able to live with Windows ME at all. Every day I simultaneously have multiple Photoshop images open, SL open, and mutliple browser windows open at a minimum. Often I'll have Illustrator, Audition, Word, & Excell open as well. And that's just for starters. No way could that be done in ME. Now obviously not everyone needs to do all that, but I'm sure there are a great many people who would if they could, but never realized it was possible because they're still using an OS that can barely handle running its own kernel, let alone all the other applications.

That's just the first 4 that come to mind. I could go on all day, but I think you get the idea. The long & short of it is not keeping your machine up to date with a proper OS, the latest drivers, etc. Is like not sharpening a knife. Sure it will function, sort of, but it's gonna take longer, be more dangerous, and not be anywhere near as satisfying to use.


Again, I apologize for flying off the handle. I shouldn't have.

As far as the "impression" you're talking about, yo neve gave the impresssion you believed SL didn't need XP. You most certainly gave the impression though that you believe it SHOULDN'T need XP. My point is SL is an extremely sophisticated program, capable of doing a great many things that were considered impossible at the time ME was written. It's not unreasonable to expect a cutting edge piece of software to require a modern operating system.


It's not a "horrible" opinion, but it's not exactly sound advice either. Computer software always has problems, and one of the main purposes of upgrades is to solve those problems. Telling someone not to upgrade from the OS that has the most problems of any OS ever written is like telling them nto use an ice box instead of a regrigerator. Sure it kind of works, but it's not exactly what one should expect to have to put up with in this day and age. Anyone who follows that advice is condmening themselves to unnecessary time & labor, and to a lack of enjoyment that they may not even realize.

Ignore the link I gave earlier, BTW. In my haste at work, I think I gave you a less-than-reputable site. That being said, there are many legit sites that can be found on Google which sell cheap OEM versions (basically, you don't get a box or a manual with it - just the CD and the legal license key).

Regards,

-Flip

Because Windows ME is nearly as bad as windows 98 1st ed.

Worse.. much, much worse. It crashes more than anything.. Which is why my 3 year old son now has the computer that runs ME. I don't CARE if his comp crashes at least 3 times a day.