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…is there a talk radio show just for SL?

Zaid Vox
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05-03-2005 09:05
Ok…is there a talk radio show just for SL? I know of all the streaming radio for club music but any talk shows? I was a talk show host in the RL ( go to the old web site for the show at www.getradioactive.com ) And I think it would be cool to have a talk show for the avatars of SL. You could email in your show ideas and I would talk about it…or I could have a special phone number for 2lifers to call in as their SL avatars and record their questions or comments and play it over the radio…what do you think?
Tito Gomez
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05-03-2005 09:07
That'd be cool! Something more to keep me occupied at work ;)
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05-03-2005 09:13
Yes that is something I'm working on with a couple of people.

I will have an interview show as well as open formats for call-in ins - haven't yet decided what to name it. I'll be interviewing many, many of SL's citizens.

If you're interested - either for a show of your own, for an interview, please send me a PM here, IM in game, or e-mail to [email]Merwan.Marker@gmail.com[/email].

Thanks....

:cool:
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Aimee Weber
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05-03-2005 09:16
I love this idea. I enjoy Trinity Serpentine and Nala Galatea when they DJ because they inject a good supply of banter between songs, they react to IMs from their audience, and they can be really fun/funny to listen to.

If there are any budding Howard Sterns or Opie & Anthonys out there, this could be an untapped market.
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05-03-2005 09:51
Awwwww, thankie Aimers! We definitely love what we do and love playing with the audience. Nala is much naughtier than me when it comes to "playing" though. hehe

I'd most definitely love to tune into a TalkShow if there was one. Good idea.
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David Valentino
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05-03-2005 10:28
From: Merwan Marker
Yes that is something I'm working on with a couple of people.

I will have an interview show as well as open formats for call-in ins - haven't yet decided what to name it. I'll be interviewing many, many of SL's citizens.

If you're interested - either for a show of your own, for an interview, please send me a PM here, IM in game, or e-mail to [email]Merwan.Marker@gmail.com[/email].

Thanks....

:cool:



Sure..don't invite me.. :mad:

I've long wanted to do talk radio in SL. Can I cover all the sleaze?? Huh can I??
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05-03-2005 10:32
I think if someone did a 'mostly' live stream and put some comedy in it like the GTA radio stations/commercials, but in an SL flavor, it would rock.
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05-05-2005 13:32
I like this idea. I thought of doing something like this for awhile, but didn't because I'm too voice shy. :)

Keep us posted on the plans for it though!
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Prokofy Neva
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05-05-2005 16:40
There were dozens of these kinds of radios in TSO.

In fact, you can tune into some of the TSO radio stations like Mr. NoCal's show by putting that URL in your SL yard. It's hilarious to me that Mr. NoCal can broadcast not only to Alphaville on the TSO server but broadcast at least to me and a group of friends in SL -- and we can keep both games open or use YM and send him requests and he can have that tune reverberate across two worlds. It's cool.

In TSO, the radio stations were the heart of the game's power and corruption. And while the population here is more diffuse, it's smaller, and is poised to have the same thing happen.

Who rules the radio, controls the sales, the events, the green dots. They can set it up so they do free or paid spots for ads and events, and throw business only to their own circle of friends.

When I fought the Sim Shadow Government in The Sims Online, one of the things I discovered is that they had secret paid "auctions" of sorts for the DJ seats. Kids and mafia types going around with DJ Kidd on their titles or sim names were considered the hottest and kewlest. So they'd be ready to pay hundreds of thousands of simoleons for the privilege of getting a DJ seat and a show that would have tremendous influence. The DJ could make or break you. He could organize traffic to your lot as thousands of people on all the servers tuned into him on the Internet (in a kind of grey area of pirate broadcasting).

He could also use the tool to grief or slam, landing bunches of people on your lot to throw trash around under the guise of "reporting" on your lot or "having a party", or denouncing you on the radio to kill your business subtly or not-so-subtly. There is no FCC to control these kinds of pirate game radios.

The top lots (leader boards equivalent) were the people who had their own radio stations and used them like group spam lists are used in SL to their advantage to grab traffic and sales and influence over the public.

The radios culture in TSO was an example of one of those micro-closed/authoritarian societies that get started in the anarchic milieu and seem kewl and hot because they are all about the new tekkiwikinista type of thing, new music, new media, new stuff, but it actually has some very, very old qualities of closed networking that reinforces itself and becomes hugely sectarian and exclusive. Rivalries developed and you had to pick "your" radio often if you were in mafia wars that would "protect" you. People would get paid to put the radio spots on their profiles like "Listen to www.dumbtsoradio4idiots.com or else!"

When the FIC and its competitors harness radio in SL, they will be well on their way to really seriously taking over the grid.

Imagine having the dulcet modulated tones of an Aimee or Chip or a Lordfly in your ear as you fly around shopping...going to events....steering, advising, throwing, shunning....

It's my understanding that both Anshe and Blue have their own radio stations that they use for commercial and entertainment purposes. Not necessarily anything evil in this, just like FIC things aren't inherently evil. But once you take over a communication tool that can broadcast to the entire population, you have the power. Lenin understood this in reaching for the telegraph post. Nexcom understands this with their third-party server-run cellphones capable of capturing loads of information.

Information is power, and there are lots of closed groups with various mind-memes poised to take them over. We're protected somewhat by the fact that there will be so many different ones at first that they might cancel each other out.
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05-05-2005 16:44
Don't even bother responding, just report his post and move on.
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05-05-2005 18:43
Hiya!

I run RadioRadio, and I'd be more than willing to discuss this with you. Contact me in world if you like!

Neat idea.
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05-05-2005 19:14
From: Prokofy Neva
He could organize traffic to your lot as thousands of people on all the servers tuned into him on the Internet (in a kind of grey area of pirate broadcasting).

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There is no FCC to control these kinds of pirate game radios.


It's not even remotely a grey area. Internet broadcasting is 100% legal, so long as you refrain from broadcasting music without a license from ASCAP. The FCC has absolutely no jurisdiction over internet radio. Thank goodness for those of us who actually still believe in common sense and personal freedom.

There's nothing pirate about it.
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05-05-2005 19:50
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There's nothing pirate about it.


Well, people who ran this in TSO, including with inside help from Maxis/EA, at one point when I guess the company was exploring doing it themselves, said it was in a grey area. It's the music that's likely at issue.

The FCC doesn't govern it now, but there are certainly some political forces that would like to see them govern it.
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05-05-2005 20:19
From: Ardith Mifflin
There's nothing pirate about it.


Enjoy it while you can. Alot of streams are free from commercials, promotions and best of all.....regulations. Some streams have really turned up the hype lately, like Club997, The 80's Channel. Understandably, they need to pay dues to the RIAA and stream providers.

The CRTC (The Canadian equivilent of the FCC) has no jurisdiction over streams or signals directed from other countries. SOCAN has some clout here, but that only pertains to some music. Our regulations are basically carbon copies of each other. In fact, we have several recipoical agreements with regards to radio and television communications.

Radio in SL is a fun concept, hats off to the folks who pay monthly bandwidth, prepare the material and make time to entertain us.
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05-06-2005 05:50
From: Prokofy Neva
Well, people who ran this in TSO, including with inside help from Maxis/EA, at one point when I guess the company was exploring doing it themselves, said it was in a grey area. It's the music that's likely at issue.

The FCC doesn't govern it now, but there are certainly some political forces that would like to see them govern it.


Considering that the FCC is reportedly considering trying to enforce decency standards on Cable television, you've got a point. There are certain elements of the government (mostly elephantine puritans) who would like to see everything governed. Even Bradley Smith of the Federal Election Commission has proposed restricting political speech on the internet during elections, in order to comply with McCain-Feingold. Though McCain and Feingold have previously suggested that paid advertisements are their primary target, many fear that blogs may fall under the ax of the censors.
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05-06-2005 06:23
That is a great idea, we have out own station we use and have thought about it several times, but unfortunatley I just dont have the time do it myself... if you are looking for a station to do this on, please contact me :)
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05-06-2005 06:24
The problem here, as with most things on the internet, is that of juristiction. While the FCC may control the airwaves in the US, it has no say in what hapens in the UK, or France, or anywhere else.

This may seem like a pie in the sky idea, but what we need, (assuming we need anything at all) is an internet based organisation to assume control for regulation. SecondLife is constantly being pushed as "Internet: The Next Generation" so why not set up a body within SL?

Yes, there are problems with enforcement. An organisation would have to get full Linen support in order to block "offending" content, but as a starter the organisation could offer a form of license to show "approved" status.

If done properly there is no reason why the influence of such an organisation could not spread to the rest of the internet. After all, there is a huge hole in global internet regulation that could be filled by the first person that comes along and grabs the chance.
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05-06-2005 06:56
From: Surina Skallagrimson
The problem here, as with most things on the internet, is that of juristiction. While the FCC may control the airwaves in the US, it has no say in what hapens in the UK, or France, or anywhere else.

This may seem like a pie in the sky idea, but what we need, (assuming we need anything at all) is an internet based organisation to assume control for regulation. SecondLife is constantly being pushed as "Internet: The Next Generation" so why not set up a body within SL?

Yes, there are problems with enforcement. An organisation would have to get full Linen support in order to block "offending" content, but as a starter the organisation could offer a form of license to show "approved" status.

If done properly there is no reason why the influence of such an organisation could not spread to the rest of the internet. After all, there is a huge hole in global internet regulation that could be filled by the first person that comes along and grabs the chance.


Personally, I think it's a pie from hell idea. The "huge hole in global internet regulation" exists because the majority of people do not want a global regulatory body telling them what to do, nor do the nations in which those people live. Every country has its own unique laws, which are often contradictory when applied to the global community.

Besides which, it's unncessary. Why should we restrict free speech? The barrier to entry for setting up an internet radio station is almost non-existant. If you disagree with the content of a station, create your own. Let the audience decide which they would rather listen to. That's the beauty of the internet. It transcends national law. It is a great, open commons in which all men are equal and in which the freedom to speak and create is unabridged.

Unfortunately, it's a frontier and "civilization" must always tame the frontier...
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05-06-2005 07:12
From: Ardith Mifflin
Besides which, it's unncessary. Why should we restrict free speech? The barrier to entry for setting up an internet radio station is almost non-existant...


It all depends on your definition of "free speach" I guess. Are you defending the rights of people to set up internet radio and tv stations broadcasting kiddie porn for example? What about royalty rights of artists? Who pays the musicians if all their music is ripped and broadcast for "free"?

At the moment content is controled on a country by country basis, but you could can always find some backwater where you can broadcast from because it's either not illeagle or the 'orthorities' just don't care. Royalty rights are currently controlled by individual record companies, with Sony, WB, et al, being carefull about who they release material to. But it takes a lot of international co-operation by lots of governmental and industry bodies for things to get done.

A single, internet (SecondLife) based organisation, to which the record companies themselves signup, would cut a load of red tape and actually make things a lot easier for a lot of people...


**edit to say: my spelling sux**
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05-06-2005 07:19
From: Prokofy Neva

Imagine having the dulcet modulated tones of an Aimee or Chip or a Lordfly in your ear as you fly around shopping...going to events....steering, advising, throwing, shunning....


:eek: I never even thought of this. Awesome Idea!

Would you guys listen if I had a radio show? I guess it would pretty much be like my forum posts, only drunker and with better spelling.

Maybe Chip, LF, and I could partner up. Though it may sound odd as they both have voices like Barry White while I sound like a startled mouse.
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05-06-2005 07:20
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:eek: I never even thought of this. Awesome Idea!

Would you guys listen if I had a radio show? I guess it would pretty much be like my forum posts, only drunker and with better spelling.

Maybe Chip, LF, and I could partner up. Though it may sound odd as they both have voices like Barry White while I sound like a startled mouse.


I'll work the "fart" sound button.
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05-06-2005 07:25
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:eek: I never even thought of this. Awesome Idea!

Would you guys listen if I had a radio show? I guess it would pretty much be like my forum posts, only drunker and with better spelling.

Maybe Chip, LF, and I could partner up. Though it may sound odd as they both have voices like Barry White while I sound like a startled mouse.

Aimee see my sigline !! We are striving to be the SL FIC Voice !! :D
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05-06-2005 07:28
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A single, internet (SecondLife) based organisation, to which the record companies themselves signup, would cut a load of red tape and actually make things a lot easier for a lot of people...


A good organization would be one which negotiates the major obstacles which the RIAA and ASCAP had erected to prevent internet radio. A group which helps SL radio stations obtain the licensing agreements which are necessary for broadcasting mainstream music.

A bad organization would be one which censors broadcasts and which plays Phaethon by trying to get the RIAA to march to the beat of their drum. The RIAA has no desire to make it easier to broadcast as they're the ones who lobbied to make it more difficult.

Your dream of an SL-based group suddenly becoming the global arbiter of the internet is ultimately quixotic.
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05-06-2005 07:28
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I'll work the "fart" sound button.


You should also consider rapping.
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05-06-2005 07:43
From: David Valentino
Sure..don't invite me.. :mad:

I've long wanted to do talk radio in SL. Can I cover all the sleaze?? Huh can I??

You're in!

The man at eaze with the sleaze!

Velvety Voiced Valentino!

:)
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