Anyone know of a good site for Jesus pictures?
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Dianne Mechanique
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10-20-2005 16:40
From: Chip Midnight Have you ever seen Lord Raglan's Hero scale? In his book The Hero he defined a list of 22 archetypal life incidents shared by heros in folklore and then scored each of them for how many each had. The events include things like being born to a virgin, son of a god, killed by his own followers (usually on a hill), resurrected and ascended, and so on. All of them are actually pretty common. http://www.tam-lin.org/abby/raglan.html There's a pretty good documentary out on dvd called The God Who Wasn't There that makes the case that Jesus likely never existed. It 's a bit too Michael Moore for its own good, but it asks a lot of great questions. Worth tracking down. Ha!  I wasn't aware of that stuff, but it sure fits in with what I have read. I read a book about 8 years ago (can't quite remember the title and I am at work), that basically argues the same thing (that he did not even exist), but is perhaps a little lighter in tone. It merely argues that there is no evidence that the person known as Jesus ever existed. The most interesting fact I remember from the book is one I use in conversation a lot (to shock people), which is that the very earliest examples of writings about Jesus were written almost a hundred years after he supposedly died. I believe recent discoveries have pushed this back to 60 years or so, but the fact that by far the majority of what we know as the New Testament was not even written in the same century that Jesus (again supposedly), lived is something that a lot of people never think about. Imagine the distortions of history that would occur if no historical personage was ever written about until they had been dead a few hundred years. |
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Neehai Zapata
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10-20-2005 16:42
I scored a 2.  I guess that means no one cares about my loaves and fish recipe.
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Armath Severine
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10-20-2005 23:56
From: Euterpe Roo With you Eggy.
There was a fascinating article in Chronicle of Higher Education by R Marie Griffith, professor of religion at Princeton, entitled "The Gospel of Born-Again Bodies." Griffith examines the transformation of the image of Christ through history. The author, rightfully so, points out that the current American depiction of Christ is tremendously built, buff, blonde. meh.
God has never really liked fat people. Well, they did drink a lot of wine back then. Lots of empty calories. ^.^ But yeah, not white ... twas the middle-east and all. |
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Torley Linden
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10-21-2005 00:09
From: Armath Severine
But yeah, not white ... twas the middle-east and all.
I sometimes get the impression people generally either want to be look like their heroes, or vice-versa. After all... "What Would Jesus Do?" |
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Garnet Psaltery
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10-21-2005 00:25
Whatever colour Jesus actually was, it's not impossible for him to have been blond and blue-eyed. You have only to visit Syria to see that.
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Daz Honey
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10-21-2005 00:35
From: Eggy Lippmann Is anyone else freaked out at how often Jesus, a middle eastern person, is portrayed as an effeminate-looking "aryan" type. I mean, WTF, Jesus could not possibly have had a pale complexion, blue eyes or light brown hair. This shit should be illegal. yeah my favorite is the African Jesus, I once asked a friend who had the African Jesus pic (Jesus as if he was born Black instead of Middle Eastern) and she said Jesus is whomever you want him to be or something and she said it with a straight face. The White Jesus is particularly disturbing to me because of all the scum-bag racists who claim to be Christians. ugggh *shudders* pathetic nonscence but some people buy it...
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Eggy Lippmann
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10-21-2005 00:51
From: Garnet Psaltery Whatever colour Jesus actually was, it's not impossible for him to have been blond and blue-eyed. You have only to visit Syria to see that. I have no doubt that modern Syria has a heap of gorgeous, fair-skinned, blue-eyed blondes. It was after all, occupied by France from 1918-1946. But you have to realize that 2000 years ago traveling was not an option. There were no roads, no transportation, and population was sparse so you had to pack all your food and water and really plan ahead. This made ethnicity very strongly tied to location. Besides, people didn't spend much time indoors, they had to work very hard in order to survive, and since there wasn't much in the way of artificial lighting either, they had to take full advantage of sunlight while it lasted. |
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Malachi Petunia
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10-21-2005 01:09
I get confused sometimes.
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Torley Linden
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10-21-2005 01:11
^ That guy looks kinda like a cousin of Philip Linden!
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Garnet Psaltery
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10-21-2005 04:44
From: Eggy Lippmann I have no doubt that modern Syria has a heap of gorgeous, fair-skinned, blue-eyed blondes. It was after all, occupied by France from 1918-1946.
But you have to realize that 2000 years ago traveling was not an option. There were no roads, no transportation, and population was sparse so you had to pack all your food and water and really plan ahead. This made ethnicity very strongly tied to location. Besides, people didn't spend much time indoors, they had to work very hard in order to survive, and since there wasn't much in the way of artificial lighting either, they had to take full advantage of sunlight while it lasted. Interesting points but there were merchants, and travellers for all sorts of other reasons. I doubt they were all well-behaved. |
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Eggy Lippmann
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10-21-2005 06:40
Ok, I won't say it's 100% impossible for a historical Jesus to look different from your garden variety middle eastern person, but you have to agree that it would be rather unlikely  Besides, it is a well known fact that popular historical figures have their look adjusted to match the locals. Just google around and look at how many radically different pictures of Einstein you get... it's the same thing with Jesus. His look varies from place to place. |
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Eggy Lippmann
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10-22-2005 14:10
Now this is an interesting picture of Jesus   |
