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Lianne Marten
Cheese Baron
Join date: 6 May 2004
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11-08-2005 18:22
Isn't Satan a Christian creation?
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Pendari Lorentz
Senior Member
Join date: 5 Sep 2003
Posts: 4,372
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11-08-2005 18:57
Isn't Satan a Christian creation? Yes. But there are still those who actually worship Satan. As Satan was God's most beautiful and highest in charge Angel. It was only when Satan challenged God and thought the Angels should be treated as well or better than humans (which they are not) that Lucifer created an army against God to overthrow his power. God then cast Lucifer out of heaven and forbid Lucifer to ever return. Since then, Lucifer has been fighting for souls to keep them away from God and show them another way. So. Yes you must believe in the Christian God to believe in Lucifer.  _____________________
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Pendari Lorentz
Senior Member
Join date: 5 Sep 2003
Posts: 4,372
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11-08-2005 18:58
correct me if I am wrong, but the Satanic doctrine is not the worship of satan, but the discarding of religion and God in all forms That would be more like athiesm. Satan worship is much different. _____________________
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Mulch Ennui
15 Minutes are Over
Join date: 22 May 2005
Posts: 2,607
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11-08-2005 19:28
That would be more like athiesm. Satan worship is much different. not in my understanding of it, being informed by a practicing satanist Although named for Satan, a name associated with evil and temptation, Satanism is more commonly the name given to certain spiritual paths which emphasize the Left-Hand Path, as opposed to the much more common Right-Hand Path. Left-Handers believe in spiritual enrichment through their own work on themselves, and that ultimately they are answerable only to themselves, while Right-Handers believe in spiritual enrichment through the dissolution or submission of the self to (or into) something greater. Many Satanists do not in fact worship a deity called Satan, or necessarily any other deity, nor do they follow a principle of evil. This aspect of their beliefs is very commonly misunderstood. Instead of divine laws or naturistic principles (such as in wicca), Satanism generally focuses upon spiritual advancement of the self without requiring guidance from external higher beings or external principles, instead of submission to a deity or a set of moral codes. For this reason, many contemporary Satanists eschew traditional religious beliefs, attitudes and worship in favor of more egoistic, self-centering worldviews, natural law, survival of the fittest and practices such as materialism, individualism and magick. and my understanding (pre wikipedia) is coming from someone whose band played on Conan O Brian but he hates me, I fired his ass cuz he was a tweaker porn thief he can hire better lawyers than me, so no I won't tell you who _____________________
I have of late--but wherefore I know not--lost all my mirth, that this goodly frame, the earth, seems to me a sterile promontory, this most excellent canopy, the air, look you, this brave o'erhanging firmament, this majestical roof fretted with golden fire, why, it appears no other thing to me than a foul and pestilent congregation of vapours.
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Pendari Lorentz
Senior Member
Join date: 5 Sep 2003
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11-08-2005 19:42
not in my understanding of it, being informed by a practicing satanist Yes. This is what I meant by "Lucifer has been fighting for souls to keep them away from God and show them another way". I never said Lucifer was bad. Only that he defied God according to Christian doctrine. It depends on your beliefs in God as well as what you believe of Satan as to if that is a bad thing or not though. _____________________
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Sansarya Caligari
BLEH!
Join date: 25 Apr 2005
Posts: 1,206
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11-08-2005 20:28
Your Results:
1. Neo-Pagan (100%) Browse Neo-Pagan related books. Click here for info 2. New Age (85%) Browse New Age related books. Click here for info 3. Mahayana Buddhism (81%) Browse Mahayana Buddhism related books. Click here for info 4. Unitarian Universalism (81%) Browse Unitarian Universalism related books. Click here for info 5. New Thought (74%) Browse New Thought related books. Click here for info 6. Scientology (73%) Browse Scientology related books. Click here for info 7. Liberal Quakers (71%) Browse Liberal Quakers related books. Click here for info 8. Taoism (66%) Browse Taoism related books. Click here for info 9. Hinduism (66%) Browse Hinduism related books. Click here for info 10. Theravada Buddhism (63%) Browse Theravada Buddhism related books. Click here for info 11. Secular Humanism (62%) Browse Secular Humanism related books. Click here for info 12. Mainline - Liberal Christian Protestants (60%) Browse Mainline - Liberal Christian Protestants related books. Click here for info 13. Christian Science (Church of Christ, Scientist) (59%) Browse Christian Science (Church of Christ, Scientist) related books. Click here for info 14. Reform Judaism (56%) Browse Reform Judaism related books. Click here for info 15. Sikhism (55%) Browse Sikhism related books. Click here for info 16. Jainism (55%) Browse Jainism related books. Click here for info 17. Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-Day Saints (Mormons) (45%) Browse Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-Day Saints (Mormons) related books. Click here for info 18. Orthodox Judaism (45%) Browse Orthodox Judaism related books. Click here for info 19. Bahá'í Faith (42%) Browse Bahá'í Faith related books. Click here for info 20. Orthodox Quaker (42%) Browse Orthodox Quaker related books. Click here for info 21. Non-theist (39%) Browse Non-theist related books. Click here for info 22. Mainline - Conservative Christian Protestant (37%) Browse Mainline - Conservative Christian Protestant related books. Click here for info 23. Eastern Orthodox (35%) Browse Eastern Orthodox related books. Click here for info 24. Islam (35%) Browse Islam related books. Click here for info 25. Roman Catholic (35%) Browse Roman Catholic related books. Click here for info 26. Seventh Day Adventist (27%) Browse Seventh Day Adventist related books. Click here for info 27. Jehovah's Witness (16%) One has to wonder why Traditional Native American belief systems aren't even an option in the results/questionnaire...sure we're a minority, but there are an awful lot of Natives/Non-Natives who share the spirituality of Native Americans |
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Dark Korvin
Player in the RL game
Join date: 13 Jun 2005
Posts: 769
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11-08-2005 21:31
I tried clicking here, but no info appeared. I agree no shaivism, no santaria, no Kabalistic Jews, no LaVey Satanism, no Temple of Set, no Chaotes, no Dark Spirituality, no Kabalistic Jews, no Zoroastrianism. Granted I only partially agree with two of these religions, because they are almost atheistic, but still these would be fun religions to find a random percentage on. Just think how fun it would be to see numbers like 70% christian 60% satanist 50% santaria. lol |
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Dark Korvin
Player in the RL game
Join date: 13 Jun 2005
Posts: 769
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11-08-2005 21:41
That would be more like athiesm. Satan worship is much different. Look up Anton LaVey and Temple of Set. I think you are thinking that all satanist are the same. There are many different groups that would consider themselves Satanist. Those two are the biggest I know of. |
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Ulrika Zugzwang
Magnanimous in Victory
Join date: 10 Jun 2004
Posts: 6,382
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11-08-2005 21:44
1. Secular Humanism (100%)
Browse Secular Humanism related books. Click here for info 2. Unitarian Universalism (90%) Browse Unitarian Universalism related books. Click here for info 3. Non-theist (81%) Browse Non-theist related books. Click here for info 4. Liberal Quakers (71%) Browse Liberal Quakers related books. Click here for info 5. Theravada Buddhism (65%) Browse Theravada Buddhism related books. Click here for info 6. Neo-Pagan (60%) Browse Neo-Pagan related books. Click here for info 7. Mainline - Liberal Christian Protestants (60%) Browse Mainline - Liberal Christian Protestants related books. Click here for info 8. New Age (46%) Browse New Age related books. Click here for info 9. Reform Judaism (45%) Browse Reform Judaism related books. Click here for info 10. Taoism (44%) Browse Taoism related books. Click here for info 11. Mahayana Buddhism (35%) Browse Mahayana Buddhism related books. Click here for info 12. New Thought (31%) Browse New Thought related books. Click here for info 13. Orthodox Quaker (27%) Browse Orthodox Quaker related books. Click here for info 14. Sikhism (27%) Browse Sikhism related books. Click here for info 15. Christian Science (Church of Christ, Scientist) (22%) Browse Christian Science (Church of Christ, Scientist) related books. Click here for info 16. Scientology (22%) Browse Scientology related books. Click here for info 17. Bahá'í Faith (18%) Browse Bahá'í Faith related books. Click here for info 18. Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-Day Saints (Mormons) (18%) Browse Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-Day Saints (Mormons) related books. Click here for info 19. Mainline - Conservative Christian Protestant (14%) Browse Mainline - Conservative Christian Protestant related books. Click here for info 20. Eastern Orthodox (9%) Browse Eastern Orthodox related books. Click here for info 21. Hinduism (9%) Browse Hinduism related books. Click here for info 22. Islam (9%) Browse Islam related books. Click here for info 23. Jainism (9%) Browse Jainism related books. Click here for info 24. Orthodox Judaism (9%) Browse Orthodox Judaism related books. Click here for info 25. Roman Catholic (9%) Browse Roman Catholic related books. Click here for info 26. Seventh Day Adventist (9%) Browse Seventh Day Adventist related books. Click here for info 27. Jehovah's Witness (0%) Browse Jehovah's Witness related books. Click here for info _____________________
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Chance Abattoir
Future Rockin' Resmod
Join date: 3 Apr 2004
Posts: 3,898
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11-09-2005 06:59
correct me if I am wrong, but the Satanic doctrine is not the worship of satan, but the discarding of religion and God in all forms It's a mystery, isn't it?  _____________________
"The mob requires regular doses of scandal, paranoia and dilemma to alleviate the boredom of a meaningless existence."
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Lucifer Baphomet
Postmodern Demon
Join date: 8 Sep 2005
Posts: 1,771
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11-09-2005 07:18
This survey sucks, its too christianoccentric ..... as internet pop quizzes go http://quizfarm.com/test.php?q_id=10907 is a far better religion survey.
Mulch, Chance try this one instead..... btw here are the results i got on the one i posted You scored as Satanism. Your beliefs most closely resemble those of Satanism! Before you scream, do a bit of research on it. To be a Satanist, you don't actually have to believe in Satan. Satanism generally focuses upon the spiritual advancement of the self, rather than upon submission to a deity or a set of moral codes. Do some research if you immediately think of the satanic cult stereotype. Your beliefs may also resemble those of earth-based religions such as paganism. Satanism 96% atheism 83% agnosticism 79% Paganism 63% Buddhism 58% Hinduism 46% Judaism 42% Islam 33% Christianity 17% Ok so it doesn't subdivide the christians, but who cares, LOL |
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Alain Talamasca
Levelheaded Nutcase
Join date: 21 Sep 2005
Posts: 393
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11-09-2005 07:19
Two things of note:
Taoism came in at exactly 50% (hmmm.... ) Scientology was at 61%!  That's pretty high, I would think.Aside from that, I'd say it's pretty accurate: 1. Neo-Pagan (100%) 2. New Age (91%) 3. Unitarian Universalism (90%) 4. Mahayana Buddhism (89%) 5. Reform Judaism (78%) 6. Hinduism (76%) 7. Liberal Quakers (76%) 8. New Thought (74%) 9. Sikhism (71%) 10. Bahá'í Faith (67%) 11. Theravada Buddhism (65%) 12. Jainism (64%) 13. Mainline - Liberal Christian Protestants (63%) 14. Scientology (61%) 15. Orthodox Judaism (53%) 16. Christian Science (Church of Christ, Scientist) (50%) 17. Taoism (50%) 18. Secular Humanism (46%) 19. Islam (45%) 20. Orthodox Quaker (36%) 21. Non-theist (24%) 22. Mainline - Conservative Christian Protestant (20%) 23. Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-Day Saints (Mormons) (17%) 24. Seventh Day Adventist (14%) 25. Eastern Orthodox (9%) 26. Roman Catholic (9%) 27. Jehovah's Witness (6%) _____________________
Alain Talamasca,
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Gantheral Mason
Crusnik
Join date: 2 Sep 2005
Posts: 6
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11-09-2005 07:34
my beliefs really don't matter, but I found it interesting to do this quiz lol...
Your Results: # 1. Unitarian Universalism (100%) Browse Unitarian Universalism related books. Click here for info # 2. Mahayana Buddhism (85%) Browse Mahayana Buddhism related books. Click here for info # 3. Hinduism (69%) Browse Hinduism related books. Click here for info # 4. New Age (69%) Browse New Age related books. Click here for info # 5. Liberal Quakers (66%) Browse Liberal Quakers related books. Click here for info # 6. Neo-Pagan (64%) Browse Neo-Pagan related books. Click here for info # 7. Theravada Buddhism (58%) Browse Theravada Buddhism related books. Click here for info # 8. Christian Science (Church of Christ, Scientist) (54%) Browse Christian Science (Church of Christ, Scientist) related books. Click here for info # 9. New Thought (54%) Browse New Thought related books. Click here for info # 10. Scientology (54%) Browse Scientology related books. Click here for info # 11. Secular Humanism (53%) Browse Secular Humanism related books. Click here for info # 12. Mainline - Liberal Christian Protestants (51%) Browse Mainline - Liberal Christian Protestants related books. Click here for info # 13. Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-Day Saints (Mormons) (46%) Browse Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-Day Saints (Mormons) related books. Click here for info # 14. Eastern Orthodox (46%) Browse Eastern Orthodox related books. Click here for info # 15. Jehovah's Witness (46%) Browse Jehovah's Witness related books. Click here for info # 16. Orthodox Quaker (46%) Browse Orthodox Quaker related books. Click here for info # 17. Roman Catholic (46%) Browse Roman Catholic related books. Click here for info # 18. Sikhism (46%) Browse Sikhism related books. Click here for info # 19. Mainline - Conservative Christian Protestant (42%) Browse Mainline - Conservative Christian Protestant related books. Click here for info # 20. Seventh Day Adventist (38%) Browse Seventh Day Adventist related books. Click here for info # 21. Non-theist (37%) Browse Non-theist related books. Click here for info # 22. Orthodox Judaism (36%) Browse Orthodox Judaism related books. Click here for info # 23. Reform Judaism (36%) Browse Reform Judaism related books. Click here for info # 24. Taoism (32%) Browse Taoism related books. Click here for info # 25. Bahá'í Faith (31%) Browse Bahá'í Faith related books. Click here for info # 26. Islam (31%) Browse Islam related books. Click here for info # 27. Jainism (31%) Browse Jainism related books. Click here for info |
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Dark Korvin
Player in the RL game
Join date: 13 Jun 2005
Posts: 769
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11-09-2005 09:32
This survey sucks, its too christianoccentric ..... as internet pop quizzes go http://quizfarm.com/test.php?q_id=10907 is a far better religion survey. Mulch, Chance try this one instead..... btw here are the results i got on the one i posted You scored as Satanism. Your beliefs most closely resemble those of Satanism! Before you scream, do a bit of research on it. To be a Satanist, you don't actually have to believe in Satan. Satanism generally focuses upon the spiritual advancement of the self, rather than upon submission to a deity or a set of moral codes. Do some research if you immediately think of the satanic cult stereotype. Your beliefs may also resemble those of earth-based religions such as paganism. Satanism 96% atheism 83% agnosticism 79% Paganism 63% Buddhism 58% Hinduism 46% Judaism 42% Islam 33% Christianity 17% Ok so it doesn't subdivide the christians, but who cares, LOL You scored as Satanism. Your beliefs most closely resemble those of Satanism! Before you scream, do a bit of research on it. To be a Satanist, you don't actually have to believe in Satan. Satanism generally focuses upon the spiritual advancement of the self, rather than upon submission to a deity or a set of moral codes. Do some research if you immediately think of the satanic cult stereotype. Your beliefs may also resemble those of earth-based religions such as paganism. Satanism 100% Buddhism 96% Paganism 75% atheism 71% agnosticism 67% Islam 54% Judaism 33% Hinduism 29% Christianity 17% Yeah, much closer to what I actually believe! Thanks. |
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Chip Midnight
ate my baby!
Join date: 1 May 2003
Posts: 10,231
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11-09-2005 09:50
This survey sucks, its too christianoccentric ..... as internet pop quizzes go http://quizfarm.com/test.php?q_id=10907 is a far better religion survey. You scored as atheism. You are... an atheist, though you probably already knew this. Also, you probably have several people praying daily for your soul. Instead of simply being "nonreligious," atheists strongly believe in the lack of existence of a higher being, or God. atheism 92% Satanism 83% Buddhism 67% Paganism 63% agnosticism 58% Judaism 25% Christianity 21% Islam 17% Hinduism 4% _____________________
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Zuzu Fassbinder
Little Miss No Tomorrow
Join date: 17 Sep 2004
Posts: 2,048
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11-09-2005 09:52
First quiz this is either the same or similar to one from an old thread, I got pretty much the same result.
# 1. Secular Humanism (100%) # 2. Unitarian Universalism (90%) # 3. Non-theist (79%) On the second quiz: You scored as atheism. You are... an atheist, though you probably already knew this. Also, you probably have several people praying daily for your soul. Instead of simply being "nonreligious," atheists strongly believe in the lack of existence of a higher being, or God. atheism 67% agnosticism 63% Islam 58% Buddhism 50% Satanism 46% Paganism 42% Judaism 25% Christianity 25% Hinduism 0% _____________________
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Vanillia Tapioca
Second Life Resident
Join date: 26 Nov 2004
Posts: 1,322
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11-09-2005 11:53
First quiz...
1. Eastern Orthodox (87%) Browse Eastern Orthodox related books. Click here for info 2. Roman Catholic (87%) Browse Roman Catholic related books. Click here for info 3. Seventh Day Adventist (89%) Browse Seventh Day Adventist related books. Click here for info 4. Mainline - Conservative Christian Protestant (100%) Browse Mainline - Conservative Christian Protestant related books. Click here for info 5. Orthodox Quaker (84%) Browse Orthodox Quaker related books. Click here for info |
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Vanillia Tapioca
Second Life Resident
Join date: 26 Nov 2004
Posts: 1,322
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11-09-2005 12:02
second quiz..
You scored as Christianity. Your views are most similar to those of Christianity. Do more research on Christianity and possibly consider being baptized and accepting Jesus, if you aren't already Christian. Christianity is the second of the Abrahamic faiths; it follows Judaism and is followed by Islam. It differs in its belief of Jesus, as not a prophet nor historical figure, but as God in human form. The Holy Trinity is the concept that God takes three forms: the Father, the Son (Jesus), and the Holy Ghost (sometimes called Holy Spirit). Jesus taught the idea of instead of seeking revenge, one should love his or her neighbors and enemies. Christians believe that Jesus died on the cross to save humankind and forgive people's sins. Christianity 100% Islam 33% Judaism 33% Paganism 21% Buddhism 17% Hinduism 17% agnosticism 0% Satanism 0% atheism 0% |
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Chance Abattoir
Future Rockin' Resmod
Join date: 3 Apr 2004
Posts: 3,898
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11-09-2005 13:10
This survey sucks, its too christianoccentric ..... as internet pop quizzes go http://quizfarm.com/test.php?q_id=10907 is a far better religion survey. Ok so it doesn't subdivide the christians, but who cares, LOL These two questions are highly suspicious and make me wonder how it is scored:
Haha. It doesn't subdivide anything else either. _____________________
"The mob requires regular doses of scandal, paranoia and dilemma to alleviate the boredom of a meaningless existence."
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Desmond Shang
Guvnah of Caledon
Join date: 14 Mar 2005
Posts: 5,250
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11-09-2005 13:10
Ah, MUCH better quiz, Lucifer!
Somehow I just *knew* you would join this discussion sooner or later, even though I hadn't quite believed that you existed. Did I serve to enlighten anyone in any way? Or was this all simply an evil ploy of mine to see if Ulrika would waste 3.7 minutes of her life filling out such a pointless, garish quiz? For anyone converting to Quakerism - ah, it was most definitely *not* a ploy, no, not even in the slightest way. _____________________
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Chance Abattoir
Future Rockin' Resmod
Join date: 3 Apr 2004
Posts: 3,898
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11-09-2005 13:17
Did I serve to enlighten anyone in any way? The test reveals more about the test designer than the taker. _____________________
"The mob requires regular doses of scandal, paranoia and dilemma to alleviate the boredom of a meaningless existence."
-Insane Ramblings, Anton LaVey |