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TO ALL THE KIDS WHO SURVIVED the 1930's 40's, 50's, 60's and 70's !!

Tod69 Talamasca
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01-19-2006 16:02
I found it all to be true.

Now I think the goverments enjoy giving us new fears so when it comes time to increase taxes or boost a business (like pharmaceuticals) they just tell us something new to fear and how to fix it. Smoking = bad, so the price goes up. Need to stop smoking? Here's some pills & patches that cost more than a pack of cigarettes. AH! Now that you've stopped smoking, you live longer. Guess you'll be paying taxes a bit longer too! Now that you're old, you need health care more than ever. But since so many are in need, we have to raise the costs. Ooops!!! More pedo's are now out there, better buy yer children a cell phone so they can call for help!! OoooO! All that rich food that a wealthy nation is eating has made you fat! Better start buying all these expensive diet aides. Same for fat reduction surgeories.

Geez, I remember when all we had to fear was Communists taking over. Was so much easier then.
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Felicity Sneerwell
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01-19-2006 17:03
From: MJ Hathor
You too!! I can't even stand to look at a can of aqua-net on the store shelf, it makes me want to run the other way screaming. Although I do miss my LA Gear :(

MJ


Hehe, my trolling for guys clothes consisted of three things at that time -
1. Black spandex miniskirt
2. Oversized backless white sweater (meant no bra, lol)
3. Hooker pumps

I still can't believe my parents allowed me to go out the door dressed like that. I am sure they figured if they didn't allow it, I would have shoved my hoochie clothing in my car and end up changing at a gas station anyhow. At least I had enough sense to not dress like that at school. But I always wore the high heels anyhow. Ah the beginning of my shoe addiction.
Rickard Roentgen
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01-19-2006 18:09
Heh, I must have been the only child with old fashioned parents in the 80s. I had a 22 on my 10th birthday for cryin out loud.
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01-19-2006 18:47
From: Felicity Sneerwell
Hehe, my trolling for guys clothes consisted of three things at that time -
1. Black spandex miniskirt
2. Oversized backless white sweater (meant no bra, lol)
3. Hooker pumps

I still can't believe my parents allowed me to go out the door dressed like that. I am sure they figured if they didn't allow it, I would have shoved my hoochie clothing in my car and end up changing at a gas station anyhow. At least I had enough sense to not dress like that at school. But I always wore the high heels anyhow. Ah the beginning of my shoe addiction.



OUt of curiosity, how high did you rat your bangs up? My cousin had the tallest damn bangs I have ever seen, she measured them around 10 inches and they were SOLID.


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Joy Honey
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01-19-2006 19:05
From: Rickard Roentgen
Heh, I must have been the only child with old fashioned parents in the 80s. I had a 22 on my 10th birthday for cryin out loud.


You're in Oregon, we're weird out here (so I've been told) :D
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01-19-2006 20:02
From: Joy Honey
You're in Oregon, we're weird out here (so I've been told) :D


hehehe, yes we are :D
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01-19-2006 20:10
From: someone
But things are not the same. Children dissapear and are only ever seen on milk cartons. The world is a more crowded place and a more dangerous place. The suns rays -- harmless for the most part when I was a child -- now cause cancer and we smear goop on our bodies to protect it when we leave the house. Yes we drank from the hose -- but that was before the population quintupled and they had to build a wastewater treatement up the street from the house and found lead in the water from rusty old pipes.
Except these things are either manifestly not true or the fearmongers have taken people's natural inability to evaluate tiny risks and bring them to our attention and exploit it.

The incidence of child abduction by a stranger is so low as to be effectively zero. Most of the "kids on milk cartons" were taken by a non-custodial parent in a custody dispute. The Center for Missing and Exploited Children capitalized on the horrific concept of having your child whisked from under your watchful eye at the grocery store to bring more attention - and dollars - to their organization. The net result is that people actually believe that the world is full of predators waiting for your instant of inattention, it isn't. In advancing their cause, they amplified fears that are simply unjustified by reality.

The sun has always been harmful in excess, that's why we tan. The sun has not become more dangerous, however, because of advances in medicine generally and living longer than they have ever before, people are more likely to experience melanoma because they previously would have died of something else first. And although it is true that sunscreen can ablate UV light which can indeed cause melanoma forming injury, we don't know what deleterious effects sunscreen might have over decades of use. However, there are plenty of manufacturers of sunscreen who would love for you to believe that peril is raining upon us from the sky and that for a fee, they'll protect us.

As for drinking from the hose, there are two points made there. The first is that water has become more pathogen laden as a result of population density. I don't know whether that is true, but there are affirmative reasons to believe that protecting yourself from more benign microbes can be harmful in itself. Recent, well validated studies have shown that the incidence of asthma is increasing but primarily in first borns in a household. The most credible explanation at present is that the later children have the advantage of their older sibling bringing home a host of microbes and allergens that our anti-microbial soap fetish keeps from the first child. Cleanliness may be next to godliness, but a challenged immune system appears to be a more effective immune system.

Lead is a heavy metal which your body cannot eliminate effectively. It has conclusively been shown to retard mental development in children exposed to high levels of environmental lead. What is far less known is what the effects of trace amounts are, they could be slightly hazardous, they could be below our abilities to measure. Zero lead would probably be better than non-zero lead, but at what cost for what benefit? Again, the sellers of water treatment equipment would prefer that you eye your tap with suspicion, the more so the better.

This is working into a full-fleged rant so bear with me, or not.

I'd often pondered how we'd gone from a culture that was rather blithe about hitchhiking to one where you'd be an idiot to either hitch or pick one up. I suspect it went something like this: out of all of the multitudinous hitchhikers, one went bad and the national media swooped down on it with their "if it bleeds, it leads" mentality. This put the kernel of fear out into the culture making people slightly less likely to hitch or pick-up. This circumspection would feed off itself, the more drivers were leary of passengers, the more likely a hiker would be to encounter a driver with an ulterior motive. The more hikers came to be concerned about drivers, the more desperate the hiker you did pick up would be. Spin this feedback loop around a few decades and each party would be nuts to take the risk, and interestingly enough, they'd be slightly more correct in their belief.

The national media's ability to bring you the world now and the ratings boosts that fear buys them is incredibly valuable. Colombine was horrific, but television picking it to pieces for months across the country turned what would have been a sad story from some little town in Colorado into a national hand-wringer. A person is so much more likely to get hit by lightning than shot in school that the comparison is almost silly; your bathtub is infinitely more hazardous. But there isn't nearly as much money to be made in bathtub grip-strips as there is in installing metal detectors in schools where kids are carrying just about everything but guns. But this is an extreme example, watch how the local news will hype the hell out of the upcomming rain or snowstorm to get a clearer picture of the profits of fear. You may viscerally believe that schoolkids have become more malevolent, but I think it pretty clear that snow hasn't changed much in fifty years. Based on the news, though, it might as well have turned to brimstone.

By any actual measure, the US and the world is a far safer place to be now than it has ever been. Unfortunately, I cannot induce you to buy stuff based on that assertion.
Felicity Sneerwell
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01-19-2006 20:11
From: Creami Cannoli
OUt of curiosity, how high did you rat your bangs up? My cousin had the tallest damn bangs I have ever seen, she measured them around 10 inches and they were SOLID.


:D


The steps for the Felicity big ass 80's bangs:
1. Heat up the curling iron to scorching
2. Curl all bangs forward
3. Use ratting comb to rat them in the opposite direction of the curl
4. Use copious amounts of hair spray

Please note that my "hair bear" bangs weren't a solid wall, they were more spikey. If I had a scanner, I would scan a picture in and post it. Then we could all get a good laugh out of my MC Hammer pants. HAMMER TIME!!! hehehe
Zuzu Fassbinder
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01-19-2006 20:33
From: Introvert Petunia

By any actual measure, the US and the world is a far safer place to be now than it has ever been. Unfortunately, I cannot induce you to buy stuff based on that assertion.


Nostalgia is a wonderful thing. I remember riding my bicycle barefoot with no helmets and pads etc.
I also remember getting a lot of stitches and a couple casts. Not to mention tetnus shots 'just in case' after cutting myself on rusty metal or nails.
I also remember the neighbor girl who crashed her bicycle and was in the hospital for a week with amnesia while they tried to determine if she had permenant damage.

Some improvements are just good sense. For example, lead exposure is proven to be bad. True that properly maintained lead paint is usually quite safe, but its an easily eliminated risk.

I do think that in some ways people are a bit over protetctive in some ways. And more lax on discipline than I might like. Part of it is that family sizes seem to be smaller, which means more is invested in each child, hence the increased desire to protect. I do think that that unstructured and lightly supervised free time is very important for child. It helps build creativity, social skills, independence and the ability to compromise. Crime, especially stranger crime, is much lower than in the 70's ... or is that just my perception?

I think the biggest cause of coddling is the lawsuit crazy culture we have developed.


Its funny that you follow up the wolf/sheep/dog post with this one. :D

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Bertha Horton
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01-19-2006 21:27
OK, let's look at it this way.
From: someone
To all the kids who survived the 1930's, 40's, 50's, 60's and 70's
None survived... as kids!
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Spinner Poutine
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01-20-2006 00:53
From: David Valentino
I survived the 60's and 70's.ut I'm not sure about the 80's, as I have very little recollection of that time...


We had an 80's? Dude I have soo many questions.

Seriously tho, I think it all changed when they stopped letting you spank your child without fear of a law suit
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01-20-2006 19:06
When I think about all the things I did as a kid, it is hard to believe I am alive to tell the tale.

I remember as a kid playing in the old abandoned meatpacking plant in the woods. Way out in the woods. The building was literally falling apart. It was about 4 or 5 levels with big holes in the floor all the way down where some sort of poping had rusted away or been removed.

The holes were a few feet wide and we would run and jump over them. It seemed pretty natural at the time. Looking back it is surreal.

If you didn't want to go to the meatpacking plant, you could go swimming in the pond. You just had to keep an eye out for the water moccasins. If you saw one, it was best to swim on the other side of the pond until they got scared and went away. If you had a hoe or some other garden implement, you could chop off their heads. I don't remember anyone ever getting bitten.
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Osprey Therian
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01-20-2006 21:20
Two things about lead paint -
Years ago Philadelphia ran commercials showing an idle slum-dwelling child picking off flaking paint chips and eating them - to underline the importance of lead-paint awareness.

The person with a job as a painter is exposed day in, day out, to whatever toxins are in the paint he uses. Lead paint is better than the alternatives, therefore he would be exposed to lead. An acquaintance of mine does amazing custom paint on cars and motorcycles. The best paints he uses contain lead, and he gets sick from it, but keeps right on using them.
Selador Cellardoor
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01-21-2006 10:49
Yes, that was something I had forgotten. When I was at school, one of the things we used to spend our pocket money on was mercury, which you could buy from the local chemist shop (pharmacy). I remember carrying it around in my handkerchief and playing with it all day.
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01-21-2006 10:56
It's quite scary really when you think about it. My dad had a shed in the garden where he did his own chemistry experiments. He lit a pile of aluminium which blew up in his face. To this day, he still only has faint whisps of eyebrows. I believe he also once told me that he boobytrapped the door so that a hammer would fall on your head if you went through, so you had to wear an old army helmet that hung on a nail outside. Clearly he survived, but you have to wonder who didn't, or ended up with parts missing that were more important than their eyebrows.

Mind you, this was a generation where the expectation still existed that you might be randomly killed by disease, war or just something inexplicable, particularly if you were a child, so a few physical risks weren't much relatively speaking, compared to, say, a polio epidemic.
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01-21-2006 11:53
I haven't read through the whole thread, but I wanted to say the opening post was brilliant. Bravo, Lecktor.
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01-21-2006 12:24
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01-21-2006 15:14
From: Introvert Petunia
Except these things are either manifestly not true or the fearmongers have taken people's natural inability to evaluate tiny risks and bring them to our attention and exploit it.

The incidence of child abduction by a stranger is so low as to be effectively zero. Most of the "kids on milk cartons" were taken by a non-custodial parent in a custody dispute. The Center for Missing and Exploited Children capitalized on the horrific concept of having your child whisked from under your watchful eye at the grocery store to bring more attention - and dollars - to their organization. The net result is that people actually believe that the world is full of predators waiting for your instant of inattention, it isn't. In advancing their cause, they amplified fears that are simply unjustified by reality.

The sun has always been harmful in excess, that's why we tan. The sun has not become more dangerous, however, because of advances in medicine generally and living longer than they have ever before, people are more likely to experience melanoma because they previously would have died of something else first. And although it is true that sunscreen can ablate UV light which can indeed cause melanoma forming injury, we don't know what deleterious effects sunscreen might have over decades of use. However, there are plenty of manufacturers of sunscreen who would love for you to believe that peril is raining upon us from the sky and that for a fee, they'll protect us.

As for drinking from the hose, there are two points made there. The first is that water has become more pathogen laden as a result of population density. I don't know whether that is true, but there are affirmative reasons to believe that protecting yourself from more benign microbes can be harmful in itself. Recent, well validated studies have shown that the incidence of asthma is increasing but primarily in first borns in a household. The most credible explanation at present is that the later children have the advantage of their older sibling bringing home a host of microbes and allergens that our anti-microbial soap fetish keeps from the first child. Cleanliness may be next to godliness, but a challenged immune system appears to be a more effective immune system.

Lead is a heavy metal which your body cannot eliminate effectively. It has conclusively been shown to retard mental development in children exposed to high levels of environmental lead. What is far less known is what the effects of trace amounts are, they could be slightly hazardous, they could be below our abilities to measure. Zero lead would probably be better than non-zero lead, but at what cost for what benefit? Again, the sellers of water treatment equipment would prefer that you eye your tap with suspicion, the more so the better.

This is working into a full-fleged rant so bear with me, or not.

I'd often pondered how we'd gone from a culture that was rather blithe about hitchhiking to one where you'd be an idiot to either hitch or pick one up. I suspect it went something like this: out of all of the multitudinous hitchhikers, one went bad and the national media swooped down on it with their "if it bleeds, it leads" mentality. This put the kernel of fear out into the culture making people slightly less likely to hitch or pick-up. This circumspection would feed off itself, the more drivers were leary of passengers, the more likely a hiker would be to encounter a driver with an ulterior motive. The more hikers came to be concerned about drivers, the more desperate the hiker you did pick up would be. Spin this feedback loop around a few decades and each party would be nuts to take the risk, and interestingly enough, they'd be slightly more correct in their belief.

The national media's ability to bring you the world now and the ratings boosts that fear buys them is incredibly valuable. Colombine was horrific, but television picking it to pieces for months across the country turned what would have been a sad story from some little town in Colorado into a national hand-wringer. A person is so much more likely to get hit by lightning than shot in school that the comparison is almost silly; your bathtub is infinitely more hazardous. But there isn't nearly as much money to be made in bathtub grip-strips as there is in installing metal detectors in schools where kids are carrying just about everything but guns. But this is an extreme example, watch how the local news will hype the hell out of the upcomming rain or snowstorm to get a clearer picture of the profits of fear. You may viscerally believe that schoolkids have become more malevolent, but I think it pretty clear that snow hasn't changed much in fifty years. Based on the news, though, it might as well have turned to brimstone.

By any actual measure, the US and the world is a far safer place to be now than it has ever been. Unfortunately, I cannot induce you to buy stuff based on that assertion.

Malachi, I disagree with you abut the children and safety. One would think that there really aren't more pedophiles out there (or more people inclined to act on such notions), and I have always thought, well, there are of course more of anything as the population expands, and that's probably all it is, and the likelihood of something happening to my child is very, very low.

BUT. Scary stuff happens, and to way more people than you would expect on the basis of the hypotheses above.

In our nice suburban neighborhood, where I watched my kids to the schoolbus all the time (and other parents, with farther distances to the school bus, walk their kids there), you would think we were all being overprotective for nothing. But in the ten years I have been here, there was a car in the neighborhood following the kids one time.

In neighborhoods over, there were kids almost snatched by a car where the guy actually got out. Who would have thought it? And there have been a couple of letters home from school about such things happening of people and cars we needed to be on the look-out for.

So, there may be the same percentage of pedophiles as there always were, but the population is greater now and more compact, thus putting more pedophiles and the like in a smaller square-mile area.

OR - more of the same percentage of pedophiles and the like who always existed are brave enough to act out on their fantasies or desires. OR - there actually ARE more people with these notions, as well as more who are willing to act on them. I've thought about it, but I don't have the stats to know.

In any case, the danger is real, and it is real in my neighborhood and in all neighborhoods.

Regarding the situation in the schools: Is Columbine - and the several other schools where this sort of thing has happened - an aberration? One would like to think so. But after raising two girls during this era - the girls are now 16 and 18 - and seeing them through life at various schools, and knowing what all has happened at those various schools, I would say schools are definitely more dangerous now.

Fights in the cafeteria, hallways, schoolyard aren't as unusual as they were when I went to school. Girls physically fighting - this happened very rarely when I went to school. The general level of aggression and hostility, as well as bullying, are greater than when I went to school. The general level of civility - on the part of the students and the teachers - is lower now, the language used is worse, and threats of aggresion more frequent than they once were. Students seem to be physically more afraid of each other than they were when I went to school. People bringing weapons, people caught with weapons, and/or with plans or threats to use them, people bringing drugs and alchohol to school - these have all happened frequently in my girls' schools, whereas they were quite unusual when I was going to school.

I think something has changed in the intervening decades. It's a different world out there for kids now, and it is a more dangerous world.

coco
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It's fascinating ...
01-21-2006 15:24
... to compare the way Malachi presents his evidence and his arguments with the way Coco presents hers.

It's really very fas--- oh! Look! There's a trainwreck!
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01-21-2006 15:37
Just what the hell are you implying?

Either Malachi or I, according to you, does a lousier job of talking, and in either case, I resent that idea on the face of it! He's presenting his thoughts on the matter, and I'm presenting mine.

I'm not ARGUING anything! I'm giving my thoughts on the issue - which I have obviously thought a lot about, and so has Malachi, and I'm giving my personal experience and how that didn't exactly jibe with my original thoughts. My girls are 16 and 18 and I believe Malachi has a daughter as well, and I am discussing this with him, as I like him a great deal, and I am talking to him as one parent to another. Period, the end.

They aren't evidence and arguments at ALL.

So to jump in here and make some totally absurd case like you did (against one of us, and I'm pretty sure it's me, judging by the way this forum loves to create scapegoats) is ridiculous.

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01-23-2006 08:05
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... to compare the way Malachi presents his evidence and his arguments with the way Coco presents hers.

It's really very fas--- oh! Look! There's a trainwreck!


Don't see the point of this posting.

Yes, both Malachi and Coco have presented a valid point of view - I suspect they are both right. Many of the things that we are so concerned about, or fearful about, today, were not regarded as a problem then. But I think there is an increased level of violence in society today. People are more willing to use weapons on each other, and also do more vile things to each other than used to be the case.
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01-23-2006 10:29
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Many of the things that we are so concerned about, or fearful about, today, were not regarded as a problem then. But I think there is an increased level of violence in society today. People are more willing to use weapons on each other, and also do more vile things to each other than used to be the case.
You've touched on exactly one of the points I was trying to make: that people's perception of the relative incidence of harm is indeed increased, despite it's actual incidence plummeting. And to make more clear my suspected cause, it is media pandering to our prurient interests regarding violence and our inherent inability to comprehend very small levels of risk.

I have attached one of the most illustrative of Daly & Wilson's extremely rigorous and enlightening book Homicide. The reason that they chose homicide to look at from the perspective of evolutionary psychology is that the data are fantastic. For all the interpersonal conflict that happens among humans, homicide is non-subjective, well recorded, often investigated and has been so across place and time for millenia. In the attached example, note the breadh of time and the hundredfold decrease in rate. I certainly cannot recapitulate the book in this space, but the trend shown in the graph is indeed echoed throughout. Much of the book is also devoted to showing that homicide is very clearly targeted, almost exclusively toward people who know each other, with random violence deserving special mention because it is "abberational" in almost all senses of the term.

I am not saying that random violence never occurs, but the rate at which it does is so small as to be effectively nil. As an example of a random school shooting from an era of much lower media saturation, look at Brenda Ann Spencer. Who is Brenda? Had the Boomtown Rats not immortalized her in their song "I Don't like Mondays", almost no one would have ever heard of her. In 1979, 16-year-old Brenda shot at children arriving at an Elementary School in San Diego from her house across the street, killing two and wounding nine. Do you remember? Had you heard of it? Certainly not Columbine in number of dead, but certainly far less known because it lacked the fearmongering of Columbine era media.

So let's roll the clock back even further to 1966 and Charles Whitman. Most don't even remember his name despite having made the cover of Time magazine in that year. Charles stabbed his mother to death and then climbed to the top of the bell tower at UTexas and killed 16 and wounded 30. Ah yes, the bell-tower, okay I heard of that.

So I pose the question again, have things indeed gotten more violent, or do we just feel that they have? The data say no, but the data are not what influences peoples perceptions and feelings.
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01-23-2006 10:36
I'm talking about the fifties, sixties, etc., versus today.

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01-23-2006 10:44
From: Neehai Zapata

I remember as a kid playing in the old abandoned meatpacking plant in the woods. Way out in the woods. The building was literally falling apart. It was about 4 or 5 levels with big holes in the floor all the way down where some sort of piping had rusted away or been removed.


Good lord. This SO sounds like the beginning of a horror movie, or a really nasty video game... :D
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01-23-2006 12:57
I often do wonder how I survived my childhood.

I climbed a tree I wasn't supposed to, fell out, knocked the wind out of me, survived.
I fell off my bike doing a no-hands turn gripping the sissy bar, whacked my head like a coconut on a rock, saw stars and survived, much chagrined.
I have escaped a number of close calls with men who wanted to molest me, abduct me or I don't know what but it wasn't good (while still a minor, let's not discuss adult interactions here), but kept my wits, followed my gut and got out.
I roller skated, ice skated, skiied, skate boarded, biked, rode sleds of various types, climbed (and fell out of) trees, waded in ponds, lagoons, creeks, sewage ditches (so said my mom we called it a creek) often without waterproof gear.
I went to playgrounds outside my neighborhood, exploring on my own, met with and played with kids there without adult supervision.

so did anything "bad" happen?

Yep.

Broke my arm. In school. In gym class. Playing a supervised game of Duck Duck Goose. (really, I know it's absurd)

My cousin broke her arm on the jungle gym on school grounds.

A classmate in kindergarden cracked his head open on the slide, flipping over the grip bar at the top.

Cuts, scrapes, abrasions, I have the scars yet, badges really, from all of the above activities. I managed to miss out on rusty nails but I know some less fortunate folks who had to get the shots. Ended up with a boo-boo on my arm that stuck to the bandage and when the dressing was being changed, I could see my muscle, exposed. That was cool, the Merthiolate my mom put on afterwards (disinfectant, bright orange, burns like Tabasco) made me scream so loud the neighbor came over from next door.

But honestly, the worst wounds were emotional, or happened later on, in my teens, some really awful stuff happened to folks I knew or went to school with but they could have just as easily happened earlier on.

I think the more crowded, more communicative, more litigious world we live in now makes a difference. Would I prefer to going back to no seat belts in cars? Heck no! I have seen the results of those that didn't wear them or didnt' have them, it's bad. I know it's certainly saved me at least minor injuries over the years.

Would a bike helmet have been a good idea? Yeap. I'd've thought it cool, like my motorcycle helmet, loved that blue sparkly brain bucket!

I wish my nieces and nephews had the benefit of just going up the street to knock on a friend's door to ask them to come out and play, I think that some social curtesies have been lost there. Having a modicum of freedom, to go play, to enjoy the sunshine was a wonderful thing. That I'd wish back.

Oh and those of us old enough to remember, what is now called "diet" soda was initially billed as "sugar-free". It wasn't about weight loss, it was about saving your teeth from rotting in sugary syrup, and for diabetics to have something tasty too.

But I'm just an old fogey. hehe
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