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Bush Authorized Domestic Spying
Chance Abattoir
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12-16-2005 12:02
From: Lizbeth Marlowe
Yes, I get that a lot, it comes from fear. People feel they need to keep secrets...stuff they are ashamed of...they fear big brother...I do too, it's not gonna be easy, but it's possible.


Nah, it's the fear that people are keeping secrets that will create that society. I personally like secrets. The best thing about a Xmas present is not opening it and preferring just to keep the mystery alive about what's inside. Drives other people nuts for some reason. :confused:
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Chance Abattoir
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12-16-2005 12:04
From: Ulrika Zugzwang
Yipes! It looks like Republicans have been angered by the Executive order to allow eavesdropping without search warrants.


Heh. That's so politician. They suddenly have morals when their own dirty secrets and rackets are at stake.

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Lecktor Hannibal
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12-16-2005 12:07
From: Bill Diamond
...and neither is the New YorK Times...

... nor Ulrika ...
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Juro Kothari
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12-16-2005 12:44
From: Chance Abattoir
I ..would have been screwed in .. new forms of anal abuse...we would've been raped with .. play .. butt rape .. as long as we .. serve two masters


Fun with editing quotes!
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Chance Abattoir
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12-16-2005 12:52
From: Juro Kothari
Fun with editing quotes!


lol. Dude, I almost choked on my pretzel- Bush style!
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Chip Midnight
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12-16-2005 12:54
From: Lizbeth Marlowe
I want to wear a chip in my skin that will log all my comings and goings, so that I will never be accused of a crime I didn't commit or was no where near.


Do I get any say in this? :eek: :D
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Neehai Zapata
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12-16-2005 12:56
From: someone
Amazingly, the Washington Post left this bit out of the story...

Quote:
Government officials credited the new program with uncovering several terrorist plots, including one by Iyman Faris, an Ohio trucker who pleaded guilty in 2003 to supporting al-Qaida by planning to destroy the Brooklyn Bridge, the report said.


http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/10488458/

Yeah...how dare we spy on terrorists working in our own country...

I bet we would also catch more shoplifters if we strip searched every customer at gunpoint. I'm not saying we should do such a thing, but I think it woould cut down on crime.

As for the Bill Clinton remark. Clinton got shit done.

Last I checked Clinton was able to apprehend terrorists, put them in jail and do it all without disregarding the law. Bush can do jack and shit while bending every rule to suit him.
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Bill Diamond
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12-16-2005 13:00
From: someone
Originally Posted by Neehai Zapata

Clinton got shit done.


Actually...that's EXACTLY how I feel......:D
Picabo Hedges
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12-16-2005 13:25
From: Magnum Serpentine
I wish President WIlliam Clinton had gotten to serve two more terms. And all the Fundamentalist had gotten voted out of office. We would not be in the mess we are in now.

As a response to the April 19, 1995 Oklahoma City Bombing, then-President Clinton proposed legislation that would allow, among other things, the Federal Government to spy on organizations that the Attorney General had declared dangerous. In essence, he would have legalized the type of (illegal) domestic spying that Lyndon Johnson and Richard Nixon (the latter was threatened with impeachment for domestic spying, among other crimes) had engaged in.
A little before the domestic spying fiasco, President Clinton had issued an executive order, allowing warrantless searches of public housing. (The US Supreme Court later declared his actions unconstitutional.)
Neehai Zapata
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12-16-2005 16:10
From: someone
As a response to the April 19, 1995 Oklahoma City Bombing, then-President Clinton proposed legislation that would allow, among other things, the Federal Government to spy on organizations that the Attorney General had declared dangerous.

I have taken the liberty to highlight the important words in that sentence.
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12-16-2005 20:33
From: Chance Abattoir
I look forward to your utopian future and wholeheartedly embrace it with jellybeans from the sky. I look forward to launching covert attacks against the Ticktock man or changing my name to V and quoting Shakespeare while I do it.


You... you referenced Ellison and Moore in the same post! I so totally want you now, and I don't even know your gender. :D
Ulrika Zugzwang
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12-16-2005 20:41
From: Elspeth Withnail
You... you referenced Ellison and Moore in the same post! I so totally want you now, and I don't even know your gender. :D
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Susie Boffin
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12-16-2005 20:49
Judging from some of the posts in these forums I am guessing that the majority voted for that guy unlike the rest of America. If you don't want to fess up that's ok but stop yer whining about that imbiclel you put in office.

How the heck do you spell imbecel?
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Zuzu Fassbinder
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12-16-2005 20:58
From: Susie Boffin
Judging from some of the posts in these forums I am guessing that the majority voted for that guy unlike the rest of America. If you don't want to fess up that's ok but stop yer whining about that imbicle you put in office.


I had my felt pen all ready to check McCain, but Karl Rove's smear campaign stopped that. Instead I checked "Ralph Nader" in protest.
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Blueman Steele
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OMG you people are hillarious
12-17-2005 10:39
He signed a secret bill to spy on whoever he wanted to without court order and review.

Of course we spy on citizens... we just normally,, ya know.. keep track of it and get warrents.

This just let him do as he please ... no way he'd abuse it *snrk.
Chance Abattoir
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12-17-2005 10:45
From: Susie Boffin

How the heck do you spell imbecel?


"W"
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Zuzu Fassbinder
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12-17-2005 11:03
From: Chance Abattoir
"W"


or more completely:

"W" of mass destruction
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From: Bud
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Ravi Zuma
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12-17-2005 13:28
From: Lizbeth Marlowe


I want to wear a chip in my skin that will log all my comings and goings, so that I will never be accused of a crime I didn't commit or was no where near.



Hear, hear! I've argued this point many times in class rooms, private conversations, etc. etc. If you have nothing to hide, why worry about cameras?
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Ulrika Zugzwang
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12-17-2005 14:37
From: Ravi Zuma
Hear, hear! I've argued this point many times in class rooms, private conversations, etc. etc. If you have nothing to hide, why worry about cameras?
Cool!

Please post your personal contact information here including your real name, address, phone number, cell-phone number, IP address (if static), and a photograph. If you have nothing to hide, why worry about your anonymity?

~Ulrika~
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Zuzu Fassbinder
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12-17-2005 15:04
From: Ulrika Zugzwang
Cool!

Please post your personal contact information here including your real name, address, phone number, cell-phone number, IP address (if static), and a photograph. If you have nothing to hide, why worry about your anonymity?

~Ulrika~


You forgot to ask for SSN, computer account passwords and debit card pin number
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