And you still live in the US... why exactly?
I can't speak for Dark, but in my case, I'm not letting the assholes have my country without saying something about it.
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Aliasi Stonebender
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12-14-2005 12:23
I can't speak for Dark, but in my case, I'm not letting the assholes have my country without saying something about it. _____________________
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Paolo Portocarrero
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12-14-2005 17:28
Texas is oft shamed for its bass ackward political ways, but I am soooo proud of my local congressman, Lloyd Doggett. This snippet is worth the three minutes:
http://www.house.gov/doggett/speeches/patriotact121405.wmv _____________________
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Joy Honey
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12-14-2005 17:34
Texas is oft shamed for its bass ackward political ways, but I am soooo proud of my local congressman, Lloyd Doggett. This snippet is worth the three minutes: http://www.house.gov/doggett/speeches/patriotact121405.wmv /me applauds Thanks so much for the link _____________________
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Paolo Portocarrero
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12-14-2005 18:08
/me applauds Thanks so much for the link Velkommen! Now, go call your senators!  _____________________
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Ulrika Zugzwang
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12-14-2005 19:46
What a brilliant and moving speech. Thank you so much for the link. Below is a transcript of its amazing last sixty seconds.
Authoritarianism is not born full bodied. It is conceived in small injustices, which tolerated over time become irreversible. Benjamin Franklin understood, when he said those who give up essential liberty to purchase a little temporary saftey deserve neither their liberty nor their saftey. This much is certain. Each day of this administration brings more news of deaths of true patriots abroad and more abuses of our values by those who claim to be patriots at home. This is an administration where the ends always seem to justify the means but their ends always seem to often betray our saftey and their means forsake our values. To those who promote this misguided act: pull down your false colors, raise the American flag of freedom, reject this bill. ~Ulrika~ _____________________
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Ulrika Zugzwang
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12-15-2005 06:47
The "Patriot" Act just passed the house. On Friday the filibuster starts in the Senate.
The House voted 251 to 174 yesterday to renew the USA Patriot Act, setting up a confrontation over the revised anti-terrorism measure with a group of Democratic and Republican senators who say it would not go far enough to protect civil liberties. I blame those who voted for Republicans. Don't make the same mistake next election. ~Ulrika~ _____________________
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Anya Dmytryk
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12-15-2005 07:05
Velkommen! Now, go call your senators! *sigh* the lovely peple of dc have no senators, nor any representation in congress. i can however, walk across the street and heckle congressmen. although, while that might be fun, i'm not sure it would accomplish much.  _____________________
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Joy Honey
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12-15-2005 07:39
*sigh* the lovely peple of dc have no senators, nor any representation in congress. i can however, walk across the street and heckle congressmen. although, while that might be fun, i'm not sure it would accomplish much. Oooooh can you go sit in the gallery and heckle too? _____________________
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Chance Abattoir
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12-15-2005 07:51
The "Patriot" Act just passed the house. On Friday the filibuster starts in the Senate. The House voted 251 to 174 yesterday to renew the USA Patriot Act, setting up a confrontation over the revised anti-terrorism measure with a group of Democratic and Republican senators who say it would not go far enough to protect civil liberties. I blame those who voted for Republicans. Don't make the same mistake next election. ~Ulrika~ Jesus.  _____________________
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Chosen Few
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12-15-2005 08:25
Texas is oft shamed for its bass ackward political ways, but I am soooo proud of my local congressman, Lloyd Doggett. This snippet is worth the three minutes: http://www.house.gov/doggett/speeches/patriotact121405.wmv Wow! That Doggett guy is awesome. Thanks for posting this, Paolo. Now, if only the speach had worked. _____________________
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Ramus Overlord
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12-15-2005 12:24
I blame those who voted for Republicans. Don't make the same mistake next election. You're welcome.  |
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Chip Midnight
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12-15-2005 12:37
Wow! That Doggett guy is awesome. Thanks for posting this, Paolo. Now, if only the speach had worked. No doubt. That guy rocks, and I thought the following quote was awesome. "Mr. Speaker, authoritarianism is not born full bodied. It is conceived in small injustices which tolerated over time become irreversible." Brilliant. _____________________
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Chosen Few
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12-15-2005 13:53
No doubt. That guy rocks, and I thought the following quote was awesome. "Mr. Speaker, authoritarianism is not born full bodied. It is conceived in small injustices which tolerated over time become irreversible." Brilliant. Absolutely. _____________________
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Ulrika Zugzwang
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Hurrah!
12-16-2005 11:30
Senate Blocks Extension of Patriot Act
The filibuster worked! WASHINGTON - The Senate on Friday rejected attempts to reauthorize several provisions of the USA Patriot Act as infringing too much on Americans' privacy, dealing a major defeat to President Bush and Republican leaders. In a crucial vote Friday morning as Congress raced toward adjournment, the bill's Senate supporters were not able to garner the 60 votes necessary to overcome a threatened filibuster by Sens. Russ Feingold, D-Wis., and Larry Craig, R-Idaho, and their allies. The final vote was 52-47 Bush, Attorney General Alberto Gonzales and GOP congressional leaders had lobbied fiercely to make most of the expiring Patriot Act provisions permanent, and add new safeguards and expiration dates to the two most controversial parts: roving wiretaps and secret warrants for books, records and other items from businesses, hospitals and organizations such as libraries. http://www.breitbart.com/news/2005/12/16/D8EHFJI82.html ~Ulrika~ _____________________
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Ghoti Nyak
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12-16-2005 11:48
I was just looking for this thread to post that same thing.
YAY for some sanity in this country!-Ghoti _____________________
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Chance Abattoir
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12-16-2005 11:55
I was just looking for this thread to post that same thing. YAY for some sanity in this country!-Ghoti Maybe it was a mistake  _____________________
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Ulrika Zugzwang
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12-16-2005 12:04
I was just looking for this thread to post that same thing. YAY for some sanity in this country!~Ulrika~ _____________________
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Chance Abattoir
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12-16-2005 12:15
It's weird. It's like someone flipped a switch and everyone's sanity returned. I'm not complaining though. ~Ulrika~ Doubtful. When have you ever known our government to act without ulterior motives? Most likely they all realized that their individual private scams and scandals would be open for attack from their rivals if the bloody thing passed. _____________________
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Lecktor Hannibal
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12-16-2005 12:21
Guess I'll have to remove those hidden cameras at Teddy's Drive in Liqour store now.
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Joy Honey
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12-16-2005 12:24
Doubtful. When have you ever known our government to act without ulterior motives? Most likely they all realized that their individual private scams and scandals would be open for attack from their rivals if the bloody thing passed. I'm thinking it's a to divert our attention from this: Bush Won't Discuss Report of NSA Spying http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20051216/ap_on_go_pr_wh/bush_nsa_16;_ylt=AuuFwBddwSvLO2EFlQQ2BBrB4FkB;_ylu=X3oDMTBiMW04NW9mBHNlYwMlJVRPUCUl Bush said in an interview that "we do not discuss ongoing intelligence operations to protect the country. And the reason why is that there's an enemy that lurks, that would like to know exactly what we're trying to do to stop them. "I will make this point," Bush said. "That whatever I do to protect the American people — and I have an obligation to do so — that we will uphold the law, and decisions made are made understanding we have an obligation to protect the civil liberties of the American people." The president spoke in an interview to be aired Friday evening on "The Newshour with Jim Lehrer." Bush played down the importance of the eavesdropping story. "It's not the main story of the day," Bush told Lehrer. "The main story of the day is the Iraqi elections" for parliament which took place on Thursday. _____________________
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Lecktor Hannibal
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12-16-2005 12:24
Looks like there may be a basis for that impeachment wish though
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Chance Abattoir
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12-16-2005 12:31
Your dog picture makes me feel a strange, newfound kindness toward you.
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Chip Midnight
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12-16-2005 13:05
Looks like there may be a basis for that impeachment wish though Maybe he'll get a cell next to DeLay and Frist _____________________
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Lecktor Hannibal
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12-16-2005 13:10
Maybe he'll get a cell next to DeLay and Frist Damn you harshed my buzz  _____________________
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Aliasi Stonebender
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12-16-2005 13:34
Doubtful. When have you ever known our government to act without ulterior motives? Most likely they all realized that their individual private scams and scandals would be open for attack from their rivals if the bloody thing passed. Part of it, though there are mostly-honest and mostly-moral politicians in the Capitol... the system wouldn't work in even the half-assed way it does if not. At the same time, even the honest ones have things to hide... _____________________
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