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Shouldn't New Orleans be neopolitan?

Lecktor Hannibal
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01-17-2006 10:12
I mean really this made me nauseous!
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01-17-2006 10:16
Welp, that is the most ridiculous thing I have read in quite a while...


On a side note, it's raining pretty bad here today. I guess God is mad at us...
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01-17-2006 10:19
I sense a Celebrity Deathmatch coming. Robertson versus Nagin, hurling God's wrath at each other. The seasoned pro versus the up and coming amateur. Have to give odds to Robertson on the match though.
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01-17-2006 10:20
What I found intriguing was that Nagin has conversations with God AND MLK.
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01-17-2006 10:20
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Welp, that is the most ridiculous thing I have read in quite a while...


On a side note, it's raining pretty bad here today. I guess God is mad at us...



I don't think that Nagin has ever had an unexpressed thought. He should really space out the time that he thinks about something and when he speaks out loud about it.
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01-17-2006 10:23
Still, I think Hillary might take the cake for foot in mouth for the last few days (the plantation analogy), excepting both sides of the Alito confirmation of course.
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01-17-2006 10:25
From: Lecktor Hannibal
I mean really this made me nauseous!
I am not an American and probably have no right to comment but this guy's comments make me sad.

In this day and age to be talking about "black" cities and "white" cities is just stupid IMO. Seems to me there will always be racism as long as people still feel they belong to seperate communities like that. How can you be upset when people do something to you as a racialy defined group, when you seperate yourself off as a racially defined group in the first place?

Rather than Neopolitan, I think we should all be coffee flavoured. :)

Maybe racism will only be over when we are all so racially and culturally mixed as to be some generic "coffee coloured" mixed breed creatures that look the same in Africa or China as they do in England or the US.
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01-17-2006 10:25
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"It's time for us to come together. It's time for us to rebuild New Orleans _ the one that should be a chocolate New Orleans," the mayor said. "This city will be a majority African American city. It's the way God wants it to be. You can't have New Orleans no other way. It wouldn't be New Orleans."



Wonder how people would've reacted if Jeb Bush had said they'd rebuild Florida Communities into a Vanilla-Florida?
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01-17-2006 10:45
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In this day and age to be talking about "black" cities and "white" cities is just stupid IMO. Seems to me there will always be racism as long as people still feel they belong to seperate communities like that. How can you be upset when people do something to you as a racialy defined group, when you seperate yourself off as a racially defined group in the first place?


This is definitely a sad aspect of human nature. Victims of racism almost always end up being racist themselves. This is of course only my personal opinion but it seems that in the US blacks are actually far more racist than whites now. Look how many black only magazines, tv channels, awards shows, and on and on there are. I think when people start to behave in that manner they lose any right to complain about racism. They're doing more to perpetuate it than combat it.
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01-17-2006 10:52
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Originally Posted by Chip Midnight
This is definitely a sad aspect of human nature. Victims of racism almost always end up being racist themselves. This is of course only my personal opinion but it seems that in the US blacks are actually far more racist than whites now. Look how many black only magazines, tv channels, awards shows, and on and on there are. I think when people start to behave in that manner they lose any right to complain about racism. They're doing more to perpetuate it than combat it.


For once, Chip, I firmly agree with you. ;)
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01-17-2006 10:57
ditto :(
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01-17-2006 11:51
Did someone say Chocolate City?




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01-17-2006 12:01
Echoing Bill and Lecktor... for once I agree with Chip whole-heartedly.

On the original topic, that man is completely off his rocker.
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01-17-2006 12:51
From: Chip Midnight
This is definitely a sad aspect of human nature. Victims of racism almost always end up being racist themselves. This is of course only my personal opinion but it seems that in the US blacks are actually far more racist than whites now. Look how many black only magazines, tv channels, awards shows, and on and on there are. I think when people start to behave in that manner they lose any right to complain about racism. They're doing more to perpetuate it than combat it.


Yes, I totally agree. Can you imagine the hoopla that would be stirred if there were a channel called White Entertainment Television WET, along the lines of BET? But that would be wrong now wouldn't it :rolleyes:
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01-17-2006 13:00
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Echoing Bill and Lecktor... for once I agree with Chip whole-heartedly.


hehe, sorry. Didn't mean to frighten anyone :D
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01-17-2006 13:05
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a channel called White Entertainment Television WET




Don't they already call it the Playboy Channel? :P

The mayor is insane. I wonder what he was hit in the head with during Katrina?
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01-17-2006 13:15
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Don't they already call it the Playboy Channel? :P

The mayor is insane. I wonder what he was hit in the head with during Katrina?


He was obviously hit in the head with Gods shoe or something, I bet he wears steel toed Doc Martens...
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01-17-2006 13:25
From: Chip Midnight
This is definitely a sad aspect of human nature. Victims of racism almost always end up being racist themselves. This is of course only my personal opinion but it seems that in the US blacks are actually far more racist than whites now. Look how many black only magazines, tv channels, awards shows, and on and on there are. I think when people start to behave in that manner they lose any right to complain about racism. They're doing more to perpetuate it than combat it.


Although predominantly African-American mags, tv, etc are very narrow in scope, the point for most of the US black population is that the majority of the cities ARE white, the majority of the tv IS white, etc.

While there is a degree of reverse racism, it is also extremely simple and a gross over generalization to say the "US blacks are actually far more racist than whites now".
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01-17-2006 13:29
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Although predominantly African-American mags, tv, etc are very narrow in scope, the point for most of the US black population is that the majority of the cities ARE white, the majority of the tv IS white, etc.

While there is a degree of reverse racism, it is also extremely simple and a gross over generalization to say the "US blacks are actually far more racist than whites now".


That's why I went out of my way to say it was my personal opinion. I disagree with your first paragraph since it's not a reasonable justification for what amounts to racism. I once heard Spike Lee say that he didn't think it was possible for black's to be racist because they're a minority. I think it's one of the most idiotic points of view I've ever heard expressed. I've got nothing against having magazines and other media slanted to appeal to specific cultural tastes, but basing it soley on the color of skin is racism, no matter how you slice it. It's simply wrong headed.
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01-17-2006 14:13
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01-17-2006 14:15
From: Chip Midnight
This is definitely a sad aspect of human nature. Victims of racism almost always end up being racist themselves. This is of course only my personal opinion but it seems that in the US blacks are actually far more racist than whites now. Look how many black only magazines, tv channels, awards shows, and on and on there are. I think when people start to behave in that manner they lose any right to complain about racism. They're doing more to perpetuate it than combat it.


Easy, tiger.

Do you mean the African-American people living in gated communities and the ex-burbs? Do you not think that a proliferation of "black-only" media indicates a deep culture rift--that there are two cultures, one for each skin tone, as well as two economies? Nagin's comments are in line with Kayne West's "George Bush hates black people." I do not support what he said, but I am deeply concerned about the reason he said it.

I respectfully disagree.
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01-17-2006 14:32
As a Floridian, I believe that all the hurricanes we've had here are God's punishment for fucking up the 2000 election :rolleyes:

Whaddaya think?
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01-17-2006 14:34
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As a Floridian, I believe that all the hurricanes we've had here are God's punishment for fucking up the 2000 election :rolleyes:

Whaddaya think?

You'd think with all that wind the chaff would have fell off already. ;)
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01-17-2006 14:38
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Easy, tiger.

Do you mean the African-American people living in gated communities and the ex-burbs? Do you not think that a proliferation of "black-only" media indicates a deep culture rift--that there are two cultures, one for each skin tone, as well as two economies?


I think that was true at one time but doesn't hold very much water today. As was mentioned earlier there's no White Entertainment Television. There's no Whitey Magazine, or the White Movie Awards, and so on, and if anyone tried to create such a thing the outrage would be deafening. There are just as many things in popular culture that have their origins in black culture that are embraced by people of all colors that there's no longer a justification for things like BET. I don't mean the content. I mean the labeling. If it wouldn't be culturally acceptable for white people to do or say, it's not acceptable for blacks either... that is if people actually want a colorblind world. You (the figurative you) can't decry racism out of one side of your mouth while promoting it out the other.
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http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/10482634/
http://www.blackamericatoday.com/article.cfm?ArticleID=598
http://www.americanrhetoric.com/speeches/billcosbypoundcakespeech.htm
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