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Ricky Zamboni

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07-03-2006 08:32

I bet the kid had a chemistry set at home too...

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07-03-2006 08:47

Eh.

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Zomg!!!!

07-03-2006 08:53

From: Orpheum Apogee

Jesus - everyone involved in this story needs to get laid, yiffed, doinked... however the hell you want to say it. The collective ass-clenching of America will be our eventual downfall.

A FRIEND JUST PLAYED THE SONG "SCHOOL'S OUT FOR SUMMER" FOR ME!!!!! ZOMG!!!! WE HAVE TO STOP THIS!!!! CHILDREN WILL BE BLOWING UP SCHOOLS!!!!!

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07-03-2006 08:59

No child left behind...

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07-03-2006 09:08

*sigh* This gets so old.
Parents who are never home with their kids think the government is responsible for raising them. This is the most protected generation of kids in history, and they won't be able to do a thing for themselves as adults. They will expect the government to keep them totally safe all the time. What a let down they are going to get.

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on the flip side

07-03-2006 09:32

Does this mean that teachers could have icons about unliked students? How would you feel about having a professor who drew pictures of students under the wing of free speech?

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07-03-2006 10:00

From: Janus Grelling

Does this mean that teachers could have icons about unliked students? How would you feel about having a professor who drew pictures of students under the wing of free speech?

As long as the teacher doesn't bring a gun to school and start capping mofos for missing assignments, i'm okay with it.

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07-03-2006 10:04

From: someone

You never had a late night out with your mates when you were a kid, and said someone should burn down the school...

Perhaps, and in 98% of cases like this, the teacher would have been safe. But these are new times, and it's no longer a funny joke.

When I was in elementary school, my friend was suspended for bringing a "weapon" to school. It was actually much less dangerous than a pair of scissors, and it was more of a show-and-tell item. But it was misconstrued by a teacher, which I can't really fault the teacher for. So, my friend took his suspension dutifully. I think it was just a few days.

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07-03-2006 11:41

From: Allana Dion

Kids do stupid things. Most likely (and having not been there, can only guess) the kid had a rough time in class one day, went home and made this icon and then just never really thought about it much.

Given that it would feel like a personal message, many people would have reacted the way the teacher and the school officials did. Was it a bit of an over reaction? Maybe yes, but an easily predicted one.

Where the parents went wrong (just my opinion) was in siding with junior. There are times when you defend your children and times when you should not. Had this been my kid, I would have taken that moment to teach him the world doesn't revolve around him and guess what other people have feelings.

"Look junior, you might have thought this was funny but you hurt someone's feelings, you scared him, you made all this big hoopla. Now you get to fix it. It doesn't matter if you think the other person's feelings are valid or if you think they're over reacting. This is where you suck it up and put them first. You will go to the teacher, apologize, explain you never meant it, reassure him that you would NEVER do him any harm and say it as many times as he needs to hear it to feel comfortable with you again. Then you shut up and take your punishment like a man whether you agree with it or not."

Eggzactly!

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07-03-2006 11:45

From: Garoad Kuroda

It's because the Secret Service does that!

(j/k)

And actually, the FBI does keep a close eye on such cases. Not sure what action they take.

Bear in mind, too, with the school thing - and why the parents should have upheld it - NOT taking precautions like this puts one's own children in danger. Imagine if the kid shot up the school later, and it became known that they had known about this image and done nothing.

I don't think whether or not the kid is a loner or one who appears well-socialized should really factor into it much, if any.

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07-03-2006 12:20

From: Cristiano Midnight

A 15 year old high school student was suspended for a semester for having an IM buddy icon on his HOME computer that had a gun pointing at a head with blood coming out that said "Kill Mr. VanderMolden" on it, the name of his English teacher.

I am also surprised that the police department did not do anything.

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At, not with.

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07-03-2006 16:08

From: Chance Abattoir

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At, not with.

Ah, what a mature response. Even with your important use of bold and impressive ability to copy and paste, it was no longer just on his home computer - it was transmitted to other students.

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Student suspended over buddy icon - court upholds it
Ricky Zamboni Private citizen Join date: 4 Jun 2004 Posts: 1,080	07-03-2006 08:32 I bet the kid had a chemistry set at home too...
Lo Jacobs Awesome Possum Join date: 28 May 2004 Posts: 2,734	07-03-2006 08:47 Eh. _____________________ http://churchofluxe.com/Luster
Sapat Engawa Registered User Join date: 22 Jun 2006 Posts: 25	Zomg!!!! 07-03-2006 08:53 From: Orpheum Apogee Jesus - everyone involved in this story needs to get laid, yiffed, doinked... however the hell you want to say it. The collective ass-clenching of America will be our eventual downfall. A FRIEND JUST PLAYED THE SONG "SCHOOL'S OUT FOR SUMMER" FOR ME!!!!! ZOMG!!!! WE HAVE TO STOP THIS!!!! CHILDREN WILL BE BLOWING UP SCHOOLS!!!!! _____________________ When the going gets tough, the tough specialize.
Joy Honey Not just another dumass Join date: 17 Jun 2005 Posts: 3,751	07-03-2006 08:59 No child left behind... _____________________ Reality continues to ruin my life. - Calvin You have delighted us long enough. - Jane Austen Sometimes I need what only you can provide: your absence. - Ashleigh Brilliant
Shadow Garden Just horsin' around Join date: 17 Jul 2005 Posts: 226	07-03-2006 09:08 sigh This gets so old. Parents who are never home with their kids think the government is responsible for raising them. This is the most protected generation of kids in history, and they won't be able to do a thing for themselves as adults. They will expect the government to keep them totally safe all the time. What a let down they are going to get. _____________________ "Ah, ignorance and stupidity all in the same package ... How efficient of you!" - Londo Molari, Babylon V.
Janus Grelling Registered User Join date: 15 Jun 2006 Posts: 1	on the flip side 07-03-2006 09:32 Does this mean that teachers could have icons about unliked students? How would you feel about having a professor who drew pictures of students under the wing of free speech?
Orpheum Apogee Registered User Join date: 30 May 2006 Posts: 17	07-03-2006 10:00 From: Janus Grelling Does this mean that teachers could have icons about unliked students? How would you feel about having a professor who drew pictures of students under the wing of free speech? As long as the teacher doesn't bring a gun to school and start capping mofos for missing assignments, i'm okay with it.
Travis Bjornson Registered User Join date: 25 Sep 2005 Posts: 188	07-03-2006 10:04 From: someone You never had a late night out with your mates when you were a kid, and said someone should burn down the school... Perhaps, and in 98% of cases like this, the teacher would have been safe. But these are new times, and it's no longer a funny joke. When I was in elementary school, my friend was suspended for bringing a "weapon" to school. It was actually much less dangerous than a pair of scissors, and it was more of a show-and-tell item. But it was misconstrued by a teacher, which I can't really fault the teacher for. So, my friend took his suspension dutifully. I think it was just a few days.
Cocoanut Cookie Registered User Join date: 26 Jan 2006 Posts: 1,741	07-03-2006 11:41 From: Allana Dion Kids do stupid things. Most likely (and having not been there, can only guess) the kid had a rough time in class one day, went home and made this icon and then just never really thought about it much. Given that it would feel like a personal message, many people would have reacted the way the teacher and the school officials did. Was it a bit of an over reaction? Maybe yes, but an easily predicted one. Where the parents went wrong (just my opinion) was in siding with junior. There are times when you defend your children and times when you should not. Had this been my kid, I would have taken that moment to teach him the world doesn't revolve around him and guess what other people have feelings. "Look junior, you might have thought this was funny but you hurt someone's feelings, you scared him, you made all this big hoopla. Now you get to fix it. It doesn't matter if you think the other person's feelings are valid or if you think they're over reacting. This is where you suck it up and put them first. You will go to the teacher, apologize, explain you never meant it, reassure him that you would NEVER do him any harm and say it as many times as he needs to hear it to feel comfortable with you again. Then you shut up and take your punishment like a man whether you agree with it or not." Eggzactly! coco _____________________
Cocoanut Cookie Registered User Join date: 26 Jan 2006 Posts: 1,741	07-03-2006 11:45 From: Garoad Kuroda It's because the Secret Service does that! (j/k) And actually, the FBI does keep a close eye on such cases. Not sure what action they take. Bear in mind, too, with the school thing - and why the parents should have upheld it - NOT taking precautions like this puts one's own children in danger. Imagine if the kid shot up the school later, and it became known that they had known about this image and done nothing. I don't think whether or not the kid is a loner or one who appears well-socialized should really factor into it much, if any. coco _____________________
Chance Abattoir Future Rockin' Resmod Join date: 3 Apr 2004 Posts: 3,898	07-03-2006 12:20 From: Cristiano Midnight A 15 year old high school student was suspended for a semester for having an IM buddy icon on his HOME computer that had a gun pointing at a head with blood coming out that said "Kill Mr. VanderMolden" on it, the name of his English teacher. I am also surprised that the police department did not do anything. LAUGHS and LAUGHS and LAUGHS and LAUGHS and LAUGHS and LAUGHS and LAUGHS and LAUGHS and LAUGHS and LAUGHS and LAUGHS and LAUGHS and LAUGHS and LAUGHS and LAUGHS and LAUGHS and LAUGHS and LAUGHS and LAUGHS and LAUGHS and LAUGHS and LAUGHS and LAUGHS and LAUGHS and LAUGHS and LAUGHS and LAUGHS and LAUGHS and LAUGHS and LAUGHS and LAUGHS and LAUGHS and LAUGHS and LAUGHS and LAUGHS and LAUGHS and LAUGHS and LAUGHS and LAUGHS and LAUGHS and LAUGHS and LAUGHS and LAUGHS and LAUGHS and LAUGHS and LAUGHS and LAUGHS and LAUGHS and LAUGHS and LAUGHS and LAUGHS and LAUGHS and LAUGHS and LAUGHS and LAUGHS and LAUGHS and LAUGHS and LAUGHS and LAUGHS and LAUGHS and LAUGHS and LAUGHS and LAUGHS and LAUGHS and LAUGHS and LAUGHS and LAUGHS and LAUGHS and LAUGHS and LAUGHS and LAUGHS and LAUGHS and LAUGHS and LAUGHS and LAUGHS and LAUGHS and LAUGHS and LAUGHS and LAUGHS and LAUGHS and LAUGHS and LAUGHS and LAUGHS and LAUGHS and LAUGHS and LAUGHS and LAUGHS and LAUGHS and LAUGHS and LAUGHS and LAUGHS and LAUGHS and LAUGHS and LAUGHS and LAUGHS and LAUGHS and LAUGHS and LAUGHS and LAUGHS. At, not with. _____________________ "The mob requires regular doses of scandal, paranoia and dilemma to alleviate the boredom of a meaningless existence." -Insane Ramblings, Anton LaVey
Cristiano Midnight Evil Snapshot Baron Join date: 17 May 2003 Posts: 8,616	07-03-2006 16:08 From: Chance Abattoir LAUGHS and LAUGHS and LAUGHS and LAUGHS and LAUGHS and LAUGHS and LAUGHS and LAUGHS and LAUGHS and LAUGHS and LAUGHS and LAUGHS and LAUGHS and LAUGHS and LAUGHS and LAUGHS and LAUGHS and LAUGHS and LAUGHS and LAUGHS and LAUGHS and LAUGHS and LAUGHS and LAUGHS and LAUGHS and LAUGHS and LAUGHS and LAUGHS and LAUGHS and LAUGHS and LAUGHS and LAUGHS and LAUGHS and LAUGHS and LAUGHS and LAUGHS and LAUGHS and LAUGHS and LAUGHS and LAUGHS and LAUGHS and LAUGHS and LAUGHS and LAUGHS and LAUGHS and LAUGHS and LAUGHS and LAUGHS and LAUGHS and LAUGHS and LAUGHS and LAUGHS and LAUGHS and LAUGHS and LAUGHS and LAUGHS and LAUGHS and LAUGHS and LAUGHS and LAUGHS and LAUGHS and LAUGHS and LAUGHS and LAUGHS and LAUGHS and LAUGHS and LAUGHS and LAUGHS and LAUGHS and LAUGHS and LAUGHS and LAUGHS and LAUGHS and LAUGHS and LAUGHS and LAUGHS and LAUGHS and LAUGHS and LAUGHS and LAUGHS and LAUGHS and LAUGHS and LAUGHS and LAUGHS and LAUGHS and LAUGHS and LAUGHS and LAUGHS and LAUGHS and LAUGHS and LAUGHS and LAUGHS and LAUGHS and LAUGHS and LAUGHS and LAUGHS and LAUGHS and LAUGHS and LAUGHS. At, not with. Ah, what a mature response. Even with your important use of bold and impressive ability to copy and paste, it was no longer just on his home computer - it was transmitted to other students. _____________________ Cristiano ANOmations - huge selection of high quality, low priced animations all $100L or less. ~SLUniverse.com~ SL's oldest and largest community site, featuring Snapzilla image sharing, forums, and much more.

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