Close Encounter?

ok - 2 things.

1 - im pretty sure that there are aliens out there.

2 - im also pretty sure that if we get invaded (by aliens) within the next 10 years that it will be the result of a staged black ops clandestine program designed to unite the world under false pretences.

Apparently I gave the impression that I'd abandoned this thread, when really it fell off the page and I went off to have a nice weekend I cannot let this misleading stuff go unanswered, so this one's for you Maerl:


I pointed out early in our discussion that it didn't sound like you knew as much about string theory as you thought. Now I'm beginning to wonder if you know as much about science as you think.

No theory EVER is ironclad and irrefutably correct. Science is a method of finding answers which are always provisional pending new evidence and advancements, so from the get-go your argument is full of holes, Maerl.

Two: You seem to have a one-dimensional view of String Theory as if we either have to prove the whole thing to be 100% infallible or it's all bunkum. That's not how this works. Parts of string theory have already been tested and shown to work. The entire meta-theory tries to assemble these parts into a consistent whole that would finally explain gravity in a comprehensive way and tie it in with the three other fundamental forces of the universe (where the misleading term "theory of everything" comes from). Already, we can design elaborate algorithms using string theory which are every bit as accurate as those derived from the Standard Model, as far as they go -- that's a pretty promising test, which puts your assertions regarding "religion" and "unprovability" into serious perspective and found wanting.


How can string theory fail if it hasn't even had a chance to be tested properly yet? How can you justify throwing out millions of manhours of research and promising development work by mathematicians and physicists before they even get a chance to finish CERN's LHC proton collider? Did it ever occur to you that parts of this theory are so obtuse and intangible that we simply don't have the equipment - YET - to test the theory completely? So that means that we should just chuck it all because "oh well, it won't work anyway"? What if Einstein had had that attitude?

I'm sad that the US Congress cancelled the US Supercollider project in 1993 after $2 billion was already spent. It set physics back years, and I'm not sure our current involvement in the CERN project compensates for that. Who knows, had we finished the project we may already have discovered amazing new things that either support string theory or lead us down even more promising theoretical avenues. As it is, we simply have to wait


Absolutely, your quoted premise is correct. Where you're falling off the boat is in your assumption that string theory can never be proven. We don't know that. Theoretical physicists with brains ten times sharper than yours and mine combined are convinced there's something to this, and their work so far has shown them nothing discouraging.


Let me guess. You hate change? You fear the unknown? You... have no imagination? Or could it simply be that you don't know as much about string theory as you think you do?

hahaha funny.. read the whole thing.

Wow, interesting debate.

My feelings:
First we need to look at how far we have advanced technologically in the past 1000 (1006) years....eep...lets see....dark ages, not much technology...pretty dreary.
Does that sum it up quickly enough?

Now imagine where we'll be in another 1000 years (given we don't destroy ourselves)

To say that another race couldn't be more advanced than us is...(please excuse my language..its not meant as an insult)..well, just plain ignorant.

As many people have already pointed out. The universe has millions upon millions of posibilities for life.

Jumping back to Earth. I'm sure all of you are well aware of the comparison of a human lifespan to the lifespan of the Earth...If the lifespan of the Earth were ;laid out as a calendar, we're just a blip on the that...a mere split second sometime in laet December.

Perhaps if mammals weren't stifled by giant reptiles for 100's of millions of years, things may be different around here. Perhaps if the climate wasn't so warm for all of those millions of years, mammals might have evolved faster.

Going back to someones post about dropping a grain of sand in the desert and not being able to find it.
hmmm.....I'll first use some clues (similar to what alien species would do)....I would follow the footprints walking through the sand....that would get me close.....I would then listen for the radio signals.

Similar to what we are doing now by locating solar systems that could support life...I'm sure alien species could do the same......and I would think that they might be just a *little * more advanced than us.

just my thoughts...I'd write more but I gotta get back to work.


btw, if anyone needs me to explain the bogus claims of the lunar landing being fake I'll be more than happy to explain the photographs in question...it seems the makers of that website have no clue as to what they're talking about.

interesting points.

also worth noting is that someone who studies UFO-ology nowadays would have been called a Demonologist a couple of hundred years ago. it's all the same stuff.