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Dianne Mechanique
Back from the Dead
Join date: 28 Mar 2005
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10-13-2005 14:58
Gomer's history of the Universe volume I, book 1: "Hot damn, I gotta turtle head stickin out! Where to pull over... where to pull over... That blue orb looks nice!" And thus was the first bacteria introduced to earth. End of Book 1. _____________________
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Chance Abattoir
Future Rockin' Resmod
Join date: 3 Apr 2004
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10-13-2005 15:03
ewww! The book doesn't lie. _____________________
"The mob requires regular doses of scandal, paranoia and dilemma to alleviate the boredom of a meaningless existence."
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Cartridge Partridge
Noodly appendage
Join date: 13 Sep 2004
Posts: 999
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10-13-2005 15:04
F*ck 'em and their law! All I ever needed to know, I learned from The Jilted Generation (screw that Toxic Avenger guy). Hey! I missed that! How could it happen?  _____________________
aku cinta kamu sepenuh hati, rinaz sayangku.
My short term memory died about 10 years ago. It's the last thing i remember. Did i tell you already? |
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Memory Harker
Girl Anachronism
Join date: 17 Jun 2005
Posts: 393
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10-13-2005 15:08
PS - Sorry if I was rude to you at the Nburg dance the other day, you're even scarier in person!  Awwws, you weren't rude at all ... In fact, I was distracted by all the goodies Katt had laid out on the table near the dance floor: there was, you may recall, PIE. Memory Harker <--- Creature from the Off-White Lagoon PS: I'm so glad you responded "Ewwww" to Chance's post; I was about to say exactly the same thing! PPS: Wait. I'm scary? Oh my. |
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Chance Abattoir
Future Rockin' Resmod
Join date: 3 Apr 2004
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10-13-2005 15:10
PS: I'm so glad you responded "Ewwww" to Chance's post; I was about to say exactly the same thing! So cream pie is whatever but relieving yourself on planet Earth is "Ewwww?" I'm confused by your lack of moray eels. _____________________
"The mob requires regular doses of scandal, paranoia and dilemma to alleviate the boredom of a meaningless existence."
-Insane Ramblings, Anton LaVey |
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Kevn Klein
God is Love!
Join date: 5 Nov 2004
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10-13-2005 16:23
If you give me infinity to do it, then I could do it. It would take a very very very long time, but it could be done The part you must remember is that there is no record of how much time came before the big bang. Therefore, prior to the forming of the universe (by whichever method you prescribe to), there was an infinite amount of time. And it only had to happen once. It had to be done during the time the Earth was in existance and containing all the ingredients needed, all in the same place at the same moment in time. So the time frame was very limited. Not unlimited by any means. |
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Kevn Klein
God is Love!
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10-13-2005 16:26
I'm curious, how do you know the total number of chances that the basic blocks of life had to roll the dice? ..... The article I linked to in the first post defines how one would come to the total number of chances. |
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Kevn Klein
God is Love!
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10-13-2005 16:33
If you are going to fake quotes I didn't say, at least spell my name correctly lol |
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Kevn Klein
God is Love!
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10-13-2005 16:46
A huge flaw is that the protein in question is not the product of a test tube of a variety of amino acids of both left and right chirality. A living system only contains amino acids of left chirality. We are talking about a non-living, non-system. Not a living system. There was no system. There was mud! In a test tube, under the control of intellegent scientists, one would assume it would be easier to replicate the beginning of life. |
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Cartridge Partridge
Noodly appendage
Join date: 13 Sep 2004
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10-13-2005 16:50
Hey! That's a bit too much (i am supposed to lose weight...) _____________________
aku cinta kamu sepenuh hati, rinaz sayangku.
My short term memory died about 10 years ago. It's the last thing i remember. Did i tell you already? |
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Ulrika Zugzwang
Magnanimous in Victory
Join date: 10 Jun 2004
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10-13-2005 17:08
It had to be done during the time the Earth as in existance and containing all the ingrediants needed, all in the same place at the same moment in time. So the time frame was very limited. Not unlimited by any means. Further, why do we even engage in debates like this in the first place? I enjoy a good philosophical debate like anyone but this kind of pseudoscientific tail chasing is just painful. We spend all our time trying to explain, teach, and correct the science behind a topic in an attempt to negotiate a common language on which to construct a debate, yet to no avail. There's no progress, only an endless litany of pseudoscience. Yuk. ~Ulrika~ _____________________
Chik-chik-chika-ahh
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Ulrika Zugzwang
Magnanimous in Victory
Join date: 10 Jun 2004
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10-13-2005 17:09
*Sigh*
I need to relax. Maybe some pecan pie would help. ~Ulrika~ _____________________
Chik-chik-chika-ahh
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Kevn Klein
God is Love!
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10-13-2005 17:16
My English teacher worried about those things too.
maybe that's how you debate, pointing out errors in spelling and grammar... if so, you win hands down, I hated English. It's telling that my opinion so upset you that you were compelled to write that rude comment. Relax, if what I say changes minds, your personal attacks won't affect anything. |
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Ananda Sandgrain
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Join date: 16 May 2003
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10-13-2005 17:17
*snap snap*
Not until you provide proof that pecan pie really exists and is not some collective fantasy. _____________________
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Chip Midnight
ate my baby!
Join date: 1 May 2003
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10-13-2005 17:44
Coundn't resist.  Before he got his hair cut, Joe Matt did look like Chip. *note to self: find out who this Joe Matt person is*  _____________________
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Chance Abattoir
Future Rockin' Resmod
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10-13-2005 17:56
It had to be done during the time the Earth was in existance and containing all the ingredients needed, all in the same place at the same moment in time. So the time frame was very limited. Not unlimited by any means. Assuming that life was created here and not deposited here (which is just as likely as it coming by chance, and more likely than a magic man with glowing sandals and a beard made of wool coming to this rock to engineer microorganisms instead of, say, sex slaves). _____________________
"The mob requires regular doses of scandal, paranoia and dilemma to alleviate the boredom of a meaningless existence."
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Kevn Klein
God is Love!
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10-13-2005 18:01
Assuming that life was created here and not deposited here (which is just as likely as it coming by chance, and more likely than a magic man with glowing sandals and a beard made of wool coming to this rock to engineer microorganisms instead of, say, sex slaves). What are the chances living cells arrived on a meteor? It would have to be a tough little dude to handle the heat and crash. Edit: not to mention the vacuum of space. |
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Ulrika Zugzwang
Magnanimous in Victory
Join date: 10 Jun 2004
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10-13-2005 18:32
It's telling that my opinion so upset you that you were compelled to write that rude comment. Relax, if what I say changes minds, your personal attacks won't affect anything. The quasiscientific approach to justifying the existence of an imaginary God is a pointless exercise, as religion is intrinsically unscientific. If I were you, I would switch to philosophical arguments. You'd get a lot further. ~Ulrika~ _____________________
Chik-chik-chika-ahh
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Juro Kothari
Like a dog on a bone
Join date: 4 Sep 2003
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10-13-2005 18:36
What are the chances living cells arrived on a meteor? It would have to be a tough little dude to handle the heat and crash. Edit: not to mention the vacuum of space. Better than the chances life was created by some mythical creature. It's not all that impossible that life, of some sort, could have survived buried in space rock and able to survive the entry and impact. Read this article _____________________
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Lordfly Digeridoo
Prim Orchestrator
Join date: 21 Jul 2003
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10-13-2005 18:43
Instead of constantly saying how evolution is flawed, how about you explain to me, exactly, how God created the universe.
Oh, sorry, not God, but "Intelligent Maker". Give me the stats, the applications, the evidence. All I ever see ID advocates saying is how evolution is incorrect; rarely, if ever, do they show any direct evidence to support their side. I suspect there is none, as a result. So please, humor me. How DID God create the universe? Hint: The Bible is not a primary source. LF _____________________
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Desmond Shang
Guvnah of Caledon
Join date: 14 Mar 2005
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10-13-2005 19:25
It had to be done during the time the Earth was in existance and containing all the ingredients needed, all in the same place at the same moment in time. So the time frame was very limited. Not unlimited by any means. What I believe the atheists are referring to is this: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anthropic_principle Simply stated: we notice we are here, because... we can't be alive and asking questions where conditions weren't right. So the improbability of *this* earth's actual condition is not weighted against only itself, but against all the other possible earths, other possible space-times &c. And should improbable questioning creatures arise after a billion-billion 'universes' (universi? Latin? Greek?) arise in some trans-universal stew... what should these creatures think? Perhaps they would spend their days sitting there stunned by the unlikelihood of their existence? Of course the anthropic principle has its detractors, insofar as one can always invoke it. Personally I'm finding it quite fun to participate in a serious discussion wherein the term 'panspermia' is mentioned without giggles. I suppose I'm just in a juvenile mood today. |
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Memory Harker
Girl Anachronism
Join date: 17 Jun 2005
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Here ya go, Miss Z!
10-13-2005 19:54
*Sigh* I need to relax. Maybe some pecan pie would help. ~Ulrika~ Hot from the oven for you: http://www.karosyrup.com/images/recipes/pecan_pie%20copy_lr.jpg |
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Memory Harker
Girl Anachronism
Join date: 17 Jun 2005
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No sir!
10-13-2005 20:01
*note to self: find out who this Joe Matt person is* You are much cuter (and less stingy, I'll bet) than that Joe Matt! http://www.gravyzine.com/IMAGES/Joe%20Matt001A.jpg  |
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Memory Harker
Girl Anachronism
Join date: 17 Jun 2005
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Um ...
10-13-2005 20:03
Personally I'm finding it quite fun to participate in a serious discussion wherein the term 'panspermia' is mentioned without giggles. http://www.obsse.com/yowza.gif *giggle* |
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Memory Harker
Girl Anachronism
Join date: 17 Jun 2005
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kk
10-13-2005 20:07
So please, humor me. http://www.missrodeosd.com/scrapbk/Belle%20Expo/Marie%20with%20the%20Belle%20Expo%20Clown.JPG Memory Harker <--- reported for taking quotation out of context! |
