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Billybob Goodliffe

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Join date: 22 Dec 2005

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06-20-2006 05:07

From: Komuso Tokugawa

a crazed gun nut in da good old USA or....whatever....

HEY!!!! I resemble that remark

Usagi Musashi

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Join date: 24 Oct 2004

Posts: 6,083

06-20-2006 06:20

From: Komuso Tokugawa

Well, having lived here once, moved away, and moved back again I can say there are pros and cons to living anywhere...and I've also lived in Oslo - supposedly THE most expensive city on Earth still. Some things [good casual clothes, quality low priced lunch] are cheaper here now, and of higher quality, than you can buy in Australia - which was never the case previously. I hear London is now very expensive, more so than Tokyo for some things - the Tube for example, which rarely can even make a schedule on time.

Some things still suck badly - rent, land costs, alcohol ridiculously expensive [good reason to cut back to being a moderate healthy drinker anyway]. the Live house scene sucks incredibly badly, Japanese TV and the food eating panels of c-grade celebs ["Oishi desu!!!" --AAAARGHHHH!!!]

but hey, there are a lot of good things about the place too....up to each person to find them for themselves

You could die from boredom in Australia or get whacked by a crazed gun nut in da good old USA or....whatever....

I just call it Planet Tokyo. [like most countries the capital city is not a clear and accurate representation of the entire country and way of life]

Well hun is my home, pro cons is not the issue here. Only the facts a stated in my past post.................Other then that its all fluff...........I just stated the facts here. If you don`t understand or agree fine but your looking at it from the otehr side not the japanese side.

Chie Salome

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Join date: 19 May 2005

Posts: 221

06-20-2006 08:01

From: Usagi Musashi

If you don`t understand or agree fine but your looking at it from the otehr side not the japanese side.

...As if you represent the Japanese.

To the OP, I'd recommend not paying attention to Usagi. I know Warda and Komuso in-world and I can assure you their opinion is fairly balanced and based on their first-hand experiences, not the "real facts" Usagi is hallucinating. I also recommend getting in touch with Arashiko Kobayashi and Percy Plunkett. They speak amazingly good Japanese, almost as good as any one of us.

I have dozens of co-workers and friends from America and UK living in Tokyo, but most of them don't read/write Japanese because they have no need to. We communicate in English at work so all they NEED to learn is day-to-day conversational phrases required when shopping and dining out. They are hired for their own expertise, mostly IT-related, not the ability to speak Japanese.

Now, even if you studied hard and got as fluent as native Japanese speakers, I don't think Japanese companies will hire you just as they hire another Japanese college graduate. You may find it racist but that's how it goes :/ I think it's better to gain some marketable skill other than the Japanese language, if you want to secure a stable source of income enough to live in Tokyo, where prices are utterly ridiculous.

Usagi Musashi

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Join date: 24 Oct 2004

Posts: 6,083

06-20-2006 08:14

From: Chie Salome

...As if you represent the Japanese.

No No No..................Don`t take this issue to this level......

Like all other issues they get out of hand fast on this forum.........
So Never mind.

AU got the info he needed thats what important case closed.........

Dawan Au

Registered User

Join date: 6 May 2006

Posts: 18

06-20-2006 16:33

From: Chie Salome

...As if you represent the Japanese.

To the OP, I'd recommend not paying attention to Usagi. I know Warda and Komuso in-world and I can assure you their opinion is fairly balanced and based on their first-hand experiences, not the "real facts" Usagi is hallucinating. I also recommend getting in touch with Arashiko Kobayashi and Percy Plunkett. They speak amazingly good Japanese, almost as good as any one of us.

I have dozens of co-workers and friends from America and UK living in Tokyo, but most of them don't read/write Japanese because they have no need to. We communicate in English at work so all they NEED to learn is day-to-day conversational phrases required when shopping and dining out. They are hired for their own expertise, mostly IT-related, not the ability to speak Japanese.

Now, even if you studied hard and got as fluent as native Japanese speakers, I don't think Japanese companies will hire you just as they hire another Japanese college graduate. You may find it racist but that's how it goes :/ I think it's better to gain some marketable skill other than the Japanese language, if you want to secure a stable source of income enough to live in Tokyo, where prices are utterly ridiculous.

I am going to college for digital media, and graphics design. I always wanted to work in video games. BTW does any one who lives in Japan know if Japanese game company's hire foreigners?

Tikki Kerensky

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Join date: 12 Aug 2004

Posts: 687

06-20-2006 17:42

From: Dawan Au

I am going to college for digital media, and graphics design. I always wanted to work in video games. BTW does any one who lives in Japan know if Japanese game company's hire foreigners?

I'd certainly hope so now, at least for proofreaders on the English translations. I haven't seen much in the way of engrish in videogames these days.

A winner is you!
All your base are belong to us.
Thank for play.

etc...

Though this may be handled by the NA based branches of the various companies now.

_____________________

Pudding takes away the pain, the pain of not having pudding.

Komuso Tokugawa

Registered User

Join date: 3 Mar 2005

Posts: 93

06-20-2006 17:48

From: Dawan Au

I am going to college for digital media, and graphics design. I always wanted to work in video games. BTW does any one who lives in Japan know if Japanese game company's hire foreigners?

I would not value your chances without extensive prior experience. Sorry to prick that bubble.
The nature of the art development pipeline is also changing...even more so in 4 years time when you have graduated.
You would probably increase whatever slim chance in the long term you had [by networking and gaining connections] by studying at a schools supported by one of the major publishers who essentially use them as recruiting centres for the best and brightest.

http://www.gamasutra.com/features/20060518/sheffield_01.shtml has some insight into on one Japanese company that works in that area.

http://greggman.com/ is a good resource from an experienced gaijin games programmer in Japan.

That said...dream on [beats not dreaming]...work hard [no way around that one]...who knows where you will end up [sychronicity rules, and you can't dance when you are six feet under so go for it anyway].

Good luck!

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Billybob Goodliffe NINJA WIZARDS! Join date: 22 Dec 2005 Posts: 4,036	06-20-2006 05:07 From: Komuso Tokugawa a crazed gun nut in da good old USA or....whatever.... HEY!!!! I resemble that remark
Usagi Musashi UM ™® Join date: 24 Oct 2004 Posts: 6,083	06-20-2006 06:20 From: Komuso Tokugawa Well, having lived here once, moved away, and moved back again I can say there are pros and cons to living anywhere...and I've also lived in Oslo - supposedly THE most expensive city on Earth still. Some things [good casual clothes, quality low priced lunch] are cheaper here now, and of higher quality, than you can buy in Australia - which was never the case previously. I hear London is now very expensive, more so than Tokyo for some things - the Tube for example, which rarely can even make a schedule on time. Some things still suck badly - rent, land costs, alcohol ridiculously expensive [good reason to cut back to being a moderate healthy drinker anyway]. the Live house scene sucks incredibly badly, Japanese TV and the food eating panels of c-grade celebs ["Oishi desu!!!" --AAAARGHHHH!!!] but hey, there are a lot of good things about the place too....up to each person to find them for themselves You could die from boredom in Australia or get whacked by a crazed gun nut in da good old USA or....whatever.... I just call it Planet Tokyo. [like most countries the capital city is not a clear and accurate representation of the entire country and way of life] Well hun is my home, pro cons is not the issue here. Only the facts a stated in my past post.................Other then that its all fluff...........I just stated the facts here. If you don`t understand or agree fine but your looking at it from the otehr side not the japanese side.
Chie Salome ~( * w * )~ Join date: 19 May 2005 Posts: 221	06-20-2006 08:01 From: Usagi Musashi If you don`t understand or agree fine but your looking at it from the otehr side not the japanese side. ...As if you represent the Japanese. To the OP, I'd recommend not paying attention to Usagi. I know Warda and Komuso in-world and I can assure you their opinion is fairly balanced and based on their first-hand experiences, not the "real facts" Usagi is hallucinating. I also recommend getting in touch with Arashiko Kobayashi and Percy Plunkett. They speak amazingly good Japanese, almost as good as any one of us. I have dozens of co-workers and friends from America and UK living in Tokyo, but most of them don't read/write Japanese because they have no need to. We communicate in English at work so all they NEED to learn is day-to-day conversational phrases required when shopping and dining out. They are hired for their own expertise, mostly IT-related, not the ability to speak Japanese. Now, even if you studied hard and got as fluent as native Japanese speakers, I don't think Japanese companies will hire you just as they hire another Japanese college graduate. You may find it racist but that's how it goes :/ I think it's better to gain some marketable skill other than the Japanese language, if you want to secure a stable source of income enough to live in Tokyo, where prices are utterly ridiculous.
Usagi Musashi UM ™® Join date: 24 Oct 2004 Posts: 6,083	06-20-2006 08:14 From: Chie Salome ...As if you represent the Japanese. No No No..................Don`t take this issue to this level...... Like all other issues they get out of hand fast on this forum......... So Never mind. AU got the info he needed thats what important case closed.........
Dawan Au Registered User Join date: 6 May 2006 Posts: 18	06-20-2006 16:33 From: Chie Salome ...As if you represent the Japanese. To the OP, I'd recommend not paying attention to Usagi. I know Warda and Komuso in-world and I can assure you their opinion is fairly balanced and based on their first-hand experiences, not the "real facts" Usagi is hallucinating. I also recommend getting in touch with Arashiko Kobayashi and Percy Plunkett. They speak amazingly good Japanese, almost as good as any one of us. I have dozens of co-workers and friends from America and UK living in Tokyo, but most of them don't read/write Japanese because they have no need to. We communicate in English at work so all they NEED to learn is day-to-day conversational phrases required when shopping and dining out. They are hired for their own expertise, mostly IT-related, not the ability to speak Japanese. Now, even if you studied hard and got as fluent as native Japanese speakers, I don't think Japanese companies will hire you just as they hire another Japanese college graduate. You may find it racist but that's how it goes :/ I think it's better to gain some marketable skill other than the Japanese language, if you want to secure a stable source of income enough to live in Tokyo, where prices are utterly ridiculous. I am going to college for digital media, and graphics design. I always wanted to work in video games. BTW does any one who lives in Japan know if Japanese game company's hire foreigners?
Tikki Kerensky Insane critter Join date: 12 Aug 2004 Posts: 687	06-20-2006 17:42 From: Dawan Au I am going to college for digital media, and graphics design. I always wanted to work in video games. BTW does any one who lives in Japan know if Japanese game company's hire foreigners? I'd certainly hope so now, at least for proofreaders on the English translations. I haven't seen much in the way of engrish in videogames these days. A winner is you! All your base are belong to us. Thank for play. etc... Though this may be handled by the NA based branches of the various companies now. _____________________ Pudding takes away the pain, the pain of not having pudding.
Komuso Tokugawa Registered User Join date: 3 Mar 2005 Posts: 93	06-20-2006 17:48 From: Dawan Au I am going to college for digital media, and graphics design. I always wanted to work in video games. BTW does any one who lives in Japan know if Japanese game company's hire foreigners? I would not value your chances without extensive prior experience. Sorry to prick that bubble. The nature of the art development pipeline is also changing...even more so in 4 years time when you have graduated. You would probably increase whatever slim chance in the long term you had [by networking and gaining connections] by studying at a schools supported by one of the major publishers who essentially use them as recruiting centres for the best and brightest. http://www.gamasutra.com/features/20060518/sheffield_01.shtml has some insight into on one Japanese company that works in that area. http://greggman.com/ is a good resource from an experienced gaijin games programmer in Japan. That said...dream on [beats not dreaming]...work hard [no way around that one]...who knows where you will end up [sychronicity rules, and you can't dance when you are six feet under so go for it anyway]. Good luck!

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