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Gun Control!

Kevn Klein
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01-04-2006 04:53
Hold steady, aim carefully, and squeeze the trigger slowly. That's how to control a gun. :)
Billy Grace
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01-04-2006 06:27
But but but... taking guns away from law abiding citizens will surely keep them out of the hands of criminals... um... errr... nevermind. :o
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Ben Bacon
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01-04-2006 06:39
Guns don't kill people.




It's those little bullet thingies that do it.
Billy Grace
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01-04-2006 06:54
That's the ticket... keep guns legal... outlaw bullets!!!

Brilliant... hehe
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Kevn Klein
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01-04-2006 07:09
Yeah, those pesky little bullets. I know their motive. They are out for World domination.
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01-04-2006 07:38
From: Ben Bacon
Guns don't kill people.




It's those little bullet thingies that do it.

Not if you hit someone over the head with them :)
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01-04-2006 07:42
From: Billy Grace
That's the ticket... keep guns legal... outlaw bullets!!!

Brilliant... hehe


That's absurd!

Just make them really, really expensive so only the rich people (who are good and just) can afford them. :p
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01-04-2006 07:44
Gun control: a harsh voice, a rolled-up newspaper, and rubbing its nose in it if it does its business in the wrong place.
Lucifer Baphomet
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01-04-2006 08:53
If bullets cost $100 each, people would think more than twice before "popping a cap" in some guys "ass"
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01-04-2006 09:00
From: Lucifer Baphomet
If bullets cost $100 each, people would think more than twice before "popping a cap" in some guys "ass"

Seriously this would change nothing. Think about it. If you had a gun and good reason to use it... would you stop and think... is it worth $100??? No. If I had a legitimate reason to use it I'd unload the gun at $1,000 a bullet.
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Chance Abattoir
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01-04-2006 09:23
From: Billy Grace
Seriously this would change nothing. Think about it. If you had a gun and good reason to use it... would you stop and think... is it worth $100??? No. If I had a legitimate reason to use it I'd unload the gun at $1,000 a bullet.


In this hypothetical world of $1,000 bullets, I'd be the first to cap you in the ass to take your gun so I could make a minimum profit of $5,000 (assuming you didn't get any shots off).
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Lucifer Baphomet
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01-04-2006 10:01
Okay, $2000 dollars a bullet, and a 26 page reason for bullet purchase form, in triplicate for each bullet, and the spent cartridges have to be returned, with another 26 page form in triplicate explaining the use of the bullet
failure to complete paperwork correctly incurring a $5000 fine

Would people think twice then?
Kevn Klein
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01-04-2006 11:23
From: Lucifer Baphomet
Okay, $2000 dollars a bullet, and a 26 page reason for bullet purchase form, in triplicate for each bullet, and the spent cartridges have to be returned, with another 26 page form in triplicate explaining the use of the bullet
failure to complete paperwork correctly incurring a $5000 fine

Would people think twice then?



Let's see, if one wants to kill a person and bullets are too expensive, I suppose that person would decide not to kill that other person. They wouldn't have any other way to kill. We could end murder completely.

oops, I just remembered, what about knives, baseball bats, steel pipes, hands and feet...
the list goes on and on. :eek:
Lucifer Baphomet
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01-04-2006 11:30
I guess i should wave a sarcasm flag
lol
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01-04-2006 11:35
From: Lucifer Baphomet
I guess i should wave a sarcasm flag
lol


No, it will have to be a parade. Trust me.
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01-04-2006 14:29
From: Chance Abattoir
In this hypothetical world of $1,000 bullets, I'd be the first to cap you in the ass to take your gun so I could make a minimum profit of $5,000 (assuming you didn't get any shots off).


I dunno what was worse, the fact I thought of this too or the fact someone else beat me to it....


Heck, why stop there. Look for those folks with extended capacity round mags like for a 9mm, 30 round magazine. $30,000 assuming no shots were fired, 100% profit if you used an alternative weapon too. Think bigger.....

Sticking to the 9mm caliber, ban mags are capacity of 10 while the average pre-ban was 13 whereas new technology has a flush fit 15 rounder (thank goodnes for the ban sunsetting). Nice tidy profit margins indeed.

Lovely reasons for murder to increase to the contrary. Even if the production and sale of ammo was stopped, there is enough floating around in the world's markets,back-woods reserves and the black-market that this act alone would drive the price of ammo to ungodly numbers. Just like alcohol during the prohibition, ammo can be produced at home as long as you have viable casings ( I am sure that even those could be home-made as well as they are usually just brass) Primers could be home made as well as they are just an impact explosive. Books are abound on the production of home made propellant. The bullet itself is just lead, easy to get from hospitals (X-Ray protection gear) , fishing anchors and wheel weights. Instead of gangs rising up to meet the demands of booze, we would have ammo gangs meeting the demand of illegal ammo...
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Ordinal Malaprop
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01-04-2006 14:32
It would be a good reason for marksmanship to increase. None of this uncouth slapdash blazing away when you have thousand-dollar bullets.

Of course, practicing is going to be expensive.
Weedy Herbst
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01-04-2006 14:51
NRA people claim, guns don't kill people, people kill people.

If this is true, guns don't kill kids, kids kill kids.
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01-04-2006 15:00
From: Weedy Herbst
NRA people claim, guns don't kill people, people kill people.

If this is true, guns don't kill kids, kids kill kids.


Bombs don't destroy bridges, bridges destroy bridges.

And thus the remake of Bridge on the River Kwai is rewritten.......
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01-04-2006 15:05
From: Kevn Klein
Let's see, if one wants to kill a person and bullets are too expensive, I suppose that person would decide not to kill that other person. They wouldn't have any other way to kill. We could end murder completely.

oops, I just remembered, what about knives, baseball bats, steel pipes, hands and feet...
the list goes on and on. :eek:

Yeah, all those drive-by knifings and baseball battings! :eek:
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Flavian Molinari
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01-04-2006 15:18
I know the $2k bullet thing is a joke. If it were the case then there would be black market ammo that only criminals have access to.

My friend just returned from Kenya. Where the method of choice for robbing people is with a machete. If you travel there be sure to carry a small amount of money incase you're robbed. If you have no money then you get hacked up, if you have a lot of money you lose it. The trick is to have just enough to save your self and not lose too much. Some robbers use attack dogs along with the machetes. Isn't gun control great? No more shootings. :)
Kevn Klein
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01-04-2006 16:15
From: Nolan Nash
Yeah, all those drive-by knifings and baseball battings! :eek:


It might not be a drive-by, but you are no less dead after being killed with any of those items.

For long distance killing there is always bombs, poison, arrows etc.

And of course, lets not forget just using the car, call it a drive-over instead of a drive-by.


On a side note: We had two young people go nuts since Thanksgiving here locally. One killed his parents, brother and grandmother with a steel pipe. One by one, he lured them into other rooms, so no one could hear, and beat them to death.

The other killed his mom by strangulation, then later killed his grandfather by standing on his neck.

Then the other day we read of two women fighting, a knife kills one.

A homeless man was knifed to death last week.

But with all the guns, and people carrying them around, we have no gun deaths.
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01-04-2006 16:22
From: Kevn Klein
But with all the guns, and people carrying them around, we have no gun deaths.
This is what's known as "anecdotal evidence". It is invalid for use in scientific analysis. Instead one should look at nation-wide statistics, which in this case would provide a quite a contrast (pipe killings per year versus gun killings per year) between reality and your anecdote.

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01-04-2006 16:23
From: Kevn Klein
But with all the guns, and people carrying them around, we have no gun deaths.


From: Archie Bunker
"All the airlines have to do to end sky-jacking is arm the passengers."


:rolleyes:
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01-04-2006 16:46
From: Kevn Klein
It might not be a drive-by, but you are no less dead after being killed with any of those items.

For long distance killing there is always bombs, poison, arrows etc.

And of course, lets not forget just using the car, call it a drive-over instead of a drive-by.


On a side note: We had two young people go nuts since Thanksgiving here locally. One killed his parents, brother and grandmother with a steel pipe. One by one, he lured them into other rooms, so no one could hear, and beat them to death.

The other killed his mom by strangulation, then later killed his grandfather by standing on his neck.

Then the other day we read of two women fighting, a knife kills one.

A homeless man was knifed to death last week.

But with all the guns, and people carrying them around, we have no gun deaths.


Kevn, I don't think you want me to start posting actual statistics from your state do you?

By the way, I am not for "gun control" in the sense that you folks like to project on people who don't think that we need to be a gun culture to be safe. As with most things I think about and have opinions about, it's not a black and white issue for me. You should try it sometime, try seeing shades of grey.

The simple fact remains, it's much easier to kill from a distance with a bullet, than it is to bash someone's head in with a pipe. One might even say it's cowardly.
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