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Are science and religion incompatible?

Kevn Klein
God is Love!
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12-08-2005 08:46
From: Ulrika Zugzwang
God is dead.


That would indicate God was alive at one point. :)
Zuzu Fassbinder
Little Miss No Tomorrow
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12-08-2005 09:08
From: Kevn Klein
If in fact there is a God, then finding truth would require finding God. Logical?


Lets test it:
If in fact there is a <arbitary object>, then finding the truth would require finding <arbitrary object>.

Lets set <arbitrary object> to be "pink dildo"

If in fact there is a pink dildo, then finding the truth would require finding pink dildo.

For this to be true, pink dildo would have to be contained within the set of "truth".

I would be willing to accept that "truth" is a set which encompasses all things that exist and as such I am willing to accept your statement as logcial.
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Kevn Klein
God is Love!
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12-08-2005 09:11
From: Zuzu Fassbinder
Lets test it:
If in fact there is a <arbitrary object>, then finding the truth would require finding <arbitrary object>.

Lets set <arbitrary object> to be "pink dildo"

If in fact there is a pink dildo, then finding the truth would require finding pink dildo.

For this to be true, pink dildo would have to be contained within the set of "truth".

I would be willing to accept that "truth" is a set which encompasses all things that exist and as such I am willing to accept your statement as logical.


The problem with your analysis is a pink dildo isn't the creator of all that is. If it was, then finding the truth would require finding and understanding it.
Zuzu Fassbinder
Little Miss No Tomorrow
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12-08-2005 09:28
From: Kevn Klein
The problem with your analysis is a pink dildo isn't the creator of all that is. If it was, then finding the truth would require finding and understanding it.


Ah, I see. So the original statement requires more input to be logical.

If in fact there is <arbitrary object> and <arbitrary object> is the creator all of that is, then finding the truth would require finding <arbitrary object>.

Lets try the new version:
<arbitrary object>="Love"

If in fact there is Love and Love is the creator of all that is, then finding the truth would require finding Love.

Yes, that is much more Logical.

feel free to test some other options as well, here are some suggestions

<arbitrary object> = {"Understanding", "Chunky Monkey Ice Cream", "Anal Sex", "Conspiracy", "Beer", "Emergent Behavior", "Jimmy Hoffa"}
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Kevn Klein
God is Love!
Join date: 5 Nov 2004
Posts: 3,422
12-08-2005 09:40
From: Zuzu Fassbinder
Ah, I see. So the original statement requires more input to be logical.

If in fact there is <arbitrary object> and <arbitrary object> is the creator all of that is, then finding the truth would require finding <arbitrary object>.

Lets try the new version:
<arbitrary object>="Love"

If in fact there is Love and Love is the creator of all that is, then finding the truth would require finding Love.

Yes, that is much more Logical.

feel free to test some other options as well, here are some suggestions

<arbitrary object> = {"Understanding", "Chunky Monkey Ice Cream", "Anal Sex", "Conspiracy", "Beer", "Emergent Behavior", "Jimmy Hoffa"}


The Bible says God is Love, so at least with your first example you aren't being ridiculous.

Under my name is "Dios es Amor" which means "God is Love" in Spanish.

However, I find your suggestion the creator of all that exists is any of your ridiculous objects/actions/dead people you named to be an attempt to troll/bait me into attacking you personally. It didn't work. :)

Have a nice day.
Zuzu Fassbinder
Little Miss No Tomorrow
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Posts: 2,048
12-08-2005 09:43
From: Kevn Klein

However, I find your suggestion the creator of all that exists is any of your ridiculous objects/actions/dead people you named to be an attempt to troll/bait me into attacking you personally. It didn't work. :)


Nope, just demonstrating other statements that are equally logical.
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