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Some Good Things George W Bush Has Done Domestically

Jamie Bergman
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10-31-2005 13:04
I think people tend to forget W has done a lot domestically to help out this nation.

For one thing, he cut taxes a LOT. I know a lot of people (including my parents) who are quite stoked about this - especially the elimination of the death tax (inheretance tax) - and really think GWB is doing a great job. I'm also digging it because it means that when the time comes, I'll have to give the government less of my parent's hard earned assets.

Because people will get to keep more of their income, they will work harder, making this country more productive.

Also, he is trying to reform social security so that everybody leeching off of it doesn't crash the nation. He's tried to privatize the system but kinda met with a lot of resistance from people who don't understand that our government cannot continue to pay people not to work. Its YOUR retirement, so you should have to save for it. My two cents, at least.

Finally, he has reformed medicare and medicaid so that you can't just run to the emergency room everytime you cut your finger. Medicaid is especially bad because those people don't pay any insurance premiums..medicare is slightly less worse because people have paid into it through FICA over the years... but they still are taking out more than they put in.

W is moving the country in the right direction.. people have to realize that nothing is free. If you want something in life, you have to work for it. There is no free lunch. Stop eating mine.

Just my opinion.

Please post more stuff that W has done that is good. We need a W support group here in SL.
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10-31-2005 13:19
I have been a SL member for quite a while but have never felt quite as compelled to post as I feel now.

Despite what Jesse Jackson and Minister Fahraakan (possible misspelling for one of the most racist political/religious figures in the US) would like you to believe, the government did not cause the levy's to break in order to displace many people living in New Orleans....yet GWB took blame for the response of the government. He also made a point to replace the head of FEMA (the TRUE person responsible for the delayed response).

These are acts of a leader, one that should be recgonized for his great leadership ability.

There have been two disasters that GWB has presided over..and he has stepped up to the plate each time.

I will always remember GWB talking to the rescue workers in NYC after 9/11
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I will always remember GWB hugging the young African American girl after Katrina.

God Bless America!
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10-31-2005 13:22
From: Jamie Bergman
There is no free lunch. Stop eating mine.



How about you fascists stop shitting all over mine then.
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10-31-2005 13:28
From: Jamie Bergman
For one thing, he cut taxes a LOT. I know a lot of people (including my parents) who are quite stoked about this - especially the elimination of the death tax (inheretance tax) - and really think GWB is doing a great job. I'm also digging it because it means that when the time comes, I'll have to give the government less of my parent's hard earned assets.


and what happens to the programs that were previously funded by these taxes? and let's not forget *who* the tax cuts are helping. they sure haven't helped me. but thank god the wealthy couple in the neighborhood gets even more money to spend. phew, i'll sleep better tonight knowing that.

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Also, he is trying to reform social security so that everybody leeching off of it doesn't crash the nation. He's tried to privatize the system but kinda met with a lot of resistance from people who don't understand that our government cannot continue to pay people not to work. Its YOUR retirement, so you should have to save for it. My two cents, at least.


newsflash - people are already having to save for their retirement. it is pretty much impossible to live off of social security alone.

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Finally, he has reformed medicare and medicaid so that you can't just run to the emergency room everytime you cut your finger.


i really can't even comprehend this logic. if someone needs medical care, they should be able to get it. i suppose you would rather have people die because of lack of medical treatment.

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If you want something in life, you have to work for it. There is no free lunch. Stop eating mine.


i work hard for everything i have. btw, your lunch makes me sick.
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10-31-2005 13:32
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For one thing, he cut taxes a LOT. I know a lot of people (including my parents) who are quite stoked about this - especially the elimination of the death tax (inheretance tax) - and really think GWB is doing a great job. I'm also digging it because it means that when the time comes, I'll have to give the government less of my parent's hard earned assets.

The estate tax only affects money of $1.5million or $3million for a couple. Money left to a spouse is not eligible for estate tax. This issue only benefits a miniscule portion of the population. I am sure Paris Hilton thanks you.

While eliinating the "death tax" Bush has spent so much money that he has created a "birth tax" on every child born as they will have to work to pay off his debts. The "birth tax" will affect all children not just the chidren of the rich.

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Also, he is trying to reform social security so that everybody leeching off of it doesn't crash the nation. He's tried to privatize the system but kinda met with a lot of resistance from people who don't understand that our government cannot continue to pay people not to work. Its YOUR retirement, so you should have to save for it. My two cents, at least.

Bush failed to reform Social Secrity. Furthermore he failed to even produce a plan to reform Social Security.

When Clinton left office there was a Social Security surplus, which Bush promptly spent.

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medicare is slightly less worse because people have paid into it through FICA over the years... but they still are taking out more than they put in.

Those selfish old people. I wish they would just die already.

The one thing I find odd about your post is that you want to remove an estate tax because the children of the rich deserve all the free money they can get because of their parents, while at the same time saying that no one deserves a free lunch. That makes no sense to me.

Either you think everyone should earn their own money or they shouldn't. It takes no skill to be born to wealthy parents.
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10-31-2005 13:32
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How about you fascists stop shitting all over mine then.


Kendra, this is the second time you've implied that I'm a neo-conservative. In fact, I'm just a middle of the road American who wants justice. Please stop implying that I'm an extremist.
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10-31-2005 13:33
From: Paige Diamond
He also made a point to replace the head of FEMA (the TRUE person responsible for the delayed response).

These are acts of a leader, one that should be recgonized for his great leadership ability.


You mean the incredibly unqualified crony he appointed who should never have held the position in the first place? Yeah, that's some great leadership for ya. :rolleyes:
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10-31-2005 13:34
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Kendra, this is the second time you've implied that I'm a neo-conservative. In fact, I'm just a middle of the road American who wants justice. Please stop implying that I'm an extremist.


haha Jamie, you are so NOT middle of the road.
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10-31-2005 13:34
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and what happens to the programs that were previously funded by these taxes? and let's not forget *who* the tax cuts are helping. they sure haven't helped me. but thank god the wealthy couple in the neighborhood gets even more money to spend. phew, i'll sleep better tonight knowing that.



I don't get all this talk about people thinking the Government should HELP them. The government is not there to work for you. If you want something, you need to work for it. Really, what the tax cuts are doing is giving money BACK to the people who earned it.

Nothing more, nothing less.

We all need to stop relying on the government to help us and help ourselves.
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10-31-2005 13:36
Why is there so much conern for the "free lunch" comment? Do people have repressed memories about bad things that happened in grade school?

No one wants their lunch taken from them...people are hungry, they want to eat, and no one will stop them.
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10-31-2005 13:37
From: Neehai Zapata

While eliinating the "death tax" Bush has spent so much money that he has created a "birth tax" on every child born as they will have to work to pay off his debts. The "birth tax" will affect all children not just the chidren of the rich.




Where did you get that from?! I find that impossible to believe. That money was not "spent" it was re-circulated IN the economy instead of sitting in the government's vaults.
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10-31-2005 13:37
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If you want something, you need to work for it.

Damn straight! People should work hard and inherit their money tax free!

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10-31-2005 13:39
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Where did you get that from?! I find that impossible to believe. That money was not "spent" it was re-circulated IN the economy instead of sitting in the government's vaults.


He means that this administration has so squandered our coffers and put the nation so far in debt that our children will have to pay for it, tax cuts or not, and likely their children's children. All Bush is doing with his tax cuts is putting a disproportionate share of the burden on the middle class.
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10-31-2005 13:40
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You mean the incredibly unqualified crony he appointed who should never have held the position in the first place? Yeah, that's some great leadership for ya. :rolleyes:


Yes! This is exactly what I am talking about!

Sometimes, as a leader, you errantly appoint someone to a position. The difference between an average leader and a great leader? Rectifying the situation.

GWB did just that...he stepped up, rectified the situation, and made changes for the better. A fine job.

Thank you for pointing that out...I should have mentioned it in my original post.
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10-31-2005 13:41
From: Jamie Bergman
I don't get all this talk about people thinking the Government should HELP them. The government is not there to work for you. If you want something, you need to work for it. Really, what the tax cuts are doing is giving money BACK to the people who earned it.

Nothing more, nothing less.

We all need to stop relying on the government to help us and help ourselves.


i pay taxes, which the government spends. therefore, the government should indeed be there to work for me. and again, tax cuts are giving $ back to people that are already wealthy. i have not benefited one bit from them. and neither have most people i know.
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10-31-2005 13:42
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Yes! This is exactly what I am talking about!

Sometimes, as a leader, you errantly appoint someone to a position. The difference between an average leader and a great leader? Rectifying the situation.

GWB did just that...he stepped up, rectified the situation, and made changes for the better. A fine job.

Thank you for pointing that out...I should have mentioned it in my original post.

Well, except for the fact that Michael Brown still works at FEMA. So yes, other than doing nothing, he really stepped up to the place.
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10-31-2005 13:43
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Well, except for the fact that Michael Brown still works at FEMA. So yes, other than doing nothing, he really stepped up to the place.


and let's not forget how GWB commended brown for "doing a heck of a job". what a great leader. *rolls eyes*
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10-31-2005 13:45
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Damn straight! People should work hard and inherit their money tax free!

LOL


Exactly!
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10-31-2005 13:48
How has Bush's domestic policy benefited you personally? My income tax doesn't seem to have dropped any. He's sold all our currency to the Chinese, our own is getting devalued. His wars have taken the country from near-balance on the federal budget to deeper debts than ever before. His idea of a "solution" to the skyrocketing prescription costs is to subsidize the drug companies.

Getting us out of this mess is probably going to require some usurious inflation for a while.
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10-31-2005 13:49
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i pay taxes, which the government spends. therefore, the government should indeed be there to work for me. and again, tax cuts are giving $ back to people that are already wealthy. i have not benefited one bit from them. and neither have most people i know.


The government exists to provide national defense, uniform standardizations, and various other tasks vital for the day-to-day operation of a modern society. Its not there to be a social safety net.

What the President is doing is cutting some of that fat that has been allowed to build and make us a stronger, more nimble enterprise.
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10-31-2005 13:50
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and let's not forget how GWB commended brown for "doing a heck of a job". what a great leader. *rolls eyes*


Are you familiar with politics, business, or a hybrid of the two?

Has anyone ever been "let go" from your place of business?

Apparently not.

Leaders and politicians (most successful ones anyway) rarely just hang someone out to dry in the manner you are implying. GWB knows Mike Brown did a crap job...so he have him a b.s. "Thank you" and moved on.

Get out of dreamland. This is just how things are done in these arenas.
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10-31-2005 13:51
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What the President is doing is cutting some of that fat that has been allowed to build and make us a stronger, more nimble enterprise.

I've got a bridge in Alaska I'd like to sell you.
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10-31-2005 13:52
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and let's not forget how GWB commended brown for "doing a heck of a job". what a great leader. *rolls eyes*


In the President's defense... that was BEFORE he fired him for mis-management.
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10-31-2005 13:56
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In the President's defense... that was BEFORE he fired him for mis-management.

He wasn't fired.
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10-31-2005 13:58
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The one thing I find odd about your post is that you want to remove an estate tax because the children of the rich deserve all the free money they can get because of their parents, while at the same time saying that no one deserves a free lunch. That makes no sense to me.

Either you think everyone should earn their own money or they shouldn't. It takes no skill to be born to wealthy parents.


No, what I'm saying is that you should EARN your own money... but after you earn it, its yours to do what you wish with it.... whether that be spend it or give it to your children.
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