Roe v Wade...For Men

I thought it was dip overload

Haha, no he didn't like that one

*passes Joy the dip*

Oh, no thank you - I have plenty of dip in my life

LOL! Especially if you hang around these forums long enough

Spot the rapist?
Rape has got nothing to do with 'normal' heterosex.

by Sara Hinchliffe


Reproduced from LM, issue 120, May 1999


The view that all men are potential rapists, and that sex and rape are closely linked, is no longer confined to the kind of radical feminists typified by Andrea Dworkin. Wild-eyed feminists such as Dworkin ('romance is rape embellished with meaningful looks') have long argued that all heterosex is rape - and until quite recently they have been dismissed as anti-men, or simply weird.


But now the argument that rape is commonplace, and that there is little real distinction between rape and what many men see as sex, is being recycled by respectable feminists and taken on board by policymakers. Rape is increasingly assumed not to be a rare sort of violent assault, but an aspect of male sexual behaviour. The argument put forward by feminist theorists Liz Kelly and Jill Radford - that the law on rape should be reformed to take account of women's experience of sexual violence as 'normal' - has now been mainstreamed.


In Women, Violence and Male Power, Hester, Kelly and Radford argue that the distinction between consensual sex and rape is problematic. 'One of the major problems in proving rape in court is that much so-called consensual heterosex is coercive if not forced.…The law suggests that clear distinctions can be drawn between violence and non-violence and thereby between abusive and "normal" men.' The debate about rape law reform has been heavily influenced by feminist contentions that there is an epidemic of rape, where only a tiny minority of cases is reported in the first place.


http://www.spiked-online.com/Printable/0000000054D0.htm

Feminism is not a single ideology

Kiamat, Kevn, you are both obvious trolls. G'bye.

This actually proves MY point, darlin'. Try reading the article before you post to it.

Another good indicator would be to find me a percentage of feminists who engage in heterosexual sex. Surely they don't view it as rape.

Now Sally, you know feminism = bad and patriarchy = good... simplistic world views = good; knowing the world is much more complex = bad

See, I figured out how to do the black and white thing

I guess I don't hate men enough to be a feminist.



(Joking, please don't hurt me)

I don't understand what you-- OH POO! I broke a nail ::niff::::

There, there, dear. I have some superglue. Maybe that will help. *hands Kendra tissue*

Oops, my bad, I'll just go back to the kitchen where I belong.

Oh :niff:: thankyou, I know I'm such a silly girl, You know -- My husband is always telling me "Kendra, it's a good thing you're pretty or you'ld be homeless!" Isn't he funny?




::ob::::

You don't get it, do you? tisk....


Women don't even know they are victims, they think they like it. It's because they were indoctrinated by a patriarchal society.
/sarcasm off

I know what Dworkin said, darlin'.

I'm telling you it's a fringe concept and not reflective of the majority of Feminists.

Feminism is a diverse collection of social theories, political movements, and moral philosophies, largely motivated by or concerning the experiences of women, especially in terms of their social, political, and economic situation. As a social movement, feminism largely focuses on limiting or eradicating gender inequality and promoting women's rights, interests, and issues in society. It also incorporates concern about the effect of gender roles on men, and encouragement for men to change and transcend traditional male roles and norms of masculinity.

Within academia, some feminists focus on documenting gender inequalities that oppress women and on changes in the social position and representation of women. Others argue that gender, and even sex, are social constructs, and research the construction of gender and sexuality, and develop alternate models for studying social relations.



Oops sorry, did I say that out loud again? Somebody better beat me to show me my place hmm?

you gals and your silly objective facts

i'm giving you all a spankin'

::giggle:::

Well we obviously deserve it!

Sweetie, it's okay. I don't care what most feminists believe, in fact, I don't think most feminists even know what it means to be a feminist.

True feminism is about equal treatment under the law. Things such as equal pay for equal work was what feminism stood for. That I support completely.

The new-age feminism isn't true feminism at all, it's about abortion and gay rights. Real feminists cringe at these topics rather than relish in them.

That equality is kinda what I'm talking about Sally..

If a man is to be held responsible with no chance of getting out of child support, why (excluding medical or rape etc) should a woman be able to get out of being a mother?

If the man can't get out of it the woman shouldn't either.

Men, get snipped or kepe it tucked, women keep em closed or get tied.

EQUALITY.

My guess would be that you know less about modern feminist theory than I know about neuro-surgery.

I don't even know where to begin with that....

If you don't want to pay child support, don't have sex, or go to court. Some of you men keep treating abortion like it's something for convenience. It's not.

When you get a uterus, get back to us.

Getting snipped is an outpatient surgery. Getting them tied ain't...

You mean person,

How dare you expect fair treatment? Men have had the advantage for a long time. It's only fair men get so suffer at the hand of a woman for a few centuries. /sarcasm off